View Poll Results: GOP Veepstakes 2012

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  • rob portman

    2 22.22%
  • marco rubio

    1 11.11%
  • chris christie

    1 11.11%
  • mitch daniels

    0 0%
  • bob mcdonnell

    0 0%
  • tim pawlenty

    1 11.11%
  • paul ryan

    0 0%
  • other (can you guess sarah palin? you betcha!)

    4 44.44%
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    No, she wouldn't.

    Her stint as the National Security Advisor to the President who ignored warnings of terrorism coming from the outgoing Administration as well as our own intelligence people prove that she's gone about as low as she can go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    No, she wouldn't.

    Her stint as the National Security Advisor to the President who ignored warnings of terrorism coming from the outgoing Administration as well as our own intelligence people prove that she's gone about as low as she can go.
    Condi Rice.

    Neo-con or not, she was a high ranking diplomat in a Neo-Con administration.

    Just MHO, but I see her as a G.W Bushie, and I also tie her to Iraq.

    Do we know anything about her views? No. Academic and a diplomatic.

    Even though VPs need not divulge much, I see her as a part of the ol' GWB establishment that Romney is distancing himself from.

    Not a chance on Rice.
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    a high ranking diplomat in a Neo-Con administration
    And before that a Director of Unocal, them of the disastrous 'Afghanistan pipeline' fantasy subsequently championed by the delusional neo-cons, which only served to simultaneously enrich Dick Cheney and his pals while impoverishing the USA.

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    OK, lots of the typically stupid banter in the media about "Condi" being a possible VP pick and lots of speculation by the 'talking heads.' This is common in elections.

    No need to put up links to this as it's on the usual news sites.

    The media (like myself) often gets the pick wrong.

    Just goes to show how silly the whole process is in general as well as the process of picking the VP and what the VP means.

    Still don't think she will be chosen and I do not like her as she is a neo-con, tied to GWB, tied to Iraq, etc.

    We shall see.

    What a silly game this is.

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    ^ Respectfully disagree on your adjectives for Condi, but I reckon she does not want the job. But...the country calls...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham View Post
    ^ Respectfully disagree on your adjectives for Condi, but I reckon she does not want the job. But...the country calls...
    Minnie,

    Thanks for the response.

    1. What adjectives do you disagree with and why?

    2. What do you mean by "country calls." It's just another politician picking a token VP in order to gain some demographical votes.

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    “Veep Mistakes” is a project launched today by the liberal super PAC American Bridge 21st Century has released its extensive dossiers on three of the most buzzed-about politicos who could serve as possible running-mates to presumptive Republican nominee Gov. Mitt Romney (R-Ma). The book-sized documents about Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN), Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH)and Florida’s Sen. Marco Rubio (R) are available as .pdf documents via the domainVeepMistakes.com. : Dem group’s document dump dishes dirt on Republican VP hopefuls | The Raw Story


    Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty is portrayed in his dossier as a fiscally incompetent bureaucrat with a penchant for accepting ethically dodgy campaign donations. The former Minnesota governor inherited what he called “the Incredible Hulk” of budget deficits, $4.5 billion, but left office with the state’s economy in tatters and even further in debt, at $6.2 billion, a number he tried to fudge by offsetting the debts to the next budget cycle and calling the resulting splash of revenue a surplus. While in office, he pledged never to raise taxes, but instead he raised fees across the board “on a long list of items, including cigarettes, parking tickets, marriage licenses, building permits, court cases, college tuition and hundreds of other higher fees.”

    Pawlenty was cited on multiple occasions for receiving donations that broke campaign finance rules. The Campaign Finance Board initially charged the governor with a $1 million fine, but it was ultimately reduced.

    Ohio Senator Rob Portman, on the other hand, comes across as the quintessential Bush family courtier. Calling him a “key Bush family advisor, confidante, supporter and appointee,” the Portman book traces his involvement with President George H. W. Bush’s unsuccessful 1980 campaign for president up and follows him through his role ushering Pres. George W. Bush into the White House, his years as the second President Bush’s “point man in Congress” and his roles as trade representative and Budget Director to the Bush administration.

    The national deficit skyrocketed when Portman was director of the Office of Management and Budget, the trade deficit with China leapt 62 percent and Portman proved to be hopeless at predicting financial and economic trends, saying a year before the economic crash of 2008 that the sub-prime mortgage crisis would have no “real world” impact on the economy.

    Florida Sen. Marco Rubio is many people’s favorite option for a Romney VP. The handsome freshman Senator is young and charismatic and could go a long way toward thawing relations between the immigrant-phobic Republican Party and the U.S. Latino community. Rubio may come with a full head of hair, but according to his book from American Bridge, he also comes with a full set of electoral liabilities.

    The report accuses him of “profiting from public service,” using his influence on the state and local level over the years to build his personal wealth. By securing no-bid contracts for companies he was affiliated with, funneling money to companies he later consulted for, worked with or hired to work on his campaigns. As a public figure he has spent lavishly, notably running afoul of the state Republican Party by mixing personal and public spending on an RNC credit card, as well as spending lavishly during campaigns with bookkeeping that American Bridge called “sloppy, at best.”

    Rubio has also run into trouble in the past for fudging certain key details of his parents’ story, portraying them as freedom fighters and who fled Cuba in 1959 to escape the nascent Castro regime. The truth turns out to be less politically expedient and more mundane. In fact, Rubio’s parents left Cuba years before in 1956 during the far-right Batista regime.


    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    OK, lots of the typically stupid banter in the media about "Condi" being a possible VP pick and lots of speculation by the 'talking heads.'

    Still don't think she will be chosen and I do not like her as she is a neo-con, tied to GWB, tied to Iraq, etc.
    Couple more reasons she will not be chosen,..

    She’s pro-choice, used to be a democrat, a woman and in case they haven’t noticed, she might not be the Rights color.
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Now Rics has definitively said (see the media reports) that she will not accept the position.

    This "speculation" was started by Romney and his campaign team so it may be a deflection tactic (that we often see in elections).

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post

    Couple more reasons she will not be chosen,..

    She’s pro-choice, used to be a democrat, a woman and in case they haven’t noticed, she might not be the Rights color.
    Off the mark again on that one.

    Why The Dems and the Media Won’t Stand For Condi As Veep.

    Mebe 'cause they're racist & sexist?

    Heh, she’s more authentically black — American black than Obama too.

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    OK, if we can trust this info.

    Down to 3.

    Vote now:

    WASHINGTON | Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:26pm EDT
    (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney appears to be in the final stages of deciding who to pick as his vice presidential running mate, with speculation growing that he has narrowed his choice down to a short-list of three.

    Ohio Senator Rob Portman, former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal all offer various strengths to Romney should he decide to pick one of them to join his battle to unseat President Barack Obama and his vice president, Joe Biden, in the November 6 election.

    Many Repu
    Romney appears in final stages of running-mate decision | Reuters

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    I don't know much about his politics that seperates him from the others, but I hope it's Bobby Jindal. Everytime I see him I think of one of those little Troll Dolls they sell on key chains in drug stores. Wouldn't that make a great team?

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    Bye-bye Marco Rubio in Romney veepstakes? - MiamiHerald.com

    Sen. Marco Rubio seems to have fallen off the shortlist of vice-presidential candidates for Republican Mitt Romney. The right wing isn’t happy.

    Fox News’ Sean Hannity sounds beside himself. Reuters seems pretty sure. Same with NBC Nightly News.

    They all appear to believe that Florida Sen. Marco Rubio isn’t at the top of the unofficial shortlist to be Mitt Romney’s vice presidential. That is, Rubio isn’t on the shorter list of running mates.

    "Why do I keep hearing they’re not going to pick Rubio?" Hannity asked with some sense of frustration Monday night on his show. "I want Rubio ... with everybody else."

    Well, not quite.

    Rubio hasn’t really endeared himself to Mitt Romney. Sure, Rubio helped scuttle Newt Gingrich’s campaign, which Gingrich was busily scuttling anyway this January, by chiding the Republican for sounding like a Democrat over immigration.

    And Rubio gave a pretty tepid and late endorsement of Romney on Hannity’s show well after the Florida primary.



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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post

    Couple more reasons she will not be chosen,..

    She’s pro-choice, used to be a democrat, a woman and in case they haven’t noticed, she might not be the Rights color.
    Off the mark again on that one.
    oh!, do you also think she's gay?

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    ruibio would fire up the extreme base....but so did palin...and where did that get them?

    IMO he'd become a liability about 48 hours after the announcement---basically his entire back story is a lie, he's got a lot of explaining to do about highly questionable financial dealings, and he's too young and inexperienced. once the national media starts doing some serious investigating (particularly into the financial shenanigans) he'd be toast. and you can be sure that the obama campaign's oppo staff has a hard drive full of info on marco.

    i voted for portman in this poll, but i'm beginning to think it might go to pawlenty. romney needs a counterbalance to his wealth (and how he got it), and pawlenty can do that. i've also read that they're friendly. the only problem i foresee is that he's even more boring portman....and that's saying something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    IMO he'd become a liability about 48 hours after the announcement---basically his entire back story is a lie, he's got a lot of explaining to do about highly questionable financial dealings, and he's too young and inexperienced.
    Agreed.

    Some financial foibles in the closet.

    I do not think Rubio will be chosen.

    As someone noted, Romney is careful. The VP pick will be safe, and vetted to the "t."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
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    I don't know much about his politics that seperates him from the others, but I hope it's Bobby Jindal. Everytime I see him I think of one of those little Troll Dolls they sell on key chains in drug stores. Wouldn't that make a great team?
    His name isn't 'Bobby', it's 'Piyush'.

    That alone is probably foreign enough sounding to send the right wing running under their beds to refill their Depends®

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    I never knew

    Bobby Jindal's Exorcism Problem


    A much bigger reason why Jindal won't be Romney's running mate is the exorcism he conducted.

    No, really. Jindal himself wrote about the experience in 1994 for the New Oxford Review, in an article entitled "Beating a Demon: Physical Dimensions of Spiritual Warfare." The short of it is that, while Jindal was an undergraduate, his close friend, Susan, with whom he had maintained a wholly non-romantic relationship, began acting strange. One might attribute this to the fact that she was undergoing treatment for cancer. Jindal assumed she had been possessed. A sample:

    Maybe she sensed our weariness; whether by plan or coincidence, Susan chose the perfect opportunity to attempt an escape. She suddenly leapt up and ran for the door, despite the many hands holding her down. This burst of action served to revive the tired group of students and they soon had her restrained once again, this time half kneeling and half standing. Alice, a student leader in Campus Crusade for Christ, entered the room for the first time, brandishing a crucifix. Running out of options, UCF had turned to a rival campus Christian group for spiritual tactics. The preacher had denied our request for assistance and recommended that we not confront the demon; his suggestion was a little late. I still wonder if the good preacher was too settled to be roused from bed, or if this supposed expert doubted his own ability to confront whatever harassed Susan.

    ...

    The crucifix had a calming effect on Susan, and her sister was soon brave enough to bring a Bible to her face. At first, Susan responded to biblical passages with curses and profanities. Mixed in with her vile attacks were short and desperate pleas for help. In the same breath that she attacked Christ, the Bible's authenticity, and everyone assembled in prayer, Susan would suddenly urge us to rescue her. It appeared as if we were observing a tremendous battle between the Susan we knew and loved and some strange evil force. But the momentum had shifted and we now sensed that victory was at hand.


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    ^ Jindal is what I call an "extreme" Catholic. Yes, exorcisms and possibly other 'religious' things.

    The question is, would it stick?

    I'm not sure today. The US public has been exposed to Monica, Gary Hart's Monkey business, and this part of Catholicism will not likely affect anyone, IMO.

    After all, Romney is a Mormon who conducted baptism on dead people. Nobody seems to care.

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    Only in the US would mitty mormon be considered downright normal compared to some of the bizarre religious dross thrown up by the GOP. I'm quite pleased actually that his faith is not being made a major issue of, although sadly the opposite does not apply when it comes to the nonsensical allegations of Obama being a Moslem, or his 'racist firebrand pastor'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    I'm quite pleased actually that his faith is not being made a major issue of
    no yet.

    if it happens, it will be because the race is extremely close in the swing states...and IMO if/when it happens, it'll be much closer to election day.....to remind evangelicals that he's a leader of that 'cult' and keep them at home.

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    ^or remind the Hispanic voters why the (Mormon) Romney family moved to Mexico in the first place. Not because they loved Mexico/Hispanics, it was because Miles Park (Dim Mitt’s great-grandfather) didn’t want to get arrested for having more than one wife.

    In Mexico they could live in sin

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth
    It appeared as if we were observing a tremendous battle between the Susan we knew and loved and some strange evil force.
    Why, that sounds like the Republican party itself. Do you suppose Bobby J. really could be the one to save it...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth
    It appeared as if we were observing a tremendous battle between the Susan we knew and loved and some strange evil force.
    Why, that sounds like the Republican party itself. Do you suppose Bobby J. really could be the one to save it...?
    Save it? Not sure on the meaning and/or definition of that term.

    Save the GOP potus candidate for this election or, the GOP as a party?

    If the GOP needs to be saved it is declining and/or dying. I do not think that is the case but as noted from the demographics in the mid and long-term the GOP may likely be declining and/or decline.

    Can a VP save a party? No.

    Can a VP get a few extra votes in what appears to be a coming tight election?

    Yes.

    Will Jindal be able to do this? I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth
    It appeared as if we were observing a tremendous battle between the Susan we knew and loved and some strange evil force.
    Why, that sounds like the Republican party itself. Do you suppose Bobby J. really could be the one to save it...?
    Save it? Not sure on the meaning and/or definition of that term.

    Save the GOP potus candidate for this election or, the GOP as a party?

    If the GOP needs to be saved it is declining and/or dying. I do not think that is the case but as noted from the demographics in the mid and long-term the GOP may likely be declining and/or decline.

    Can a VP save a party? No.

    Can a VP get a few extra votes in what appears to be a coming tight election?

    Yes.

    Will Jindal be able to do this? I'm not sure.
    I'm really refering to the GOP Party, and that from an historical perspective at that. Ronald Reagan could not be nominated for a judgeship these days without the GOP killing it. Eisenhower...? My God, an infrastructure happy Socialist if ever I saw one.

    The historical GOP is pretty much already gone, I'm thinking. Been coming for a long time, since Reagan really, but now hamstrung by the Tea Party wing-nuts who were hired temps to be their populist-racist-screamers while the old guard stood by as the adults in the room and their consiglieries in the establishment. In terms of the historical GOP, it's suprising how far it fell how fast. The Tea Party will not get a favorite as a veep pick. It will turn out to be a real Albatross around the establishment GOP's neck, and in the end it will strangle it. IMO.

    Nevertheless, as long as his veep is a safe choice the corporations-who-are-people will very possibly be able to buy it for Mittens.

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    A list provided (again). We have posted and voted.

    This weekend could make or break any of eight potential Mitt Romney running mates who are fanning out to key battleground states to keep the GOP presidential nominee’s name in front of voters while he is away on a trip to the London Olympics, Poland and Israel.

    Potential vice presidential pick from front-runners Ohio Sen. Rob Portman and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty to those way down the list like former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani are hosting “victory rallies” and fundraisers in Romney’s absence.

    The performances will be closely watched by Romney’s vice presidential vetting team who insiders say is looking for a steady, non-controversial running mate who can rally crowds without making any gaffes. Their “presidentialness” will also be on display, a trait the campaign views as key since their effort will be to unveil a team ready for the White House.

    Here’s the vice presidential audition schedule:

    -- Rudy Giuliani is working voters and raising money in Boca Raton, Florida Friday.

    -- Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal headlines a victory rally Saturday in Coral Springs, Florida.

    -- South Dakota Sen. John Thune is in Springfield, Virginia Friday for a victory rally.

    -- Florida Sen. Marco Rubio hosts a victory rally in Las Vegas Saturday.

    -- Ohio Sen. Rob Portman helps out in Ohio Saturday and Pennsylvania Monday.

    -- Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty heads to Raleigh, N.C. Saturday.

    -- Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan will campaign for Romney Sunday in his home state.

    -- South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley has a trip to Michigan scheduled for next week.

    In the rankings of who matters in the vice presidential race, Larry Sabato, who heads the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, only Jindal, Rubio, Portman, Pawlenty and Ryan count.

    In his latest Crystal Ball he seemed to dismiss others down the list, and took a shot at the Drudge Report for playing up the possibility that former Secretary of State Condi Rice is in contention. His review of the second tier:

    Sen. Kelly Ayotte (NH): Sarah Palin’s experience may make it difficult for Romney to choose a woman this cycle.

    Former Gov. Jeb Bush (FL): Wrong last name. He wasn’t interested, and the sentiment was apparently returned.

    Gov. Chris Christie (NJ): One boardwalk confrontation too many.

    Former Gov. Mike Huckabee (AR): We’re confident that his Fox TV show pays better than VP.

    Gov. Bob McDonnell (VA): Have we ever mentioned transvaginal ultrasounds? Also: He’s too busy saving prestigious universities.

    Sen. John Thune (SD): In the boring, competent white guy department, Thune places well but is trumped by Pawlenty and Portman.

    P.S. We took former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice off our list last month, and others should have too — Drudge, this means you
    VP audition: 8 hopefuls fan out for Romney | WashingtonExaminer.com

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    Piyush seems to be ruling himself out of the running:

    Jindal on veepstakes: 'Paul Ryan brings a lot to the table' - First Read

    Perhaps Rmoney will go for the Hail Mary pass and get Bachmann or Jan Brewer?




    pleasepleaseplease.

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