Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by ENT

I call those diagrams bullshit, a total fabrication.

of course, it's from LD

Originally Posted by ENT

I call those diagrams bullshit, a total fabrication.

That's because you're retarded

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by ENT

"Powered up" and "the plane banked" or "was banking" are not the average citizen's words chappy, they are from flyers' vocabulary.

Those "witnesses" were coached.

Similarly with those witnesses that claimed that a great explosion rocked the ground, rocked their cars, rocked their buildings when the seismograph stations couldn't even pick up the shock waves from such a blast!

Now we know just how stupid and deluded you are, ENT. The expression "the plane banked" is something people in high school know and use. They get used on TV all the time, same as "powered up".

And the shock wave probably traveled horizontally, as that is how the plane hit.
Stranger things happen in suburban fires, as firemen can tell you.

Originally Posted by ENT

recoverable and analyzable tissue would not have yielded much information in 2001, only after 2010 was replication of DNA possible so that full sequences could be determined from minute samples. In 2001, that science was not in place.

This is nonsense too. PCR, or polymerase chain reaction, was developed back in the eighties.

Yup, every school boy knows what "banked" and "powered up" means, uhuh, common usage, yup, even most women would use the words in normal conversation,.....bollix! Used on TV all the time? Rubbish!

Sort of like valving electric windows up and down. eh? In lalaland eh?

Sure PCR was indeed invented and developed in the 1980s, but not sufficiently developed until the last last few years so that the minutest scrap of DNA recoverable from any sample could be ID'd.Burnt or degraded tissue can't yield sufficient DNA to replicate, partial replication became possible recently .

Which is why "cold cases" are being revisited more frequently now, such as the Meredith Kercher murder, where more advanced methods of DNA testing may now prove, using the minute samples preserved that Amanda Knox was indeed complicit in the murder of Meredith Kercher in Perugia 2007.

Based on PCR. a further method called short tandem repeat STR was later developed during the 1990s, but it's still extremely difficult if not impossible to fully identify some DNA sample. ie burnt or degraded DNA.

"In practice, the risk of contaminated-matching is much greater than matching a distant relative, such as a sample being contaminated from nearby objects, or from left-over cells transferred from a prior test. Logically, the risk is greater for matching the most common person in the samples: everything collected from, or in contact with, a victim is a major source of contamination for any other samples brought into a lab. For that reason, multiple control-samples are typically tested, to ensure that they stayed clean, when prepared during the same period as the actual test samples. Unexpected matches (or variations) in several control-samples indicates a high probability of contamination for the actual test samples."
DNA profiling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which is why "cold cases are being revisited more frequently now, such as the Meredith Kercher murder, where more advanced methods of DNA testing can now prove, using the minute samples preserved that Amanda Knox was indeed complicit in the murder of Meredith Kercher in Perugia 2007.

So how the hell the forensic pathologists at Dover were able to ID everyone through all that degraded material is a bloody miracle, and again a world's first.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

I call those diagrams bullshit, a total fabrication.

That's because you're retarded

Just a fabrication, no basis in reality for the body positions marked in the area that is presumably occupied by the nose of the alleged aircraft.

The passengers were supposed to be in the rear of the plane. hairybarearsedcuza

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Dudes : as for debris, look at this link, and check out the photos carefully :

9-11 Research: The Azari C-130 Crash

Part of which is this paragraph :

The idea that the Pentagon was not struck by a jetliner on 9/11/01 is often asserted on the basis that there was insufficient aircraft debris in front of the Pentagon following the attack. The Azari crash is one of several examples that show crashes of large aircraft into buildings do not necessarily leave large recognizable pieces of aircraft. A C-130 is a four-engine turboprop aircraft similar in weight to a Boeing 757. The fact that the C-130's pilot was attempting to land contrasts with the fact that the Pentagon attack plane approached at about double landing speed, and makes the paucity of rubble in the Azari crash more surprising than in the Pentagon crash.

So by your argument it makes it impossible for anything recognisable to survive the impact, including the passengers, dopey.

The big mystery is where the hell the engines disappeared to, only parts of one small one was found, but wrong size.

The big problem with the story is that there's no published images of bodies, strapped to seats, that some claim to have seen.

I can tell you one thing for sure,.... bodies from aircraft impacting at high speed don't look like bodies any more, they would have been compressed into lumps, skulls driven through the body cavity through into the pelvis, the jaw bone sticking out of the anal orifice, or spine driven through the skull or lower limbs driven straight up through the pelvis.

And in this given scenario, they were then blown up, then burned, then crushed in the building collapse then hosed over and mixed with dirt, foam and aircraft fuel until the chance of recovering any DNA at all would have been nil.
Which is another good reason why Dover couldn't ID all those body parts that they got dumped into a landfill.

The roof was brought down about half an hour after the primary explosion and fire, and no way in the world were all the passenger bodies recovered from there in that half hour.

There's no way passsenger bodies could have been recovered from an alleged airliner crash at the Pentagon.

The only bodies either whole or partially dismembered found at the Pentagon were Pentagon employees.

And unsurprisingly the fuselage of the plane continue through the building and concertinaed before coming to rest.

Which is why most of the debris was inside the building not outside.

Physics 101 for lamebrains like you: Notice how the driver of this car (in this case, one with an intelligence that probably matches yours) continues to move in the direction of travel, restrained from continuing to the final point of impact only by the seat belt.

Now imagine it at 500MPH with a bulkhead, galley equipment and assorted other bits of aviation paraphernalia propelling from behind.



Jaysus, you are so fucking stupid you deserve a medal of some kind.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And unsurprisingly the fuselage of the plane continue through the building and concertinaed before coming to rest.

Which is why most of the debris was inside the building not outside.

Now imagine it at 500MPH with a bulkhead, galley equipment and assorted other bits of aviation paraphernalia propelling from behind.

Oh, wow, which witnesses you gonna believe ? The ones who said the plane pealed back at the wall, the ones who claim that the wings smacked into the wall leaving their marks, or the ones that say the wings were blown up, bits found on the lawn (where) or the folks that reckon the wings folded up and slid into the Pentagon?

There's no evidence whatsoever that "most of the (plane) debris" ended up inside the building.

You have to be thick as sh*t to try and convince anyone that an alleged airliner made of aluminium and composite plastic material
was able to punch through a re-enforced concrete, steel and brick building unscathed to finally concertina at the end of its trajectory. It would have been ripped to shreds well before it ever got close to AE drive where so many passenger bodies were allegedly found.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And unsurprisingly the fuselage of the plane continue through the building and concertinaed before coming to rest.

Which is why most of the debris was inside the building not outside.

Physics 101 for lamebrains like you: Notice how the driver of this car (in this case, one with an intelligence that probably matches yours) continues to move in the direction of travel, restrained from continuing to the final point of impact only by the seat belt.

Now imagine it at 500MPH with a bulkhead, galley equipment and assorted other bits of aviation paraphernalia propelling from behind.



Jaysus, you are so fucking stupid you deserve a medal of some kind.

I saw the result of an accident on the M1 a while back, some car was about four foot long after crashing into a truck that looked as though it had jackknifed and ended up lengthwise across the entire carriageway. I wouldn't expect to see much left of a plane that enters a building.

Originally Posted by ENT

Oh, wow, which witnesses you gonna believe ? The ones who said the plane pealed back at the wall, the ones who claim that the wings smacked into the wall leaving their marks, or the ones that say the wings were blown up, bits found on the lawn (where) or the folks that reckon the wings folded up and slid into the Pentagon?

So now that the basic laws of inertia have been explained to you, now you are inventing witness statements that contradict the photographs.

Soooooo fucking predictable.

You're going to end up one of those harmless mentally ill people that walks down the street muttering to himself while everyone crosses the road to avoid him.

Originally Posted by leemo

I saw the result of an accident on the M1 a while back, some car was about four foot long after crashing into a truck that looked as though it had jackknifed and ended up lengthwise across the entire carriageway. I wouldn't expect to see much left of a plane that enters a building.

I saw the result of a Porsche 9/11 going through a Security Box (sadly with the officer in it) at about 150Mph. The only thing left bigger than a shoe was the engine block.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

Oh, wow, which witnesses you gonna believe ? The ones who said the plane pealed back at the wall, the ones who claim that the wings smacked into the wall leaving their marks, or the ones that say the wings were blown up, bits found on the lawn (where) or the folks that reckon the wings folded up and slid into the Pentagon?

So now that the basic laws of inertia have been explained to you, now you are inventing witness statements that contradict the photographs.

Soooooo fucking predictable.

You're going to end up one of those harmless mentally ill people that walks down the street muttering to himself while everyone crosses the road to avoid him.

Got to let ya know you're losing your marbles, chappy.

In your post #2603 in this thread you posted a list of purported witness statements.

If you go through that list you posted, you'll find that it was that lot who gave conflicting accounts of how the supposed airliner disintegrated.

wasnt the manoeuvre that the plane that hit the pentagon so difficult even an experienced pilot would have struggled? how would a novice do it then? practicing on a SNES?

That's what the experienced pilots say.

But Skippy-the-dancing-dago LD thinks that he could do it.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by leemo

I saw the result of an accident on the M1 a while back, some car was about four foot long after crashing into a truck that looked as though it had jackknifed and ended up lengthwise across the entire carriageway. I wouldn't expect to see much left of a plane that enters a building.

I saw the result of a Porsche 9/11 going through a Security Box (sadly with the officer in it) at about 150Mph. The only thing left bigger than a shoe was the engine block.

Quite expected.

But the car didn't explode in a ball of flames, then keep traveling a hundred metres, punching its way through dozens of concrete and steel columns and six re-enforced concrete walls before concertinaing.

An airliner, basically an aluminium tube, wouldn't have a chance of concertinaing as it (purportedly) went through those walls and a small forest of concrete pillars, leaving a neat pile of bodies/parts exactly where the nose cone was alleged to be.

This s what happens to airliner nose cones on impact, even gentle ones, let alone smashes at 500mph as alleged.

Rumsfeld says plane shot down over Ohio and missile hits Pentagon.



Just to remind you hairybare-arse cuza.

Hardly a damned leaf out of place on those trees, musta been a strange kinda of explosion

This is worth watching and analysing.

Not only the non-airliner becomes more obviously so, but the explosions filmed, two of them, don't support the contention that an airliner crashed at the Pentagon at all.

Debris from the first, small white explosion out on the lawn can clearly be seen drifting and falling before the second larger fireball ignites, and before the "flying object/aircraft reaches the Pentagon facade.



Why the two explosions? What was that debris seen flying forward towards the right of the screen?

A white flash/flame explosion is typical of a gas (CNG/LPG) fueled ignition, no black smoke, so all the debris released by it into the air as seen, lands onto the lawn nice and clean, as seen in countless photographs.

It can also be seen in the overhead view at the end of the video, just before the mystery flying object, not an airliner hits the Pentagon.

Originally Posted by Shrinking Violet

wasnt the manoeuvre that the plane that hit the pentagon so difficult even an experienced pilot would have struggled? how would a novice do it then? practicing on a SNES?

Yes and pilots train to crash every day... He wasn't training to maneuver he was trained to crash ffs, one time....

easy enough to crash a plane!

Strange that the Dover pathologists couldn't find his DNA among all the bodies/parts supposed to have been piled up in the nose cone.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by Shrinking Violet

wasnt the manoeuvre that the plane that hit the pentagon so difficult even an experienced pilot would have struggled? how would a novice do it then? practicing on a SNES?

Yes and pilots train to crash every day... He wasn't training to maneuver he was trained to crash ffs, one time....

Now, tell us all about how ya can get to flying school and train to crash, dipshit.