Thread: GOP Veepstakes 2012

Originally Posted by barbaro

It's about the US government promising to pay out $72+ Trillion dollars. The money is not there and will not be there.

Isn't it really about where that debt came from--Bush tax breaks for the wealthy and two unfunded wars--piled on top of the de-funding of services and the shift of wealth since Reagan toward the 99%, that has created much of the problem. The money would be there if the ideology that supports corporate interests paid their fair share. Where's the magic trickle down that was supposed to happen?
They (Repbus and Dems) have robbed Social Security repeatedly over the years, now they blame Social Security for being a flawed program. The same tactic has been used repeatedly to defund government spending over the years, from schools to infrastructure, a slow, long term program to destroy programs for the public good--that build the wealth of a nation instead of private wealth. Walker and Ryan are Koch Brother puppets to carry that torch.

I don't know where your figure of 72 Bil. comes from, but the whole idea that we have to make sure we support the "job creators" with more tax breaks while blaming school teachers and union workers for the problem is a kool aid I havent't drank.
No, I haven't seen or heard of IOUSA.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by barbaro

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by barbaro

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Bobby Jindal has a shot at the nomination- he would add some ethnic diversity to the ticket, and he encompasses traditional Republican values (anti-abortion, pro-gun, etc).

Jindal has a shot at the nomination?

Can you please explain.

A young, dynamic, ethnic, super-republican who's already had some national exposure- why wouldn't he have a shot?

Google the man- he's all over the news (along with a lot of others) as far as veep speculation goes- I'm not saying he's the front-runner, but he can't be dismissed.

He's young. Probably with a very clean background. And he has been offering ideas and specific solutions (although he is avoiding Medicare cuts and other things (correct?)).

Ryan focused on the real problem facing the entire nation: Entitlements.

About 48% of Americans qualify and receive a form of payment in cash from the federal government. This is not sustainable. It's based on mathematics.

At least he's talkinb about it. I can only recall David Walker (former GAO) and Chuck Hagel (R-Neb) specifically addressing it.

Yes, so? Your response to the post of mine that you quoted implied you think Jindal has no shot at the nomination- as I said, he's not the front-runner, but his name is still in the hat- having him on the ticket might attract a few liberals from the Democratic side who don't want to vote for a couple of typical Republican white guys (and don't want to be seen a racist for abandoning Obama) and would be happy to see an Indian guy on the ticket- his ethnicity wouldn't drive away current Republicans (who want to see the usual status quo) due to Obama being half black.

I don't particularly like Jindal as far as his views go, but I can see why he's attractive to the party.

The veep nomination has nothing to do with issues- it has to do with wooing voters that the guy running for the top spot can't attract (do you think McCain picked Palin for her political stance? He was hoping a decent looking woman would score him votes- he would have picked anybody to secure the office of POTUS).

Nomination is for the party formally endorsing the Presidential candiate.

Jindal could be chosen as a VP, but cannot be nominated for President as he has no delegates.

Perhaps the brainy policy wonk has been practicing with coaches to craft a more personable persona, which unfortunately is important to appealing to the masses. Liberals won't vote for Romney because of a Jindal pick. They will stay with BO, even though they are heavily disappointed. Jindal has some unique Catholic views, as well.

I completely agree with you that choosing the VP has nothing to do with the issues. This is evident in the awful VPs chosen over many decades. Recent bad picks were Reagan choosing G. H. Bush over Laxalt. Mondale picking Ferraro, Dan Quayle, and Palin.

I do think as bad as the picks have been anything is possible. And Jindal would be better than many.

Originally Posted by barbaro

Recent bad picks were Reagan choosing G. H. Bush over Laxalt. Mondale picking Ferraro, Dan Quayle, and Palin.

And the elephant (in this case, donkey) in the room would be Mad Joe Biden. Cannot believe you left him off the list?

Originally Posted by S Landreth

No chance Romney will choose Rubio as a running mate now.

Ya think?

Rubio would garner support from the Latino community, which is an increasingly very important demographic.

He's is also extremely well spoken and telegenic. He's smoother and smarter than the Messiah IMHO and he's got good credentials. I think he would make a better POTUS than Romney, therefore a good VP pick.

Whoever get's picked; the Liberals will try to tear him/her several new assholes. I think Rubio best suited to weather that spurious storm that's a brewing.

The other brilliant choice would be Condoleeza Rice, but I don't think she'd go for it. Rice would also make a good President. She's smarter than any of them, therefore too smart for the job.

OK, I'm throwing out a 'hypothetical' that we know will not happen.

Colin Powell.

He wouldn't accept anyway, but it's a fantasy pool.

some VP news,.........

Informal Romney adviser: ‘Palin poisoned the well’ for female VP candidates


and this,........


WaPo follows up on this morning’s bombshell about the non-vetting of Rubio by confirming that (a) indeed, he’s not being vetted at the moment and (b) the two safest picks in the field are.

Other vice presidential candidates, including Sen. Rob Portman (Ohio) and former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty, are undergoing a more intensive review, according to two Republicans close to the campaign…

“By the time you apply the gravitas test, which is really 95 percent of what Governor Romney’s looking at — people when introduced to America nobody would think twice about their ability to be president if necessary — that wipes out 90 percent of the field,” said one outside adviser close to the Romney operation who requested anonymity to speak candidly about the selection process.

The adviser said other Republicans once presumed to be contenders, including Sen. Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez, fall under this same category. More-experienced candidates said to be under consideration include Rep. Paul Ryan, the House Budget Committee chairman, as well as Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal.

two old white guys: So, is the VP race down to Portman and Pawlenty - Hot Air

I believe ya Dim Mitt,..........



Dis of Marco Rubio by anonymous advisers derails Mitt Romney for a day

Mitt Romney spent his entire Tuesday letting anonymous advisers dismiss Sen. Marco Rubio as a possible vice-presidential pick before flatly saying the reports are false

Newsflash: Sen. Marco Rubio is on Mitt Romney’s shortlist for vice president.

That didn’t sound like news — until anonymous Republicans cast doubt on the situation Tuesday, throwing Romney’s campaign into a messaging tailspin that took an entire day to clean up.

And it was Romney who had to do the mop-up work after ABC, the Washington Post and the New York Times quoted advisers of Romney saying the Florida senator wasn’t under serious consideration as a vice-presidential running mate.

“This story was entirely false,” Romney told reporters. “Marco Rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process.”

But by the time Romney made his comments — about 6 p.m. — the damage was done.


while you try to hang on to those few uninformed Hispanic voters you have.: Dis of Marco Rubio by anonymous advisers derails Mitt Romney for a day - MiamiHerald.com

^you keep on dreamin',..............


Tim Pawlenty has jumped to the top of the vice presidential shortlist of several Mitt Romney advisers after emerging as the most effective — and well-liked — surrogate for the GOP nominee-to-be, according to several Republicans familiar with campaign deliberations.

The former Minnesota governor has impressed top Romney officials with his winning onstage presence at a grueling roster of Republican events throughout the country and with his low-maintenance personal style that has made him a favorite with the campaign’s tight-knit inner circle at the Boston headquarters.

snip

There is a universal view that Romney will not take a risk, or anything approximating one. ABC’s Jonathan Karl first reported that Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) isn’t being vetted by Myers. This echoes POLITICO’s earlier reporting that Romney aides think his Florida past is too freighted with controversy, even if it’s overblown.

“They’re getting more and more risk-averse because they’re doing better and better,” said a Republican in Washington who talks daily with top campaign officials.

Romney on Tuesday insisted that Rubio is in fact being “thoroughly vetted” for the veep spot, though that was being viewed less as a boost to Rubio’s chances of being picked and more as a recognition that the no-vetting story was hurting Romney, by making it seem like he was snubbing a popular Hispanic lawmaker.

suckin' up: Tim Pawlenty's stock soars in Romney-world - POLITICO.com Print View

Boon and Landreth,

I consider Rubio a long shot because of his age: he's young.

But if you look at the dynamics, and the potential tightness of the race....who knows?

I say "who knows" because....of Palin.

If Palin can be chosen as VP (which was insane) then Rubio definitely has a shot.

If Palin would never have been chosen 4 years ago, I wouldn't say Rubio is possible.

Sad to say, but the Hispanic vote is a factor in some states. Does Rubio translate to a Hispanic voter? I do not know.

^Rubio has got no shot (cause he's an asshole) and he never ever had a chance,........

The Romney campaign tells CBS News that, as a first-term U.S. senator, Rubio's a long shot, and that if you're betting, you should probably put your money on Portman or Pawlenty.: Sources: Rubio a long shot for Romney VP slot - CBS News

Originally Posted by S Landreth

^Rubio has got no shot (cause he's an asshole) and he never ever had a chance,........

The Romney campaign tells CBS News that, as a first-term U.S. senator, Rubio's a long shot, and that if you're betting, you should probably put your money on Portman or Pawlenty.: Sources: Rubio a long shot for Romney VP slot - CBS News

I do not think Rubio is/was honestly even being vetted.

In addition to your article I read another article today stating that Romney folks worked on the Crist (?) campaign and dug deep into negatives that Rubio has.

Also, Rubio spend public money on some personal issues (allegations) and went into $1 million in personal debt and almost foreclosed on his home.

Add the fact that he only has 1 1/2 years experience in the Senate, and it's a "no."

But chance yes, but with a cautious and prudent Romney, no way.

As you say, Portman and Pawlenty could seem very strong.

We'll know in less than 8 weeks.....(wow).

Originally Posted by barbaro

Add the fact that he only has 1 1/2 years experience in the Senate, and it's a "no."
.

Add that to nearly ten years as a state legislater and a spell as city commissioner would give Rubio much more experience than Obama applied for the job with.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by barbaro

Add the fact that he only has 1 1/2 years experience in the Senate, and it's a "no."
.

Add that to nearly ten years as a state legislater and a spell as city commissioner would give Rubio much more experience than Obama applied for the job with.

The topic is not the background of the potus but the potential VP's background.

Apples and Oranges.

All this fuss over the Rube is as misplaced and futile as michellefromgod, hockeymumsarah, the donald, pizzaboy, blowave rick etc before that. They're not gonna drop another sarahbomb- the GOP ain't that dumb. Supposedly.

At this juncture, all that stands out about the veepstakes is a dearth of credible candidates.

i disagree with them on nearly every policy issue, but IMO portman and pawlenty are credible (yet boring) VP choices....so is daniels, but he took the purdue job today, so presumably he's out of the running.

Just a little look into what some other crazy (for the most part) republicans at Hotair.com have at the top of their wish list for VP,………..

Allen West

After a long run at the top, Marco Rubio has been overtaken by Bobby Jindal as Hot Air’s pick for vice president. Allen West came in third, followed by Paul Ryan and Condoleezza Rice. Over 2300 votes were cast: Hot Air Survey: Vice Presidential Results « Hot Air

At least some of those nuts have gotten over the fact that Rubio would be a good choice.

IMO (and I assume many others) jindal just isn't ready for prime time. he did a reply to the state of the union a year or two back and it was embarrassing--i actually found myself feeling sorry for him...until i saw the great spoofs that were put up on youtube, and then i just laughed at him.

as far as allen west is concerned....he's certifiably crazy. it's no wonder the dopes that read 'hot air' would want him to be VP.

Originally Posted by raycarey

IMO (and I assume many others) jindal just isn't ready for prime time. he did a reply to the state of the union a year or two back and it was embarrassing--i actually found myself feeling sorry for him...until i saw the great spoofs that were put up on youtube, and then i just laughed at him.

as far as allen west is concerned....he's certifiably crazy. it's no wonder the dopes that read 'hot air' would want him to be VP.

Jindal.

No. Not a chance.

Romney is not a risk taker like McCain.

Romney is pragmatic. Jindal is a brainiac and good on him. Jindal is policy wonk. He does not translate well with people, and that is fine. But a VP must do so - even though we know a VP is only window-dressing.

It won't be Jindal.

Some (rethugs) wish that Dimm Mitt will pick Rice, but there isn't a chance.

In an interview with "CBS This Morning," the former secretary of state said, "There is no way that I will do this," when asked if she would accept a position as the No. 2 on this year's Republican presidential ticket.

"Charlie, I didn't run for student council president. I don't see myself in any way in elected office. I love policy. I'm not particularly fond of politics," she told host Charlie Rose, adding that she thinks Romney has "terrific judgment."

Pressed on whether she would turn it down if asked, she said, "I'm saying there is no way that I will do this, because it's really not me. I know my strengths, and governor Romney needs to find someone who wants to run with him."


video in the link: Condoleezza Rice says "no way" to VP for Romney - CBS News

Condi is pure class. She would not lower herself to be a politician.