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    The Republican Mind

    A great article describing the thought process of lizard brain conservatives. Forget that crap about fiscal restraint, libertarianism, or whatever other bullshit the enemy is peddling to make their regressive agenda seem palatable to civilized people. The conservative agenda isn't about freedom, it is about the power to be a your own dictator at the office/home. Think of the weedy twerp who gets off on enforcing petty corporate rules (e.g Gareth from the Office). The solution might be to give every conservative a dog to boss around so that the rest of us can enjoy living in civilized society with universal healthcare and and generously funded public education.

    Conscience of a Radical: Corey Robin


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    "A young man who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart. A grown man who isn't a conservative, doesn't have a brain." Mark Twain.

    Enough said.

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    Lifted from the article-

    Robin’s thesis is simple: ignore the Right-wing taxonomy.
    Precisely. The great Lie is that these folk are conservative- they are not. They are Conservative (a peculiarly American verbal sleight of hand), in the sense of reactionary, scared (about what?), and regressive. All too often bigoted, too. Too many 'staunch Republicans' are sticking with the modern party from lifelong habit, if you ask me, in the misplaced belief that they are still the conservative party. Wrong- they changed. The lunatic alliance of Neo-con's and the Religious right that swept in the disastrous Bush administration spelt the death knell of real Republicanism.

    This man is perfect neo- Republican vote fodder, but he is not a conservative-




    Anyway, the old saying goes that you don't necessarily get the government you want in a democracy, but you get the government you deserve. Bring on the election. The next President will be the same one you have now- but as long as the hijacked GOP hangs on to a majority in Congress, they will have enough sway to keep the wheels of government mired in slime. Assisted, sadly, by too many in the Democrat party.

    These people are dangerous radicals- further empowered by Citizens United, but I can assure you they have little in common with their deluded fan base above. In real life, they pay people quite well to keep the great unwashed like that away from them.:-

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
    "A young man who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart. A grown man who isn't a conservative, doesn't have a brain." Mark Twain.

    Enough said.
    Thought that is a Churchill quote.

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    That was a Churchill quote. I don't get the Churchill worship. He opposed Germany because they threatened England's colonial empire. That was his moral case against Hitler. He was a moron as a military strategist (Gallapolli in WW1, Italy in WW2). Even though he is considered a wartime hero in England, they rejected him as prime minister in the 45 election because they wholly rejected his conservative philosophy on domestic governance.

    Sabang,
    You are under the false impression that conservatives are "tricked" into voting the way they do. Sarah Palin, George Bush, and Edmund Burke are part of the same counter revolution. Non elite conservatives are spiteful little shits that do vote in their interest. If any of you conservatives disagree, give me the reason contraception is a dominant issue in the Republican primary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
    "A young man who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart. A grown man who isn't a conservative, doesn't have a brain." Mark Twain.

    Enough said.
    Thought that is a Churchill quote.

    Hmm. I'll have to look it up. Perhaps, Churchill "borrowed" it from Twain?

    I'll get back on that.

    RickThai

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    ^Whoever coined it was spot on.

    “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.” William F. Buckley

    Sorta sums it up, eh?

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    Sure as hell wasn't Twain that said the quote above.

    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals."
    ~Mark Twain

    "A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward."
    ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

    "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."
    ~John Stuart Mill

    Truman was always the best at these quotes;

    "Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Republican. But I repeat myself."
    ~Harry Truman

    "I wonder how many times you have to be hit on the head before you find out who's hitting you? It's about time that the people of America realized what the Republicans have been doing to them."
    ~Harry Truman

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."
    like that one, quite true

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    A conservative believes nothing should be done for the first time.
    Thomas Fuller

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    Cynicism defines the Republican mind.

    Greg Gutfield:
    "I became a conservative by being around liberals and I became a libertarian by being around conservatives. You realize that there’s something distinctly in common between the two groups, the left and the right; the worst part of each of them is the moralizing."


    Oscar Wilde:
    "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing".

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    If we're going to do quotes on Conservative vs. Liberal, I offer this gem:

    "The liberal tradition in the West tries to impute to the behavior of the native or the underdog an idealist position which is not really there. They want to think of the peoples of [the Middle East] as "noble savages," as Jean-Jacques Rousseau put it. Instead of saying, what we have here is an outmoded form of thinking clashing with an attempt to construct modern states.... When it comes to thinking about Middle East politics, the American liberal mind is often chasing rainbows. They are living in a world of delusion." - Kemal Salibi, Lebanese Historian

    Living in a world of delusion 'bout sums it up, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    ^Whoever coined it was spot on.

    “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.” William F. Buckley

    Sorta sums it up, eh?
    Interesting that you touch upon Mr. Buckley.
    On the surface, he was predictably labled an old-school, old-money conservative of that American variety. Contrary to many of the political models that were set upon him, he could appear quite staunchly "liberal" regarding many social and political ideaologies of the day. I believe in today's American political lexicon in would easily be classified as the definitive [American] Libertarian.

    His wit and easy wisdom were generations ahead of the curve.

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    Near as I can tell, Mark Twain didn't make that quote. Still, as ancient Chinese masters used to say (or at least according to my Taiwanese ex-girlfriend), "Good words are never said twice".

    Simple logic should prove the following:

    "If everyone worked for the US government, or survived by taking handouts from the US government, the USA would fail as a nation and as a financial institution."

    "If everyone worked in the private sector, with minimal taxes, and minimal government (strong military, no give-me's to the sick, lame, and lazy (not to mention illegals), the nation will prosper."

    Conservative leadership and individual self-reliance make for strong people, well-do-leaders, and a strong nation.

    Proof: If everyone had a job, then the economy and nation would prosper.

    Liberalism/socialism make for weak people, rich leaders, and a weak nation.

    Proof: If everyone worked for the goverment or was on welfare, then the economy and the nation would not survive (a stronger, conservative country would take it over).

    Seems rather obvious.

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    This is not the Republican party of Eisenhower, Nixon, or even Bush sr. It has been overrun by low brow populists, the bigoted religious right (southern Baptists and evangelicals mainly), and is blatantly manipulated by the already Rich and their minions aiming to feather their own nests. Their are few real Republicans left in the GOP imo, and those few that can claim to be so keep it quiet because of the thuggery of the various Tea parties.

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    ^
    Thugery of the Tea Party? Come to your senses. Who's performing like criminals here? The #Occupies, not Conservatives who support the Constitution and a smaller government.



    Syndicated columnist Ben Shapiro explains why the Obama left is obsessed with growing government, even at the cost of economic health and liberty.


    To a liberal, the State is God, which is why even bankrupting the country as Obama is openly doing is not too high a price to pay to increase its power.


    In a word, what is the State? It is coercion. For all their nauseating metrosexual sissiness, liberals worship brute force. These are by definition the real thugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
    Near as I can tell, Mark Twain didn't make that quote. Still, as ancient Chinese masters used to say (or at least according to my Taiwanese ex-girlfriend), "Good words are never said twice".

    Simple logic should prove the following:

    "If everyone worked for the US government, or survived by taking handouts from the US government, the USA would fail as a nation and as a financial institution."

    "If everyone worked in the private sector, with minimal taxes, and minimal government (strong military, no give-me's to the sick, lame, and lazy (not to mention illegals), the nation will prosper."

    Conservative leadership and individual self-reliance make for strong people, well-do-leaders, and a strong nation.

    Proof: If everyone had a job, then the economy and nation would prosper.

    Liberalism/socialism make for weak people, rich leaders, and a weak nation.

    Proof: If everyone worked for the goverment or was on welfare, then the economy and the nation would not survive (a stronger, conservative country would take it over).

    Seems rather obvious.
    you sound retarded,

    oh wait, you are Thai, what a surprise

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
    Conservative leadership and individual self-reliance make for strong people, well-do-leaders, and a strong nation.
    Seems rather obvious.
    Yes it does...

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    It is a perfectly legal form of 'thuggery' booner, but various Tea parties have indeed made their elected representatives change their public stance on several issue's, under threat of running a more Right wing candidate against them- the result of which would likely be a loss of that seat to the Democrat's, except in the most deep red constituencies. Lindsey Graham is a good example, if you remember that one. A good example also of the moral hypocrisy of the current GOP also, because one of the blatant threats used against him is that he would be outed as a closet gay, which actually has to be one of Washington's worse kept secrets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
    Conservative leadership and individual self-reliance make for strong people, well-do-leaders, and a strong nation.
    Seems rather obvious.
    Yes it does...
    Quite- and it is a great shame that the GOP turned it's back on that.

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    Well, politics sometimes trumps moral issues as it has done throughout time. With the Left becoming more and more deranged - growing the government, more entitlements ad nasuem, the threat of outing Lindsey Graham is small beer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
    Conservative leadership and individual self-reliance make for strong people, well-do-leaders, and a strong nation.
    Seems rather obvious.
    Yes it does...
    Quite- and it is a great shame that the GOP turned it's back on that.

    I don't know why self-reliance and an effective system of governmental services are mutually exclusive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    the Left becoming more and more deranged
    How can you say that when US tax rates are at their lowest for several generations?
    From a top down perspective, the main difference between the GOP and Dem's is that the Dem's like to balance their books, and the GOP likes to declare Wars.

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    ^^
    Because entitlements by definition take away any ambition to improve one's standard of living. Whole generations of people on welfare with no incentive to do better.

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