Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by terry57

Not once since the disaster has one person actually stood up and said they where involved in the rigging of the Towers or WTC 7.

Why would anyone do that?

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by terry57

Not once since the disaster has one person actually stood up and said they where involved in the rigging of the Towers or WTC 7. Not fucking one.

As Gilbert said in a post. May be they didn't know directly that they were part of the conspiracy?

Maybe not at the time but I'm sure a penny or two would have dropped in the interim.
And to answer ENTs question.
Human nature.

Just for you Terry.(There's more if you care to look,.... )

WTC Rescue Workers Silenced After Discovery Of Black Boxes
December 13, 2004

A 9-11 rescue worker recently came forward to say he was told by FBI agents to “keep my mouth shut” about one of the “black boxes” a fellow firefighter helped locate at ground zero, contradicting the official story that none of the flight and cockpit data recorders were ever recovered in the wreckage of the World Trade Center (WTC) towers.

Honorary firefighter Mike Bellone claims he was approached by unknown bureau agents a short time after he and his partner, Nicholas DeMasi, a retired New York firefighter, found three of the four “black boxes” among the WTC rubble before January 2002.

DeMasi said the “black boxes” were found while he traversed “ground zero” in his all-terrain vehicle (ATV) with three federal agents.
FBI and New York fire officials have denied ever finding the voice and data

The pair’s bombshell accusations blow a big hole in the official story as well as the findings in the recent 9-11 commission report.”

In Chapter 1, footnote 76, there is the sole but definitive reference to the airline “black boxes”: “The CVR’s and the FDR’s [voice and flight data recorders] from American 11 and United 175 were not found.”
WTC Rescue Workers Silenced After Discovery Of Black Boxes


9/11 Firefighters: Bombs and Explosions in the WTC

The independent commission probing the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington decided not to hear from the worker group that lost more lives than anyone else to the terrorists: The Fire Fighters. [Workday Minnesota]
[
Firefighter Louie] Cacchioli was called to testify privately [before the 9/11 Commission], but walked out on several members of the committee before they finished, feeling like he was being interrogated and cross-examined rather than simply allowed to tell the truth about what occurred in the north tower on 9/11.

"My story was never mentioned in the final report [PDF download] and I felt like I was being put on trial in a court room," said Cacchioli. "I finally walked out. They were trying to twist my words and make the story fit only what they wanted to hear. All I wanted to do was tell the truth and when they wouldn't let me do that, I walked out. ... It was a disgrace to everyone, the victims and the family members who lost loved ones. I don't agree with the 9/11 Commission. The whole experience was terrible." [Arctic Beacon]
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Edmund McNally phoned his wife Liz twice following the
[WTC 2] aircraft impact. Mr McNally said in his second phone call "Liz, this was a terrorist attack. I can hear explosions below me." [NY Times]
Tom Elliott, WTC 2 survivor: They saw only two firemen going up. They told them there had been an explosion near the 60th floor. [csmonitor]

Kim White, WTC 1 survivor: "We got down as far as the 74th floor ... Then there was another explosion, so we left again by the stairwell." [People]
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Explosions occurred below the aircraft impact levels in both towers prior to the collapses. The following gives a reason for the explosions:

"There's a bomb in the building - start clearing out"..."We got a secondary device in the building"

9/11 NBC News broadcast
[wma download]
"Shortly after 9 o'clock ... [Albert Turi the Chief of Safety for the New York Fire Department] received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said there was another explosion which took place, and then an hour after the first hit - the first crash that took place - he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here, so obviously according to his theory he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building.

Two WTC impacts. Three explosions reported.

One of the secondary devices he thinks that took place after the initial impact he thinks may have been on the plane that crashed into one of the towers. The second device - he thinks, he speculates - was probably planted in the building. ... But the bottom line is that he, Albert Turi, said that he probably lost a great many men in those secondary explosions, and he said that there were literally hundreds, if not thousands, of people in those towers when the explosions took place."

Firefighter Schroeder recollects in great detail how he was one of the first firefighters to rush to the complex. ... As they were making there way up the floors, Firefighter Schroeder heard a huge explosion. “The elevators just blew right out. We couldn’t believe it. The plane hits 80 floors up but the elevators explode at least five minutes later? It was unreal.”

Firefighter Schroeder made it all the way up to the 23rd floor before barely hearing on the failing radios that another plane was coming in. That plane would hit the South Tower though for some reason “We were tossed like a rag doll by another explosion in our building. People were making there way down the stairwells burnt like you couldn’t believe. We were all shocked because it seemed as if there was fire everywhere, on so many floors. It just didn’t make sense”. [Prison Planet]

Lou Cacchioli, Firefighter in WTC 1: At that point, Cacchioli found one of the only functioning elevators, one only going as high as the 24th floor ... "Tommy Hetzel was with me and everybody else also gets out of the elevator when it stops on the 24th floor," said Cacchioli, "There was a huge amount of smoke. Tommy and I had to go back down the elevator for tools and no sooner did the elevators close behind us, we heard this huge explosion that sounded like a bomb. It was such a loud noise, it knocked off the lights and stalled the elevator.

"Luckily, we weren't caught between floors and were able to pry open the doors. People were going crazy, yelling and screaming. And all the time, I am crawling low and making my way in the dark with a flashlight to the staircase and thinking Tommy is right behind me. "I somehow got into the stairwell and there were more people there. When I began to try and direct down, another huge explosion like the first one hits. This one hits about two minutes later, although it's hard to tell, but I'm thinking, 'Oh. My God, these bastards put bombs in here like they did in 1993!' [Arctic Beacon]

"...then somebody said that they saw an airliner go into one of those towers. Then, an hour later than that we had that big explosion from much, much lower down and I don't know what caused that."

Much more;
9/11 Firefighters: Bombs and Explosions in the WTC

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by terry57

Not once since the disaster has one person actually stood up and said they where involved in the rigging of the Towers or WTC 7. Not fucking one.

As Gilbert said in a post. May be they didn't know directly that they were part of the conspiracy?

Maybe not at the time but I'm sure a penny or two would have dropped in the interim.
And to answer ENTs question.
Human nature.

I doubt very much that anyone's gonna say, "I helped wire those towers and am guilty of killing thousands of my fellow countrymen."


Unless he was suicidal,....or on his deathbed.

What I'm proposing is what far more than half of the world population now believe.

And this rubbish thread is finally where it belongs.

The thread must have got too close to the truth for the comfort of some rabid Bushites.

Originally Posted by ENT

What I'm proposing is what far more than half of the world population now believe.

I suppose ypu've got us there, most of the Chinese population would prefer to believe it regardless of the facts.

Most of the US or British or European population believe that it was an inside job too.

Originally Posted by ENT

Most of the US or British or European population believe that it was an inside job too.

I didn't say they actually think it.
And I doubt that MOST of the british and US citizens believe it was an inside job.

A thread with nearly 30k views and over 3,300 posts gets put in the doghouse soon to vanish entirely, way to go Thetyim.......

Go look at some credible polls, I've posted one, easy to find, a few posts back, if you're not too lazy to look.

Originally Posted by ENT

Go look at some credible polls, I've posted one, easy to find, a few posts back, if you're not too lazy to look.

I am.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

A thread with nearly 30k views and over 3,300 posts gets put in the doghouse soon to vanish entirely, way to go Thetyim.......

I concurr, WTF.

TD suicide? TV takeover? Thetyim gone senile?

Grumpy old man syndrome ?

Maybe time for TD to die.

We can always organize a strike ! After all, we ARE Teakdoor !

What, no posts? A mass flounce? It nearly happened over the last few months.

Originally I was a doubter that the 9/11 episode could have been a conspiricy. Having watched the 9/11: 'the new Pearl Harbor' video I'm completely the opposite now. I respect those that say "it could never have been a put up job" but don't believe they watched the video.

I didn't believe that it was an inside job until I did the seismo on it in 2006 at uni geophysics, got a B+ for it, the prof. was an ex-NASA geophysicist.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

A thread with nearly 30k views and over 3,300 posts gets put in the doghouse soon to vanish entirely, way to go Thetyim.......

Quality is required, not quantity. This thread is basically ENT posting a load of bollocks and everyone else bar Shaggy ripping the piss out of him.

Bring back MKP I say.

Originally Posted by ENT

Why would anyone do that?

Because humans are complex animals ENT. Impossible to keep everyone quiet for so long. Just don't work that way.

Its been 12 years since that event, someone would of got a case of the guilts, someone might be on there death bed and decide to spill the beans.

I mean what a massive story it would be if a few of them decided to get together and do a tell all.

The news papers would pay them a mosta.

Didn't happen ENT, simply because there was no conspiracy at all Eh ENT.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

A thread with nearly 30k views and over 3,300 posts gets put in the doghouse soon to vanish entirely, way to go Thetyim.

Originally Posted by Koojo

I concurr, WTF.

Had to happen sooner or later on this thread lads what with The Dog gone and the corporate mugs taking over.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally I was a doubter that the 9/11 episode could have been a conspiricy. Having watched the 9/11: 'the new Pearl Harbor' video I'm completely the opposite now. I respect those that say "it could never have been a put up job" but don't believe they watched the video.

Every person like yourself makes this thread worth it.

It was good to see that the last poll had 40% of TD members concurring that 9/11 was an inside job.

It was a long time ago though, and it's time for all involved to move forward.

Fuck Bush, Cheyney, Rumsfeld et all their unseen partners - may they die slowly and painfully.

Brother ENT - go and focus your massive skills on something else and bring that to life.

9/11 was an inside job.

RIP to the millions murdered by Bush, Cheyney and Rumsfeld in their quest for wealth and power both in the US and all over the middle east and beyond.

To my American brothers and sisters that see the truth - I wish you strength and luck in the fight that lays ahead of you all.