9/11 was an inside job

**ENT** · 09-07-2012, 06:56 AM

^^The great defender of truth and liberty in the United Prison States of America.

**Humbert** · 09-07-2012, 07:01 AM

^See. Just an impotent little man with no outlet for his hatred.

**Albert Shagnastier** · 09-07-2012, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

They have a fanatical hatred for the US and the Bush gang in particular.

Why do you think that is?

**ENT** · 09-07-2012, 07:09 AM

^^ Who's payrole are you on?

**Cthulhu** · 09-07-2012, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

I said so because I knew the upper steel skeleton section of the towers was not protected by flame retardant and heat reducing materials,

Reference?

Tons of references, but I understand that "facts" are counter to your philosophy:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Asbestos-i...ers&id=3807022

The buildings were fireproofed throughout their construction but it was by the time builders had completed the 40th floors that asbestos was banned and alternatives were used.

Asbestos after September 11, 2001 | Mesothelioma Blog

This is because asbestos was used as fireproofing when the Twin Towers were originally constructed. Construction of the Twin Towers began in 1968. At that time, asbestos bans and warnings were not yet in place. The engineers building the Towers wanted to use spray-on fireproofing on the steel beams that provided the structure for the Towers. This asbestos-containing spray-on fireproofing was used on the first 40 floors of both towers.

Either in anticipation of, or in response to, increasing knowledge about the hazards of asbestos and an eventual ban on the use of asbestos, the steel of the higher floors did not have asbestos-containing fireproofing. It is estimated that about 400 tons of fiber were in the Towers when they collapsed.

Asbestos Use in the Construction of the World Trade Center

Anticipating a ban (on the use of asbestos in construction in NY), the builders stopped using the materials by the time they reached the 40th floor of the north tower, the first one to go up…" According to a spokesman for the Port Authority "more than half of the original, asbestos-containing material was later replaced."

Oh, and:

Defending Skyscrapers Against Terror - NYTimes.com

This describes in good detail why the subsequently used "fireproofing" of the higher floors (spray on concrete) was less effective, no matter what (it conducts heat faster, and cracks under high heat).

**Albert Shagnastier** · 09-07-2012, 07:14 AM

When you go to your other job daffy do the kids in the kindergarten understand your print outs?

**Cthulhu** · 09-07-2012, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

For these 911 truthers it is more about politics than history. They have a fanatical hatred for the US and the Bush gang in particular. Their main objective is mainly to undercut the credibility of the US government and they have adopted a romanticised version of events. They see themselves as playing some important and heroic role in countering the accepted version of events.

It really has less to do with politics or even ego, and a lot to do with good, old-fashioned insanity - paranoia and schizophrenia:

Paranoid schizophrenics are probably more likely to become Truthers than the general population, and probably more likely to have voices in their heads.

**Humbert** · 09-07-2012, 07:15 AM

Ent, why don't you just set up an Uncle Sam punching bag in the middle of Nana Plaza. It would be entertaining, you would work up a good froth and you may get a few satang in your upturned hat.

**Cthulhu** · 09-07-2012, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

^See. Just an impotent little man with no outlet for his hatred.

You're giving them too much credit - it's just some tiny, completely irrelevant people that are driven to want to see important - so they create these beliefs in conspiracies that (apparently) only they are privy to being aware of, placing them (in their minds) in a position of imagined authority.

In reality, they are just a bunch of irrelevant guys with a chemical disorder, and paranoid schizophrenia.

**Cthulhu** · 09-07-2012, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Ent, why don't you just set up an Uncle Sam punching bag in the middle of Nana Plaza. It would be entertaining, you would work up a good froth and you may get a few satang in your upturned hat.

**Albert Shagnastier** · 09-07-2012, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Ent, why don't you just set up an Uncle Sam punching bag in the middle of Nana Plaza. It would be entertaining, you would work up a good froth and you may get a few satang in your upturned hat.

Well done for proving the point Bert.

You and Ernie - 2 Peas in a pod

**Albert Shagnastier** · 09-07-2012, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

How fucn dumb are you?

What nationality are the bible thumping numpties in your example.?

**Humbert** · 09-07-2012, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

In reality, they are just a bunch of irrelevant guys with a chemical disorder, and paranoid schizophrenia.

911 is just the trigger. Paranoia always has its roots in frustration. The root is something other than 911. Powerlessness and its resulting frustration is at the heart of their derangments.

**Yasojack** · 09-07-2012, 07:26 AM

seems old cht has a requiring theme about conspiracy theories but still posts his drivel in them.

delusional disorders and all that.

**Albert Shagnastier** · 09-07-2012, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

In reality, they are just a bunch of irrelevant guys with a chemical disorder, and paranoid schizophrenia.

911 is just the trigger. Paranoia always has its roots in frustration. The root is something other than 911. Powerlessness and its resulting frustration is at the heart of their derangments.

**Humbert** · 09-07-2012, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

What nationality are the bible thumping numpties in your example.?

Hey, it's uncle Boonme in that video!

**ENT** · 09-07-2012, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

I said so because I knew the upper steel skeleton section of the towers was not protected by flame retardant and heat reducing materials,

Reference?

Tons of references, but I understand that "facts" or counter to your philosophy:

The buildings were fireproofed throughout their construction but it was by the time builders had completed the 40th floors that asbestos was banned and alternatives were used.

Asbestos Use in the Construction of the World Trade Center

"more than half of the original, asbestos-containing material was later replaced."

This describes in good detail why the subsequently used "fireproofing" of the higher floors (spray on concrete) was less effective, no matter what (it conducts heat faster, and cracks under high heat).

In other words, all these above references you've given prove that you lied by saying;

"I knew the upper steel skeleton section of the towers was not protected by flame retardant and heat reducing materials".

Well done, troll.

**ENT** · 09-07-2012, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

What nationality are the bible thumping numpties in your example.?

Hey, it's uncle Boonme in that video!

Actually, it's one of them Bible thumping middle-American Bushites from USA prison out on parole spreading his fist waving hatred of all things un-American .

**Latindancer** · 09-07-2012, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

^See. Just an impotent little man with no outlet for his hatred.

Of course ! He posts things about the USA in a little-moderated Thailand forum, because no one else will listen to his stupid conclusions.

Originally Posted by ENT

^^ Who's payrole are you on?

ER, that's "payroll".

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

In reality, they are just a bunch of irrelevant guys with a chemical disorder, and paranoid schizophrenia.

This is becoming apparent to even the most tolerant member visiting these threads....Terry.

Originally Posted by Humbert

911 is just the trigger. Paranoia always has its roots in frustration. The root is something other than 911. Powerlessness and its resulting frustration is at the heart of their derangments.

An astute summing-up.

Let's not forget that ENT has recently stated that the Pentagon plane incident was a "black op", and retracted his earlier claim that a missile hit it. However despite repeated requests, he has not come forward with his version of what might have happened there....in his own words. Instead, he just posts links, or Youtube clips from a tired, sad and widely-discredited doco called Loose Change.
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**terry57** · 09-07-2012, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

News announcers and people they interviewed back then also said the same (architects, oddly enough) - that if these fires would not be contained soon, and the collapsed floors stabilized, that the buildings would collapse into themselves.

Hey ENT, After observing and fighting building fires for over 30 years here's the Rub.

First hand experience here and not cut and paste shit from the net that you revel in.

When steel reaches a certain temperature it weakens and becomes highly unstable, actually very unstable such as yourself.

When fighting a fire in a building with steel supporting beams the first sign of flexing in the steel and we are out of there. You know why that is ENT ?

Because the fuker will fail at any point and kill any firefighting personal below.

When the fire has cooled and the steel has regained its strength we will enter again and overhaul.

A dumb fuk like you with no experience in real time fires would not realize just how quickly steel will become unstable when subject to intense heat exactly as happened in the towers.

Pack of cards dude, it all comes tumbling down.

**ENT** · 09-07-2012, 07:57 AM

^ ^Another lie from Latindancer
Just post a quote where I say that a missile hit the Pentagon building.
I have said that no aircraft or missile hit it.

My posts are based on a broad cross section of references, while you can only troll.

**Cthulhu** · 09-07-2012, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

911 is just the trigger. Paranoia always has its roots in frustration. The root is something other than 911. Powerlessness and its resulting frustration is at the heart of their derangments.

Never discount good, simple, bat-shit-crazy lunacy. Plenty of that to go around with ENT, or that other fellow.

Sometimes, it's just chemical imbalance, manic depression of Aspergers.... in ENT's case, based on his behavior, the latter.

**Latindancer** · 09-07-2012, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by ENT

^ Another lie from Latindancer
Just post a quote where I say that a missile hit the Pentagon building.
I have said that no aircraft or missile hit it.

My posts are based on a broad cross section of references, while you can only troll.

Your posts are based on secondhand "information" you've cut and pasted from discredited sources. You have no personal view of what happened. In this way (and others) you are an empty person.

Various conditions can exist simultaneously, Cthulhu. In ENT they certainly do.....paranoid schizophrenia being strong. He has a tenuous grasp on reality and cannot separate it from fantasy; typical schizo symptoms.
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**Cthulhu** · 09-07-2012, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by ENT

In other words, all these above references you've given prove that you lied by saying;

"I knew the upper steel skeleton section of the towers was not protected by flame retardant and heat reducing materials".

Well done, troll.

Why bother? He doesn't read anything, anyway.

Cthulhu: "Look, ENT, look outside, the sky is blue".

ENT: "Ha, you've lied once again, because the sky is clearly not blue, and you lie, lie, lie (points at blog link from the "Flat Earth Society")" (while standing in front of an open window, with blue sky behind him).

Intelligent people would at least wait until nightfall the claim that the sky is not blue, or get their picture taken in front of a wall - but not ENT. Deluded in the face of facts...

**ENT** · 09-07-2012, 08:02 AM

^^^^ ^Name one fire that you've been involved in where the heat travels downwards and completely destroys a steel framed building within an hour or so.

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