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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    “We do not support countries upgrading their relations or expressing support to rehabilitate the brutal dictator Bashar al-Assad,” State Department Ned Price told reporters. When asked if the US spoke to Turkey about the issue, Price said, “We’ve made very clear to all of our allies and partners that now is not the time to normalize relations, now is not the time to upgrade relations.”
    The moral beacon of the world dictates the policy of its allies

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The current US policy against Syria, as Secretary of State Antony Blinken has put it, is to “oppose” the country’s reconstruction after over a decade of war. Price accused Assad of continuing “to inflict atrocities on the Syrian people,” but a UN special rapporteur recently detailed how US sanctions are harming ordinary Syrians.
    They don't give a shit about ordinary syrians.


    More than often, it's the smart move, to have a look at US policy and then take the opposite stand

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    They don't give a shit about ordinary syrians.
    The only thing they care is to destabilize any country in the region that could get strong enough to challenge Israel, and the US's influence in the region.
    -Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Libya and they are trying in Iran. The only two countries remaining are Egypt, and Saudi Arabia, and only because they are playing ball.
    And even in Egypt when the democratically elected Mohamed Morsi looked like he might not play ball he was removed by a US supported coup d'etat, or they would also have been "Liberated"

    The trend is clear, one has to be either blind, in denial, ar disingenuous, not to see it.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Yes, I'm well aware you lot were rooting for Al Qaeda and Isis. I guess you must share their values.
    Easy enough for you to prove - the quote function still works. Give it a try or just look like the fool you have become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    The only thing they care is to destabilize any country in the region that could get strong enough to challenge Israel, and the US's influence in the region.
    -Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Libya and they are trying in Iran.
    What a complete of tosh.

    Israel can and has done whatever it likes to keep the rabid factions of those countries in check.

    As for destabilising them, tell me you're not one of these idiots that think the US was behind the Arab Spring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    What a complete of tosh.

    Israel can and has done whatever it likes to keep the rabid factions of those countries in check.

    As for destabilising them, tell me you're not one of these idiots that think the US was behind the Arab Spring?
    In the Bush years , you , Ray-reach around-Carey and Bsnot and most left wing fucks , were all rabidly anti Israel. Israel was seen as a right wing imperial project. But since Obama came along , the left wing fucks have adopted imperialism.

    You craven tosspot
    Last edited by Backspin; 08-01-2023 at 06:24 AM.

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    Yes, sadly the Democrats are the War party now- they have lost the plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Yes, sadly the Democrats are the War party now- they have lost the plot.
    This is terminally stupid even by your standards.

    *Cough*Afghanistan*cough*

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    China urges foreign troops to stop plundering of natural resources in Syria




    A Chinese official to the UN has called for the full implementation of the Security Council's resolution on the extension of Syria's cross-border humanitarian assistance, stressing that the illegal stationing and military operations of foreign troops in Syria must end and the illegal plundering of natural resources in the country by foreign troops must stop immediately.

    The UN Security Council held a briefing on the political and humanitarian situation in Syria on Wednesday. It adopted Resolution 2672 on January 9, allowing the delivery of UN cross-border aid into Syria to continue for a further six months.

    Dai Bing, China's deputy permanent representative to the UN, called on the international community to make greater efforts in the next six months to ensure that the resolution is fully and effectively implemented.

    The cross-border mechanism of humanitarian deliveries is a temporary arrangement under special circumstances and ultimately there should be a gradual and orderly transition to cross-line deliveries, Dai noted.

    China welcomes the UN's updated plan for cross-line operations in northwestern Syria, and looks forward to seeing a more significant increase in the frequency of aid operations as well as the size of convoys, Dai said.

    "Cross-line rescues for the Rukban refugee camp in southeastern Syria should be resumed as soon as possible," said Dai.

    Dai added that unilateral sanctions and the resulting over-compliance run counter to the efforts of the Security Council and the wider international community to improve humanitarian access and increase humanitarian resources in Syria.

    "China once again calls on relevant countries to immediately and fully lift unilateral sanctions against Syria," he said.

    Dai pointed out that the current counter-terrorism situation in Syria is still complicated. The international community should adopt unified standards in accordance with international law and UN Security Council resolutions, strike at all terrorist forces in Syria with a zero-tolerance attitude and stop conniving, shielding and politically utilizing terrorist forces.

    The sovereignty and territorial integrity of Syria must be effectively respected. The illegal stationing and military operations of foreign troops in Syria must end, and the illegal plundering of natural resources in Syria by foreign troops must stop immediately, Dai noted.

    US military forces in Syria have been slammed for stealing oil shipments from the war-ravaged country. After entering Syria in 2014, the US forces, under the pretext of fighting terrorist groups, have established military bases in oil-rich areas in northeastern and eastern Syria and started the systematic theft of Syrian oil.

    In mid-January, Syrian media reported that a convoy of 53 tankers was deployed to smuggle crude oil from Syria's northeastern province of Hasakah to bases in neighboring Iraq.

    The Syrian Oil Ministry said in August 2022 that the US forces were stealing 80 percent of Syria's oil production, causing direct and indirect losses of about $107.1 billion to the country's oil and gas sectors.

    Global Times

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202301/1284258.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    the illegal stationing and military operations of foreign troops in Syria must end and the illegal plundering of natural resources in the country by foreign troops must stop immediately.
    Back when it was reported that the US was going to liberate the Syrian people from the oppressive regime of Assad, and protect them from the use of chemical weapons I immediately knew where this was going, and that there won't be long until Syria stopped being a functional country.
    before everyone jumps at my throat , let me say that I have no doubt that the Assad regime was oppressive. No regime in that environment survives without some degree of oppression.
    I don't know calle crazy, But when one wants to relieve someone from a bad situation , I am sure you would all agree that one must have a better situation for them, and I am sure , you all will also agree (to put it mildly) that the current situation in Syria is not better than it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    China urges foreign troops to stop plundering of natural resources in Syria
    ..... because they want to plunder them like they do everywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Back when it was reported that the US was going to liberate the Syrian people from the oppressive regime of Assad, and protect them from the use of chemical weapons I immediately knew where this was going, and that there won't be long until Syria stopped being a functional country.
    before everyone jumps at my throat , let me say that I have no doubt that the Assad regime was oppressive. No regime in that environment survives without some degree of oppression.
    I don't know calle crazy, But when one wants to relieve someone from a bad situation , I am sure you would all agree that one must have a better situation for them, and I am sure , you all will also agree (to put it mildly) that the current situation in Syria is not better than it was.
    If it was "a lot better" you wouldn't have had a nationwide uprising, during the Arab Spring, after Assad tortured a few kids for spraying graffiti and then shot their parents after they protested it, leading to a nationwide rebellion that would have ousted him without Putin backing him.

    When the country really went to shit was when Assad and Putin bombed the shit out of every Sunni area until it had killed enough people to quiet things down.

    Let's not forget Assad's father was pretty handy at executing civilians who dared to challenge his despotic rule. When you say the situation is "not better than it was", the families of the people executed and bulldozed over in Hama in 1982 might choose to disagree for example.
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    Assad the Optometrist is not his Father. But he still beat the insurrection, and Syria is not an Islamic caliphate. Hurrah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If it was "a lot better" you wouldn't have had a nationwide uprising, during the Arab Spring, after Assad tortured a few kids for spraying graffiti and then shot their parents after they protested it, leading to a nationwide rebellion that would have ousted him without Putin backing him.
    The Syrian refugee issue seems to indicate otherwise.


    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    When the country really went to shit was when Assad and Putin bombed the shit out of every Sunni area until it had killed enough people to quiet things down.
    If that was the case then we should has led with that rather than the chemical weapons claim.

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    Harry's a sore loser. So is the USA.

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    Hands off Syria.
    Regarding everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Hands off Syria.
    Regarding everyone.

    That's what should have happened in the first place. Assad would be in a Tehran villa by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    The Syrian refugee issue seems to indicate otherwise.
    That makes absolutely no sense.

    If that was the case then we should has led with that rather than the chemical weapons claim.
    Led with Assad and Putin bombing civilians?

    What on earth are you on about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Assad the Optometrist is not his Father.
    No, he needed Putin's help massacring civilians, you're quite right.

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    Thank goodness there are still Christians, Assyrians, Shiites, Druze & Sunni and several other sects and faiths in Syria still freely practising their religion, and not burning, raping, enslaving or crucifying each other. The Assad regime, assisted by Iran and Russia, was their saviour. Just ask those poor Yazidi, massacred, raped and sold into slavery by those Isil barbarians.

    And this is what you support. How sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Thank goodness there are still Christians, Assyrians, Shiites, Druze & Sunni and several other sects and faiths in Syria still freely practising their religion, and not burning, raping, enslaving or crucifying each other. The Assad regime, assisted by Iran and Russia, was their saviour. Just ask those poor Yazidi, massacred, raped and sold into slavery by those Isil barbarians.

    And this is what you support. How sad.
    No, it isn't what I support, and only a saddo like you would make such a claim.

    Of course if Putin hadn't put down the rebellion, the likes of IS would never have got the chance to propagate, but you of course will accept any atrocities or war crimes if your hero commits them.
    Last edited by harrybarracuda; 27-01-2023 at 11:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That makes absolutely no sense.
    Of course it dont , otherwise you would not be having the opinion that you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Of course it dont , otherwise you would not be having the opinion that you have.
    I was rather hoping you would explain it.

    You wonder why there were so many refugees when Putin was bombing the shit out of every Sunni town and city in the country?

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    Putin was bombing the shit out of every Sunni town and city in the country?
    What a laughable assertion 'arry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I was rather hoping you would explain it.

    You wonder why there were so many refugees when Putin was bombing the shit out of every Sunni town and city in the country?
    As far as I know, there was no Syrian refugee problem before the US involvement, and there was one after.
    Obviously the situation did not improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    What a laughable assertion 'arry.
    I reallise you find Putin's war crimes amusing, you don't need to remind us for the 100th time.

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