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    Egypt pulls envoy to Syria
    DAMASCUS, Feb 19, (Agencies): Syrian security forces on Sunday flooded a tense neighbourhood where a mourner was shot dead in the largest anti-regime rally seen in Damascus, activists said, blunting calls for a “day of defiance.”
    With protesters more emboldened in Damascus after 11 months of revolt which has largely escaped the city, President Bashar al-Assad’s regime also came under regional pressure as Egypt joined other Arab League states in recalling its ambassador.
    And the top US military officer warned on Sunday that intervention in Syria would be “very difficult” and said it would be “premature” to arm the opposition movement.
    Although the security presence thwarted attempts to stage new protests in Mazzeh district, scene of a Saturday funeral that became a huge anti-regime rally, business there ground to a halt.
    Mohammed Shami, a spokesman for activists in Damascus province, said most shops were shut in Mazzeh as well as in the Barzeh, Qaboon, Kfar Sousa and Jubar districts.
    Student demonstrations had been expected in Mazzeh but security forces were stationed around schools, he said.
    “Security forces are heavily deployed throughout Mazzeh,” Shami said.
    Another activist, Abu Huzaifa from the Mazzeh Committee, said police forced the family of Samer al-Khatib, 34, who died after being shot in the neck during the mass funeral on Saturday, to bury him in a small ceremony earlier than planned, in an apparent move to prevent protests.
    Student protests however erupted after school in other areas of Damascus, including the districts of Al-Hajar Al-Aswad, Midan, Jubar and Barzeh, according to Shami.
    In central Damascus shops opened as usual, witnesses said, while state television showed live interviews from Mazzeh with people who claimed life was normal there.
    Deeb al-Dimashqi, a member of the Syrian Revolution Council based in the capital, told AFP earlier that “huge demonstrations” were expected, but added that security forces had imposed a tight clampdown.
    In a message to Damascus residents on the “Syrian Revolution 2011” Facebook page, activists said: “The blood of the martyrs exhorts you to disobedience,” after more than 6,000 deaths since anti-regime protests erupted in March, according to activist estimates.
    Activists and official media reported at least 14 people killed on Sunday.
    A “terrorist group” shot dead prosecutor Nidal Ghazal and judge Mohammed Ziyadeh and their driver in the northwestern province of Idlib, the official SANA news agency reported.
    Four people, including a student, were killed and three wounded when gunmen fired on a bus in the central province of Hama, SANA said.
    Security forces shot dead a woman when they stormed the town of Sukhna in Homs province as they hunted activists, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said in a statement.
    It also said that a man was shot dead at a checkpoint in the northern province of Aleppo.
    A lawyer was shot dead as troops stormed the town of Al-Ashara in the province of Deir Ezzor, the Syrian Observatory said.
    An army deserter was killed in Bab Sbaa in Homs, while three troopers were killed in a gunfight with deserters in Dael village in Daraa province, the southern cradle of dissent, the Observatory said.
    Meanwhile, activists said regime forces pounded the flashpoint central city of Homs for the 15th straight day.
    Sporadic shelling that targeted the Baba Amr neighbourhood in the defiant city intensified in the afternoon, at the rate of 4-5 rockets a minute, said Hadi Abdullah of the General Commission of the Syrian Revolution.
    He also said the Bab Sbaa, Bab Dreib and al-Safsafa districts were being targeted with sporadic shelling.
    Abdullah voiced fears that a new assault was imminent.
    “News has been leaked to us from army officers about a bloody attack that will burn everything in Baba Amr. We were expecting the attack two nights ago, but it could have been just delayed because of the snowstorm,” he said.
    Demonstrations took place in several towns elsewhere, including Herak in Daraa, Tayyana in Deir Ezzor, and the city of Jisr al-Shughur in Idlib, and northeastern Qamishli, according to the Local Coordination Committees, which organise protests on the ground.
    Saturday’s funerals in Damascus were for four people, including two teenagers, killed on Friday when security forces fired on protesters in Mazzeh, which houses many government offices and embassies.
    Meanwhile, General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, told CNN that Syria was the focus of competing Middle Eastern states, notably Iran and Saudi Arabia, and posed different problems for the United States than Libya did.
    “It’s premature to take a decision to arm the opposition movement in Syria because I would challenge anyone to identify for me the opposition movement in Syria at this point,” Dempsey said in an interview.
    “There’s indications that Al-Qaeda is involved and that they’re interested in supporting the opposition. I mean there’s a number of players, all of whom are trying to reinforce their particular side of this issue.
    “And until we’re a lot clearer about, you know, who they are and what they are, I think it would be premature to talk about arming them.”
    But in the latest sign that international sanctions against Assad’s regime are crippling the economy, leading Syrian businessman Faisal al-Qudsi told the BBC that foreign exchange reserves have tumbled from $22 billion (16.7 billion euros) to about $10 billion.
    Ambassador
    Egypt said Sunday it was withdrawing its ambassador to Syria, the latest Arab country to scale back its relations with the embattled regime in Damascus.
    The 11-month-old Syrian uprising began with mostly peaceful protests in a number of the country’s impoverished provinces. As security forces violently suppressed them, killing thousands, the protest grew and escalated into an increasingly armed insurrection.
    Syria has faced mounting international condemnation over its crackdown on protesters, including harsh sanctions and political isolation.
    Egypt’s decision follows moves by Tunisia, Libya, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and other Arab nations to reduce ties with Damascus.
    The Egyptian state news agency MENA said that Foreign Minister Mohammed Amr decided Sunday during a meeting with Ambassador Shukri Ismael to keep the envoy in Cairo until further notice.
    That report did not give a reason, though a report posted minutes before said such a decision could support the Syrian people.
    “Withdrawing the ambassador could happen at any time, and if we find and discover that this benefits the Syrian people, we will do it quickly,” it quoted the minister as saying.
    Iraq meanwhile, wants Syria to participate in an Arab summit that is to be held in Baghdad if it is not barred from doing so by its suspension from the Arab League, the Iraqi premier said in an interview.
    Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been carrying out a bloody crackdown on an uprising against his rule, in which over 6,000 people have been killed since March 2011.
    Member states voted in November to suspend Syria’s participation in the Arab League over the violence.
    “We hope that all the Arab leaders will participate in the summit,” which is to take place in late March, Nuri al-Maliki said in an interview with Al-Rashid television that was broadcast on Saturday night.
    “We prefer that there will be participation (by Syria), because it opens a page of dialogue away from interference and sectarian atmospheres, and because there is no benefit to anyone if the situation in Syria gets worse,” Maliki said.
    But, if the Arab League suspension bars Syrian participation in the summit, Iraq will abide by that decision, Maliki said.
    Peace
    There is still hope that the Syrian crisis can be resolved peacefully through talks, as any armed intervention will only spread turmoil through the region, China’s official Xinhua news agency said on Sunday after a Chinese envoy visited Syria.
    China and Russia infuriated Western and Arab states this month by blocking a draft UN Security Council resolution that backed an Arab plan urging Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to quit amid his government’s violent crackdown on opposition protests.
    Stung by the criticism, China has since sent envoys to the region to seek a diplomatic solution, including Vice Foreign Minister Zhai Jun, who met Assad in Damascus on Saturday and backed his plans for a referendum and multi-party elections.
    “China believes, as many others do, there is still hope the Syria crisis can be resolved through peaceful dialogue between the opposition and the government, contrary to some Western countries’ argument that time is running out for talks in Syria,” Xinhua said in an English-language commentary.
    “Among Syria’s assorted opposition groups, some have voiced a willingness to hold dialogue with the Syrian government and also warned those seeking outside intervention against becoming a tool of the West,” it added.
    “However, their calls for peaceful inter-Syrian dialogue have been largely ignored, intentionally or unintentionally, in Western media reports, which convey the wrong impression that there is an overwhelming consensus among different factions of the opposition forces that they want foreign intervention in their country.”
    Assad announced his plan on Wednesday for a referendum on a new constitution on Feb. 26 followed by a multi-party election. The Syrian opposition and the West dismissed it as sham.
    China and Russia have been Assad’s most important international defenders during the crackdown which has killed several thousand people and divided world powers. The United Nations, the United States, Europe, Turkey and Arab powers want Assad to step down and have condemned the repression.
    Zhai also met opposition groups while he was in Syria.
    Vote
    The Philippines says it did not take part in a UN vote on a resolution calling on Syrian leader Bashar Assad to step down as it seeks Syria’s help in moving Filipinos from the troubled nation.
    The UN General Assembly voted overwhelmingly Thursday for a resolution backing an Arab League plan calling on Assad to step down and strongly condemning human rights violations by his regime, which has been blamed for a bloody crackdown that has killed over 5,400 people.
    Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said Sunday that the Philippines’ main concern was to repatriate thousands of Filipinos in Syria through the help of its government.
    Nearly 1,000 Filipino workers have fled from Syria and thousands more remain there.
    Libya
    Libya has sent military forces to stem clashes between rival tribes over control of territory in the far southeast of Libya, the armed forces chief said on Saturday, as more people were reported killed in the violence.
    Clashes broke out late last week in the remote city of Al Kufra and have continued since, highlighting the challenge of policing the sparsely populated desert. Dozens of people have been killed, the tribes have said.
    Libya’s ruling National Transitional Council has struggled to assert its authority across the whole of Libya as rival regional militias and tribal groups jostle for power and resources following the fall of Muammar Gaddafi.
    Gunmen from the Zwai tribe have been clashing with fighters from the Tibu ethnic group led by Isa Abdel Majid, who they accuse of attacking Al Kufra backed by mercenaries from Chad, according to a security official from the Zwai tribe.
    The Tibu, however, said they were the ones to come under attack.
    Speaking by telephone on Libyan state television, armed forces chief Yousef al-Mangoush denied there was any foreign presence in the area and urged elders from both sides to meet.
    “This is a problem between two tribes, which stems from the past. It is not an ethnic problem,” he said. “Military forces are now on the ground there.”
    In a text message to Reuters, Adelbari Idriss, a security official from the Zwai tribe, said two people were killed and seven injured in clashes in the city on Saturday. Separately, he said the Zwai had stopped two cars carrying Chadian men.
    It was not immediately possible to independently verify his comments nor contact officials from the Tibu side.
    The Tibu are mainly found in Chad but also inhabit parts of southern Libya, Sudan and Niger, often criss-crossing unmarked desert borders. Abdel Majid’s men supported the Libyan rebels during the 2011 uprising that ousted Gaddafi.
    In Al Kufra, tribal ties are far more powerful than they are on the country’s Mediterranean seaboard. A tribal rebellion in 2009 was suppressed only after Gaddafi sent in helicopter gunships. The remote region is also a hub for smugglers taking advantage of the lawless borders of sub-Saharan Africa.
    The province surrounding Al Kufra is Libya’s largest and borders Sudan and Chad. The roads in the region are poor, and some reports said the airport was out of use due to the fighting, possibly holding up any aid.
    Libya’s government will give each family more than $1,500 and pay unemployed former rebels who fought in the war that ousted Muammar Gaddafi last year, the prime minister said, in an attempt to win over those who want faster progress.
    In a televised address a day after Libya marked the first anniversary of the start of the uprising, Abdurrahim El-Keib said families whose relatives were killed or were still missing would receive monthly aid but did not specify the amount.
    “The government has decided that each Libyan family will receive 2,000 dinars ($1,540),” he said.
    He said jobless former fighters would receive payment for the past year until the end of the month. He said students would also receive financial grants but did not say how much.
    The transitional government appointed in November is leading Libya towards elections in June but is struggling to restore services and impose order on a country awash with weapons.
    Together with the self-appointed National Transition Council (NTC), it has been praised for getting many of the ministries up and running and, notably, for drafting an election law for the Libya’s first free polls.
    But many Libyans thought progress would be faster, and the Defence Ministry and the Interior Ministry are failing to incorporate disparate militias into a police force and an army.
    These groups fought hard in the campaign to topple Gaddafi but still refuse to hand in their weapons.
    El-Keib reiterated government calls for these fighters to join the national police and security forces.
    Yemen
    President Barack Obama threw his support behind Yemen’s Vice President just days before an election expected to enshrine him as the new leader of a country the US sees as crucial to the fight against al-Qaeda.
    Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, read the text of the letter to reporters Sunday after delivering it to Vice President Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi during a two-day visit to the troubled Gulf Arab nation.
    Yemen, the Arab’s world’s poorest country, has been torn apart during a year-old uprising seeking to oust longtime autocratic President Ali Abdullah Saleh. Saleh’s security forces have used lethal force against demonstrators, killing hundreds, and many others have died in armed clashes with security forces.
    Yemen’s active al-Qaeda branch, which has carried out attacks in the US, has exploited the unrest to seize territory in the country’s south. The US has long considered Saleh a necessary but unreliable ally in the fight against the al-Qaeda branch, and has been actively involved in brokering a deal to ease the crisis.
    Under a deal presented by Yemen’s powerful Gulf Arab neighbors, Hadi is to be rubber stamped as the country’s new leader in presidential elections Tuesday. He is the only candidate.
    In the letter, Obama said he looks forward to deeper relations between the two countries and vows that the US will be “a strong and reliable partner.”
    He also said he hoped Yemen’s political transformation would inspire other Middle East nations facing political transitions.
    “I know you face challenges ahead, but I am optimistic that Yemen can emerge as a model for how peaceful transition in the Middle East can occur when people resist violence and unite under a common cause,” he said.
    Brennan met with Hadi during his two-day visit to Yemen that ended Sunday.
    Speaking to reporters, Brennan said the US looked forward to cooperating with Yemen to fight al-Qaeda and spoke of the massive reforms needed. He criticized leaders in the security apparatus who have used forces under their command for personal gain.
    As for Saleh, who is currently in the US for medical treatment, Brennan said he expected Saleh to return to Yemen after the election. US officials have said that while Saleh’s US visit is solely medical, they hope his absence from Yemen will ease the transition.
    Many in Yemen worry that Saleh, who has ruled for 33 years through a mix of shrewd politics and brute force, will continue to influence Yemeni politics through his many relatives and allies he has placed in high positions.
    Speaking of Saleh’s future, Brennan said he would have no official role in government.
    “Ali Abdullah after the election will be a private Yemeni citizen, and his future is something that he and his family will need to determine,” he said.
    Three soldiers were wounded in a clash with southern separatists near a polling booth in Lahij province on Sunday, two days ahead of Yemen’s presidential election, a government official said.
    “Gunmen from the Southern Movement attacked military vehicles carrying ballot boxes to a polling booth in a school” near Al-Anad air base in Lahij, the official told AFP. “Three soldiers were wounded in an exchange of fire.”
    A faction of the Southern Movement has called for a day of “civil disobedience” on Tuesday when Yemenis are to vote for Vice-President Abdrabuh Mansur Hadi, the sole candidate, to replace outgoing President Ali Abdullah Saleh.
    It urged supporters to rally in the main southern city of Aden on Monday to “demand the freedom and independence” of the south.
    Other members of the Southern Movement, who say the poll fails to meet their aspirations for autonomy or southern independence, have been campaigning for a boycott.
    On Friday, three civilians were wounded as southern militants traded fire with police outside a polling station, residents said.
    Morocco
    A few thousand people gathered Sunday in Morocco’s cities to mark the one year anniversary of the North African kingdom’s local version of the Arab Spring uprisings.
    The modest turnout was in sharp contrast to the tens of thousands that once flocked to the February 20th movement’s banner early last year.
    About 1,000 people turned out for a sit-in at Casablanca’s main square. In the capital Rabat, at least 1,500 marched through the center of town chanting slogans and singing songs.
    The demonstrations last year prompted the king to amend the constitution to curtail is powers and hold early elections, which were won by an Islamist opposition party promising reforms. Since then, demonstrations petered out.
    Activists say many of their demands remain unmet, including fighting corruption, releasing prisoners of conscience and decreasing the absolute power of the king.
    While activists in Casablanca acknowledged that their numbers were down, they pointed out that a protest such as this, filled with young people, would have been unthinkable a year ago.
    “It is not bad to be able to do a sit-in for two days and discuss issues in the open air,” said Larbi Menouzi, who has attended nearly every one of the weekly demonstrations held in Casablanca for the past year.
    The main square of Morocco’s largest city, flanked by the central bank, city hall and main post office, was filled with people enjoying a sunny winter’s day, along with the knot of protesters, a few dozen of whom spent the night on the square in tents.
    Banners above their tents demanded the new parliament be dissolved, those stealing public money be prosecuted and all prisoners of conscience be released.
    Activists say the sit-in will continue until their demands are met, a conscious echo of the sit-in at Cairo’s Tahrir Square at the center of Egypt’s uprising.
    “Before people were too scared to speak and now they do. The February 20 movement has been a catalyst and people are now mobilized everywhere,” Souad Guennon said.
    Placards and photos around the square testified to the breadth of movements across the country, describing striking villagers at a distant silver mine, residents bulldozed out of informal housing and clashes with police in a mountain town.
    Omar Radi, an activist with movement, took heart in the turnout in Rabat, which was higher than it had been in months, though still far below the large demonstrations that characterized its early days.
    “This is the biggest demonstration in Rabat in a while, which gives us hope,” he said activists chanted around him. “Like all movements, this has had its ups and downs, but the spirit of the February 20th is all over the country.”
    The New York-based Human Rights Watch, meanwhile, condemned the trial of activists of the February 20th movement arrested for advocating a boycott of the Nov 25 elections.

    Rebels kill two of the judiciary


    February 20, 2012 at 1:00 am
    Gunmen ambush, kill 2 judicial officials in Syria

    • By Brian Murphyand Bassem Mroue
    • Associated Press



    A video shows Syrians protesting in Damascus on Sunday. Meanwhile, Egypt withdrew its ambassador. (YouTube / Getty Images)


    Beirut— Gunmen in Syria staged a guerrilla-style ambush that killed a senior state prosecutor and a judge Sunday in an attack that suggested armed factions are growing bolder and more coordinated in their uprising against President Bashar Assad's regime.
    The roadway slayings — reported in an opposition-dominated northern region by the Syrian state news agency — came a day after a deadly hit-and-run attack on a political figure in the heart of the pro-Assad city of Aleppo.
    The targeted killings have not reached Assad's inner circle, but they indicate a growing shift toward violent tactics by the opposition as it brings aboard more military defectors and seeks to tighten control over the small pieces of territory in its hands.
    The fears of a looming civil war have neighboring Jordan racing to finish a refugee camp near the Syrian border to handle a possible exodus of people fleeing for safety.
    Meanwhile, Egypt became the latest Arab nation to publicly snub Assad by ordering the withdrawal of its ambassador in Damascus.
    The Syrian government has offered some concessions, including proposing a referendum next week that could allow more political voices to challenge Assad's Baath Party. But the opposition demands Assad's resignation. And the regime has not eased off its attacks on the opposition forces, which it describes as "terrorists" carrying out a foreign conspiracy to destabilize the country.
    In Homs in central Syria, government forces sent in reinforcements as they shelled the rebel-held Baba Amr district that has been under near constant barrage for nearly two weeks, said the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. The group said at least 14 people were killed Sunday across Syria, half of them by government troops.
    "I'm worried that Syria is going to slide into a civil war," British Foreign Secretary William Hague told the BBC on Sunday.
    The U.N. last gave a death toll for the conflict in January, saying 5,400 people had been killed in 2011 alone. But hundreds more have been killed since, according to activist groups. An opposition group, Local Coordination Committees, says more than 7,300 have been killed since the uprising began more than 11 months ago.
    There is no way to independently verify the numbers, since Syria bans almost all foreign journalists and human rights organizations.

    A Reuters report
    which pretty much rules out Libya-style intervention.

    US' Dempsey says intervention would be very difficult

    By
    • Reuters

    Published Monday, February 20, 2012

    The United States, Europe, Turkey and Gulf-led Arab states have all demanded Assad quit power.
    The West has ruled out any Libya-style military intervention but the Arab League, spearheaded by Saudi Arabia, has indicated some of its member states were prepared to arm the opposition, which includes the rebel Free Syrian Army.
    British Foreign Minister William Hague reiterated that view on Sunday, telling the BBC: "We cannot intervene in the way we did in Libya. ... We will do many other things."
    "I am worried that Syria is going to slide into a civil war and that our powers to do something about it are very constrained because, as everyone has seen, we have not been able to pass a resolution at the UN Security Council because of Russian and Chinese opposition."
    In Washington the top US military officer, General Martin Dempsey, said intervening in Syria would be "very difficult" because it was not another Libya.
    "It would be a big mistake to think of this as another Libya," Dempsey, chairman of the US military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in an interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria.
    Syria's army is "very capable," with a sophisticated, integrated air defense system and chemical and biological weapons, Dempsey said.
    He also thought it was premature to arm the opposition movement in Syria, because "I would challenge anyone to clearly identify for me the opposition movement in Syria at this point."
    CATCH-22
    Leading Syrian businessman, Faisal al-Qudsi, said the government was slowly disintegrating and sanctions were ruining Syria's economy.
    He told the BBC in London military action could only last six months but Assad's government would fight to the end.
    "The army is getting tired and will go nowhere," he said.
    "They will have to sit and talk or at least they have to stop killing. And the minute they stop killing, more millions of people will be on the streets. So they are in a Catch-22."
    Qudsi, who was involved in Syria's economic liberalization, told the BBC the apparatus of government was almost non-existent in trouble spots like Homs, Idlib and Deraa.
    The opposition Local Coordination Committees said security forces killed 14 people in Damascus and other parts of the country on Saturday, including five in the opposition stronghold of Homs. None of the figures could be verified independently.
    Government forces bombarded Homs again on Sunday. The western city, strategically sited on the road between Damascus and commercial hub Aleppo, has been under siege for more than two weeks and a humanitarian crisis is unfolding as food and medical supplies to treat the wounded are running short.
    Rockets, artillery and sniper fire have killed several hundred people, according to activists' reports, but security forces have held back from a full invasion of opposition held districts. Residents fear a bloodbath should that take place.
    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the attorney general for Idlib province, Nidal Gazal, a judge and their driver were all killed on Sunday morning when unidentified gunmen shot at their car.

    A day in the life of a young Syrian protestor

    Young Syrians despair over unemployment and fear of death

    By Mayte Carrasco Feb 20, 2012, 2:06 GMT


    Al-Qusayr, Syria - After almost a year of unremitting dying around him, Mahmoun, a 24-old Syrian, often thinks about his own death.
    In an improvised cemetery in the town of al-Qusayr, where he lives, he points at a fresh hole in the ground.
    'This one is mine,' he says, smiling nervously. 'I'm going to put a plank on top of it so nobody takes it. I am sure I will be the next martyr, so I want to reserve it for myself,' he says.
    The ever-present fear is taking its toll on the residents of Syrian localities resisting the repressive rule of President Bashar al-Assad. The best-known of such bastions is Homs, about 30 kilometres to the north of al-Qusayr.
    In the evening, Mahmoun opens his computer, watching images of the wounded in a makeshift clinic. Men and women have clustered around a motionless body. Children are heard crying.
    The laptop has just a little battery life left, there is no electricity, and the internet connection is down in any case, so Mahmoun will not be able to transmit the images to supporters of the Syrian rebel movement.
    The sounds of anguish and despair coming from the computer have turned into the soundtrack of Mahmoun's life over the past 10 months.
    The young man's family is on a regime blacklist and he is becoming accustomed to the idea that he will not live long. When he is around town, he now takes the shortest route home, even though he knows there are snipers on the rooftops nearby.
    'I am sick of taking detours,' Mahmoun says. He walks slowly, as if challenging the snipers to target him.
    Syrians have got used to living with violence since protests against the regime erupted in March 2011. Dodging bombs and snipers has become a daily routine for many.
    A 25-year-old electrician relates how he donated blood to his friend Hasem before he died. 'Now he's in paradise. I believe my blood is already there and that I will soon follow it,' he says.
    Thoughts of death are never far away. These largely unemployed young men spend much of their time going to funerals, when they are not participating in the frequent anti-government demonstrations.
    'There is nothing to do,' says Moamer, a 23-year-old who has joined the anti-government Free Syrian Army. 'The conditions for joining were having completed my military service and owning a weapon, but because I didn't have enough money for that, they gave me a Kalashnikov.'
    He recently led prayers at the funeral of three of his comrades who had been abducted by militiamen loyal to the regime a few days earlier. Their bodies, showing signs of torture, were found on the street.
    The violence has caused the deaths of 85 people since the unrest began. The town's most important economic sector, apple growing, has come to a virtual standstill. One of the main cool rooms for the fruit has been turned into a mortuary.
    Only a few shops remain open in the streets, some of which have been taken under control by the Free Syrian Army. About 400 government troops are also present in al-Qusayr.
    Yet despite all the violence, there are shimmers of hope. Shaura - revolution - was born this week. 'I went into labour, but was unable to go to hospital,' his mother says.
    The main hospital is under the control of the government forces. 'My mother took me to a clinic hidden in a house and the little fellow was born there,' she says, declining to give her name.
    Shaura and his mother are now doing well at home with her husband and four other children.
    The Scotsman weighs in with an article about Assad's militia.

    The packs of armed thugs who terrorise Syria’s streets

    Bashar al-Assad: still battling to maintain power. Picture: Getty


    Published on Monday 20 February 2012 01:16

    The prisoners lay in a row, their cheeks pressed to the concrete and their hands tied behind their backs as the five armed men milled around them on the street. A youth in a military issue bullet proof vest, jeans and trainers beat a screaming captive repeatedly with his cane: “You are a revolutionary rat aren’t you? You son of a bitch!” The onlookers laughed.
    As president Bashar al-Assad continues his violent struggle to retain power, bands of his paramilitaries are running wild on the streets of Damascus. Carrying out executions, drive-by shootings, theft and sectarian attacks with lawless abandon, it is these men, the Shabiha – the “ghosts” – that residents say they most fear.
    “They have weapons and a licence to kill,” said Omar al-Khani of the Syrian Revolution Co-ordinators Union. “The government brings these gangs to protests. They give them military uniforms and identity cards calling them riot police.”
    In March of last year the Syrian regime hired unemployed youths, school drop-outs and former criminals as extra manpower to help deal with the burgeoning anti-government demonstrations across the country. They were armed, and paid a daily rate of 2000 Syrian pounds (Ł22), explained Mr Khani.
    Outside of demonstrations, the men can be seen on the streets of Damascus. Gangs of Shabiha are terrorising the neighbourhood of Moaddemiya in the city, residents told The Scotsman this weekend.
    “They imprisoned Nasser Serir, a peace activist, for six months. Five days after he was released, a gang broke into his home and shot him in front of his children and his mother. They pushed his body from the balcony of the second floor apartment,” said “Obeida”, a middle-aged woman.
    The day before, a group had arrested her 60-year-old father, said Bola, a student in the group. Insisting that he had never before been to an anti-government protest, she said she could not fathom why he was taken. “He was leaving the mosque after praying. He is a peaceful man, he is frightened of the security forces,” she said. “They do what they want. They arrested a traffic policeman too, just because he is from Idlib, a town that is rebelling now.”
    After taking her father captive, the group stole the family car said Bola. They drove it fast through the streets, swerving round corners, and firing their guns into the air.
    Residents report near random house raids by opportunistic groups of Shabiha, looting with impunity. Whilst Bola and her brothers moved away from home, fearing a follow up to their father’s arrest, their mother had decided to remain and keep watch on her home. “Maybe if she is there, she can stop them from trashing and stealing our possessions,” said Bola.
    Derived from the Arabic for “ghost”, the word Shabiha has come to mean “thugs” in modern day Syria. It reportedly first entered the lexicon of the Syrian uprising after a government crackdown was launched in the port city of Latakia, where a notorious mafia-like crime syndicate called Shabiha has existed for decades.
    And the Irish Times contends that the uprising will fail.

    The Irish Times - Monday, February 20, 2012Uprising will fail but leave lasting divisions, analysts say

    MICHAEL JANSEN
    THE STALEMATE in the power struggle in Syria has pushed the government to escalate its crackdown on rebel-held areas while making the rebels ever more determined to hold on. And it has prompted the Arab League and its western backers to announce financial and material assistance for insurgents.
    Their announcement, however, was misleading. For several months now money and arms have been flowing semi-clandestinely to local militias and the “Free Syrian Army”, composed of army deserters.
    Insurgents are, reportedly, being provided with modern weapons and night-vision and communications equipment, and are being reinforced by veteran fighters from Iraq and Libya, some with al-Qaeda connections.
    Arming insurgents is certain to prolong the conflict in Syria and is already transforming what had been campaigning to topple the regime by means of mass protest into a full-scale civil war that could engulf neighbouring Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan, and destablise Turkey.
    Government supporters argue the rebellion will be defeated, but not until a great deal of blood is shed and the economy destroyed.
    One veteran commentator said, “The last time we fought the Muslim Brotherhood [1978-82], it took four years to end the rebellion. This time, the situation is much worse. It could take longer.” Another analyst said the damage to the economy will be great, but “the damage to relations between communities may never be repaired”.
    Secular, Christian and heterodox Shia Alawite Syrians fear their country will become a wasteland like Iraq, ruled by a sectarian Sunni regime rather than a a sectarian Shia one, as in Iraq. They argue Arab Spring uprisings have been hijacked by the well-organised Muslim Brotherhood and ultraorthodox Salafis. The latter adhere to the puritanical Wahhabism practised in Saudi Arabia, the font and financier of militant Sunni fundamentalism.
    The struggle in Syria is a struggle for the heartland of the “Mashriq”, the eastern Arab world, seriously weakened by the absence of Iraq since the 2003 US invasion and occupation. In spite of Syria’s authoritarianism, brutality and corruption, secular liberal Arab observers insist the regime must be permitted to facilitate the transition to multiparty rule. They argue that since there is no obvious successor to the regime, current structures must remain in place if Syria is to avoid the anarchy and chaos, murder and mayhem that still afflict Iraq.
    The struggle for Syria is becoming increasingly polarised between East and West, with Russia and China supporting the regime and the US and Europe the opposition.
    Russia is defending its long-term interests; China seeks to preserve the principle of nonintervention by outsiders in the internal affairs of countries plagued with unrest. Both Russia and China face dissident minorities and subject peoples within their vast territories.
    Russia’s regional influence began to diminish in the 1970s after the leading Arab power, Egypt, under president Anwar Sadat, turned towards the West and broke with Arab ranks by making peace with Israel.
    Syria, a contender for Arab leadership, became Russia’s sole regional ally, bought Russian arms and granted it a port to service its Mediterranean fleet. Since the US occupation of Iraq, both Russia and China have lost potentially lucrative oil- exploration contracts in Iraq and have had only marginal regional roles. Arab analysts believe the primary target of the US, the main mover of the western campaign to oust Syria’s rulers, is Syria’s ally, Tehran. Washington is currently stepping up economic sanctions and threatening military action if Iran does not abandon its nuclear programme. US and Arab regional experts argue ousting the Syrian regime would diminish Tehran’s regional clout and, perhaps, make it more susceptible to pressure to halt its nuclear programme. The US and its allies say Tehran’s objective is to make weapons, although Iran denies this accusation, saying it has not yet shifted from enriching uranium for nuclear power generation to building bombs.
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    NY Times suggests non-violent protest. I can't really see people putting their hands up and waiting to be shot.

    Few Good Options for Syrian Opposition

    By HUGO DIXON | REUTERS

    Published: February 19, 2012

    When the Syrian revolution began, the activists employed almost entirely nonviolent tactics. They also rejected the idea of foreign intervention.
    Nearly a year later, the revolution’s character has changed. There are still protests, boycotts, strikes and funeral marches. But the opposition’s main strategy for overthrowing Bashar al-Assad’s regime has become one of outmuscling it. To achieve that, it is calling for military help from abroad — a request that will be pressed when Friends of Syria, a contact group of mainly Arab and Western countries, meets in Tunis this week.
    The switch in strategy is understandable, though regrettable. The endless killing and torture have taken their toll. Homs, Hama and several other cities are being bombarded by Mr. Assad’s forces in what look like medieval sieges and could have similar grisly outcomes. The people worry they will be massacred if they do not take up arms to defend themselves. Meanwhile, they have seen how foreign military intervention in Libya tipped the balance there and got rid of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.
    The Assad regime probably likes the fact that the opposition has embraced armed struggle. This solidifies its support among its core constituency — the Alawites, who represent about 10 percent of the population — as well as other minorities like Christians. The regime can argue it has to hit back hard, otherwise it will be massacred.
    What is more, it has seen brutality work in the past. Mr. Assad’s father survived a rebellion in Hama 30 years ago after killing around 20,000 people.
    Nonviolent struggle has about twice the chance of bringing down dictators as armed struggle, according to a study of 20th- and early 21st-century conflicts, “Why Civil Resistance Works,” by Erica Chenoweth and Maria J. Stephan. Among the many reasons, those close to the regime feel less threatened by nonviolent tactics and so are more likely to shift their allegiance, while it is easier to involve millions of people in Gandhi-style civil disobedience than in military operations.
    Outmuscling a dictator, of course, also works sometimes. Ms. Chenoweth and Ms. Stephan found that this was particularly so when foreign powers helped. The snag is that armed struggle results in more carnage than nonviolent struggle and reduces the chances that what follows the dictator will be a peaceful democracy. Involving foreign powers, meanwhile, means the revolution has to dance to those powers’ agendas.
    Such a script is playing itself out now in Syria. The conflict has increasingly descended into a sectarian civil war, pitting the majority Sunni population against the Alawites, who are an offshoot of Shiite Islam. A glance at the map shows how this could further destabilize a volatile region. Turkey and the Gulf Arab states are Sunni — and outraged by the atrocities committed against their co-religionists. Iran and, to a lesser extent, Iraq are Shiite and do not want to see their man fall.
    The West, meanwhile, is worried about the resulting effects on Israel and Iran as well as having some sympathy for a brave people being butchered. By contrast, Russia does not like the idea of autocrats being toppled, as its regime is shaky too.
    This is the context of the upcoming Friends of Syria meeting in Tunis. There are various ideas on the table, all fraught with problems. One, touted by the French, would create humanitarian corridors through which aid could be ferried to the trouble spots. The snag is that a large and sophisticated military force would be needed to blast open and protect such corridors.
    Another proposal is to create a safe zone by the Turkish border, where refugees and defecting Syrian soldiers could congregate. This could then be a base from which to launch a counterattack against Mr. Assad, in the same way that Benghazi was used against Colonel Qaddafi.
    Again, a foreign army would be needed to secure such a haven. Western powers, which have just disengaged from Iraq, do not seem to have much appetite for that. There is also the complication that Russia and China have made it clear they would veto any resolution in the U.N. Security Council authorizing military intervention.
    The rich Gulf Arab countries, led by Qatar and Saudi Arabia, may not have such qualms. But they are not in a position to field an army to match Mr. Assad’s. Their main contribution is likely to be giving the Syrian opposition money to buy arms. If enough sophisticated weapons pour into the country, Mr. Assad might eventually be toppled. But the bloodshed would be horrendous, and Syria could be left with radical Islamist gangs as Afghanistan was after the West decided to arm the mujahideen as a response to Soviet occupation in 1979.
    The least bad option would be to revert to a nonviolent struggle and support it from abroad with intensified economic sanctions in the hope that enough of Mr. Assad’s support would crumble that he could be eased out. The Syrian people would still be killed, but casualties might be kept lower if they emphasized tactics like labor strikes and boycotts rather than demonstrations, where they are out in the open and sitting ducks.
    Defecting troops would also have to be given something to do other than attack the regime. One idea is to use them to persuade even more troops to defect.
    Such an outcome does not look terribly likely. Conflicts that turn violent rarely revert to nonviolence. Probably the best known was the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, but that change in strategy took decades. Still, the other options for Syria and the region look ghastly.
    Hugo Dixon is the founder and editor of Reuters Breakingviews.

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    Meanwhile the opposition shoots itself in the foot according to the Russkies.

    Third member joins Syrian opposition club

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    Published: 19 February, 2012, 15:11
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    Syrian refugees in Lebanon carry Syrian opposition flags as they chant slogans against Syria's President Bashar al-Assad. (Reuters / Stringer)


    Opposition members in Syria have started a new political bloc, aiming to topple the country’s President Bashar al-Assad. This third anti-Assad group further fragments the Syrian opposition.
    The new National Bloc for Change, consisting of 80 prominent opposition figures, lawyers, clerics and activists, says it was created to support and coordinate the ongoing “revolution” in Syria. The group adds to the already existing Syrian National Council, based abroad, and Syria’s National Coordination Committee, operating domestically.

    “The organization came into being to support the revolution and to consolidate its principles … and to spur participation in building a future that includes all Syrians,” one of the bloc’s founders, Ammar Qarbi, was quoted by Al Arabiya television as saying.

    The bloc’s leadership said they support ‘any movement against Assad’s regime’, ‘the revolution’ and the ‘free army’.

    Once Bashar al-Assad is ousted, Syria will not be ruled by just one faction as now, another bloc’s founder, Bahiya Mardini, was quoted by the television as saying.

    The ruling Baath party has a constitutional monopoly for power in Syria. Following the popular uprising, President al-Assad’s regime proposed a new constitution, allowing a multi-party system in the country.

    The referendum for the new constitution is due to be held on February 26 but is expected to be sabotaged by the opposition groups. The National Coordination Committee was quoted by AFP news agency as saying that it is impossible for them to vote “before an end to the violence and killing.”

    Saturday saw the talks between the Syrian President and Chinese envoy Zhai Jun, who paid an official visit to the country. China, along with Russia opposes military intervention in Syria and is attempting to mediate the conflict, calling for a political settlement. Zhai Jun expressed hope that the two sides will be able to stop the bloodshed in the country and approach peaceful dialogue.
    Karl Sharro, a Middle East blogger based in London, notes the erratic nature of Western policy, particularly in US policy towards Syria.
    Speaking to RT, Sharro proposed a hypothetical dilemma: “Assume Assad were to step down tomorrow. Who’s actually the legitimate political opposition to take control? And when the West talks about supporting the Gulf States, this side or that side, who are actually the groups that you would go to and finance or give support to? So within the vacuum who would step in?
    Sharro said the West should step back and try to cool things down before they escalate out of control.

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    First Published: 2012-02-20

    DAMASCUS - Activists fear an all-out assault Monday on Homs, with Syria's embattled regime building up troops around the flashpoint city and activating a security alert in Damascus after surprise protests.
    The reported buildup comes as the top US military officer, General Martin Dempsey, warned any intervention in Syria would be "very difficult" and that it was "premature" to arm the unrest-swept country's opposition movement.
    Activists and Syrian state media reported that at least 14 people were killed on Sunday, adding to the more than 6,000 people who have died in the Syrian government's 11-month crackdown on dissent.
    "Infantry troops arrived yesterday (Sunday) in Homs," Rami Abdel Rahman, head of the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said on the phone Monday.
    A Homs-based activist voiced fears of an imminent attack on Baba Amr, the main rebel stronghold in the central city, speaking of "unprecedented military reinforcements coming from Damascus."
    "News has been leaked to us from army officers about a bloody attack that will burn everything in Baba Amr," Hadi Abdullah of the General Commission of the Syrian Revolution said on Sunday.
    "We were expecting the attack two nights ago, but it could have been just delayed because of the snowstorm," he said.
    Abdullah said regime forces pounded the defiant city for the 15th straight day on Sunday, with Baba Amr being shelled at the rate of four to five rockets a minute.
    The Homs districts Bab Sbaa, Bab Dreib and al-Safsafa were being targeted with sporadic shelling.
    Abdel Rahman was cautious about the timing of the expected attack.
    "We do not know when the attack might happen," he said.
    Meanwhile, regime forces remain on alert in Damascus after two days of large and unexpected protests, and after a call for a "day of defiance" was observed in restive neighbourhoods, according to activists.
    "Following the surprising demonstrations (on Friday and Saturday), the regime is reconsidering its security measures," in the capital, said Abdel Rahman.
    Activists reported Sunday a security clampdown on the tense neighbourhood of Mazzeh, thwarting plans to stage large protests in the area, scene Saturday of a funeral that became a huge anti-regime rally.
    The funerals were for four people, including two teenagers, killed on Friday when security forces fired on protesters in Mazzeh, which houses many government offices and embassies.
    One mourner was shot dead during Saturday's funerals, and his family was forced by police to bury him early on Sunday morning, in an apparent attempt to abort attempts to turn his funeral into a protest, activists reported.
    Mohammed Shami, a spokesman for activists in Damascus province, said on Sunday most shops were shut in Mazzeh as well as in the Barzeh, Qaboon, Kfar Sousa and Jubar districts.
    Student demonstrations had been expected in Mazzeh but security forces were stationed around schools, he said.
    But student protests erupted after school in other areas of Damascus, including the districts of Al-Hajar Al-Aswad, Midan, Jubar and Barzeh, according to Shami.
    In central Damascus shops opened as usual, witnesses said, while state television showed live interviews from Mazzeh with people who claimed life was normal there.
    Demonstrations took place in several towns elsewhere, including Herak in Daraa, Tayyana in Deir Ezzor, and the city of Jisr al-Shughur in Idlib, and northeastern Qamishli, according to the Local Coordination Committees, which organise protests on the ground.

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    Syrian Arab news agency - SANA - Syria : Syria news ::



    "Pushkov: Stability and Security in Syria Fundamental for Mideast and World Stability

    Feb 20, 2012

    DAMASCUS, (SANA)_ Aleksey Pushkov, the Chairman of the Russian Duma's International Affairs Committee, reiterated Monday Russia's support to the ongoing reforms in Syria and to the necessity of continued working as to reach to a political solution to the crisis based on dialogue among all concerned parties with no foreign interference.

    During his talks with President Bashar al-Assad here today, Pushkov reiterated Russia's rejection to foreign interference in Syria's domestic affairs, asserting the importance of stability and security in Syria as the fundamental part of stability in the Middle East and the world.

    Pushkov added that the stand of Russia stems from its keenness on commitment to the principles of international law and the realization of the interest of the Syrian people, asserting the importance that the UN Security Council should not be biased to any side when it comes to the Syrian subject."


    The referendum , on the new constitution is due on the 26th of this month and is available, to be voted on, by all the "unarmed civilians" who are eleigable -that's going to be a fun day!

    Highlights to indicate:

    1. Named sources of quotes, along with any officially recognised position of the holder
    2. A point of possible contention between the crusader coalition and the rest of the world.
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    Jumblatt scoffs at Assad's call for reform
    February 20, 2012 05:47 PM
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    In this picture released by Progressive Socialist Party media office, PSP leader Walid Jumblatt speaks during the annual general assembly gathering in Aley, Lebanon, Sunday, Oct. 30, 2011. (The Daily Star, HO)

    BEIRUT: Progressive Socialist Party (PSP) leader Walid Jumblatt has scoffed at President Bashar Assad's proposal for a referendum on a new constitution that would create a multi-party system in the country and criticize the support shown by Syria’s allies.
    “What a new innovation is it to eliminate Article 8 of the Constitution stipulating that the Baath party is the society and the state’s leading party as tens of parties will be created and will be similar to the Baath [Party] as means to fully grasp all aspects of the state, its institutions, facilities,” Jumblatt said in his weekly statement to be published Tuesday in Al-Anbaa newspaper.
    Jumblatt’s remarks Monday come after a meeting in Turkey over the weekend with Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu in Turkey, where the two agreed that a political solution was the only way to resolve the increasingly violent crisis in Syria.
    The PSP leader has repeatedly called on Assad, who is grappling with a popular uprising now in its 11th month, to end his lethal crackdown against anti-government protests.
    Rights groups estimate that over 6,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed since the uprising began.
    In his statement, he also criticized Syria’s allies, saying that they should provide Assad an exit strategy rather than support his crackdown against protesters.
    “What a new innovation to see great powers supporting this so-called theatrical play of a referendum while [these countries] provide military, intelligence, and security support for the Syrian regime ... as they repeat their rejection of foreign intervention,” he said.
    Russia, Syria’s key ally that vetoed on two occasions resolutions against Damascus, has maintained its support to Assad at various levels, including militarily.
    Instead of these countries seeking to secure an exit for the clique that has controlled Syria and its people for over four decades, we see it committed to the regime even at the expense of Syria and its future,” Jumblatt added.
    Jumblatt has asked Russia and Iran to convince Assad that the only solution to his country’s crisis is a drastic change to the ruling party.

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    ^When does the Syria crisis really start to spill over into Lebanon? That is when things will get extra interesting.

    Good to see old Walid is still going strong. Tough SOB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    ^When does the Syria crisis really start to spill over into Lebanon? That is when things will get extra interesting.

    Good to see old Walid is still going strong. Tough SOB.
    There have already been some fatal skirmishes between the pro-Alawites and the Sunni in Northern Lebanon.

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    And the random shelling of civilian areas of Homs continues...

    Is this to be Bashar's own Hama?


    21 February 2012 Last updated at 09:00 GMT

    Syria: Homs comes under heavy bombardment


    Rebel-held areas of the central Syrian city of Homs are coming under intense bombardment from the Syrian army.
    Anti-government activists report that 12 people have been killed so far on Tuesday and 100 injured. This cannot be independently confirmed.
    Activists have been warning of reinforced government forces around Homs, ahead of a ground assault on the city.
    Thousands have died there in an 11-month uprising against the government.
    Human rights groups believe more than 7,000 people have been killed since the uprising began.
    The Syrian government says at least 2,000 members of the security forces have died fighting militants.
    Monitoring events from Beirut, the BBC's Jim Muir says the bombardment is the heaviest for some days, with several shells landing every minute.
    Reports from the city say the field hospital has been hit, and pictures show tanks moving through the city.
    Our correspondent says it is unclear if the bombardment is the precursor to a much-feared ground assault on the Baba Amr district of the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    And the random shelling of civilian areas of Homs continues...
    maybe those "random" areas are where the armed militia are based

    do you think Assad would bother shelling if there were no opposing army? he would just send in the military and take over the area

    and which other world government would just stand by and let rebel soldiers take over large areas of the country

    if that happened in the US, say in Dallas, I bet "random" areas of Dallas would get shelled
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    And the random shelling of civilian areas of Homs continues...
    maybe those "random" areas are where the armed militia are based

    do you think Assad would bother shelling if there were no opposing army? he would just send in the military and take over the area

    and which other world government would just stand by and let rebel soldiers take over large areas of the country

    if that happened in the US, say in Dallas, I bet "random" areas of Dallas would get shelled
    I think the plan IS to send in the military and take over the area. He just wants to kill as many FSA, other armed opposition and dissident civilians as possible, and he is showering the whole area with rockets, tank rounds and artillery as he has been doing for the last two weeks. He doesn't give a shit who he kills. He won't stop until he's destroyed whole suburbs.

    Then, if he's anything like his dad, he'll just dig huge mass graves, bulldoze the bodies in and cover them over with the rubble.

    And they deserve this for wanting the right to choose who they elect?

    And remember: There WAS no armed opposition until he started executing civilians for protesting against his regime.

    You reap what you sow.

    Unfortunately for the Syrian people, he's got Moscow and Tehran on his side - including militarily - and no-one of any real significance against him.

    I think his Dad's 1982 total was around 30,000 so he has a way to go if he's after his record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    And they deserve this for wanting the right to choose who they elect? And remember: There WAS no armed opposition until he started executing civilians for protesting against his regime.
    I think you are believing the US propoganda machine

    It started as an armed uprising and continues as such, with arms being smuggled into the country - presumably from US sources


    as for wanting to choose who they elect, Syria is not a democracy so why would that apply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    And they deserve this for wanting the right to choose who they elect? And remember: There WAS no armed opposition until he started executing civilians for protesting against his regime.
    I think you are believing the US propoganda machine

    It started as an armed uprising and continues as such, with arms being smuggled into the country - presumably from US sources


    as for wanting to choose who they elect, Syria is not a democracy so why would that apply?
    I think you are believing the stupid conspiracy theory machine.

    It started with a few kids scrawling anti-regime graffiti and the local law totally overreacting, much like Tunisia started with an overworked fruit seller self-immolating after being slapped by some officious regime bitch.

    It has escalated into near civil war as the large majority of Syria want him gone, even if not all of them want a complete collapse of the political structure.

    And yes, they are getting arms from the Sunni as and where they can get them.

    If the goverment started shooting at me for doing nothing more than protesting, I'd want something to shoot back at the c**ts with. Wouldn't you?

    In fact I think you'll find the World Bank's assessment of the situation from 3Q11 is probably about bang on the nail:

    Country Brief

    Context
    Over the past 6 months, Syria has witnessed an unprecedented wave of protests originally sparked by the arrest of a group of youth spray painting anti-government graffiti in the rural and impoverished town of Dera’a. The regime’s forceful crack-down of the first popular protest demanding the release of these youths quickly prompted renewed demonstrations. The Syrian security forces violently dispersed the protestors. In a self-perpetuating cycle, protests were met by more Government violence, the unrest quickly spreading to other cities throughout Syria. The demonstrators progressively increased their demands, from an initial request for meaningful political reforms to an end to the Baath party regime headed by President Bashar al Assad.

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    And to add a bit more detailed to the start of the uprising in Deraa:

    It was here on March 6 that the spark that lit the Syrian uprising was struck: The arrest, detention and torture of 15 young boys for painting graffiti slogans of the Arab revolution - "As-Shaab / Yoreed / Eskaat el nizam!" "The people / want / to topple the regime!" on a wall, copying what they had seen on television news reports from Cairo and Tunis.

    The boys, aged between 10 and 15, were taken to one of the cells of the local Political Security branch, under the control of General Atef Najeeb, a cousin of President Bashar al-Assad.

    There in the gloomy interrogation room the children were beaten and bloodied, burned and had their fingernails pulled out by grown men working for a regime whose unchecked brutality appears increasingly to be sowing the seeds of its undoing.

    Human Rights Watch recently documented multiple cases of torture, including of children, among hundreds of cases of protesters arrested over the past month.

    The story of Deraa is the story of the Syrian uprising: A single incident of brutality by a lawless secret police that ignited protests, which in turn escalated in size and scope fuelled by the ever increasing numbers of people killed by security forces.


    The disappearance of Syrian citizens, even children, inside the cells of one the state’s notorious security branches might not have ordinarily been anything unusual for a people accustomed to living for half a century under emergency laws.

    But the arrested boys were from almost every large family of Deraa: The Baiazids, the Gawabras, the Masalmas and the Zoubis.

    In the largely tribal society of Syria’s south, family loyalty and honour run deep. So, after days of failing to locate the boys through official channels, the parents and families of the missing, along with local religious leaders, marched on the house of the Deraa governor Faisal Kalthoum after Friday prayers.


    The governor's security guards initially struggled to beat the protesters back before riot police were called in and used water canons and tear gas. Then armed members of Political Security turned up and opened fire on the protesters.

    "A large number of security arrived and started shooting at people and injured some of them," said Ibrahim, a relation of one of the arrested boys.

    "When the people saw the blood, they went crazy. We all belong to tribes and big families and for us blood is a very, very serious issue."

    The gathering, which had started out with around 200 people, quickly swelled to several hundred as news spread around Deraa that Political Security had opened fire.

    "We were asking in a peaceful way to release the children but their reply to us was bullets," said Ibrahim.

    "Now we can have no compromise with any security branches."

    Another relative of one of the children said he had witnessed the contempt with which General Najeeb of Political Security had treated the family delegation.

    "Security prevented the ambulances from coming to take injured people to the hospital. We will not forget that," said Mohammed, a 28-year-old who moved back to Daraa two years ago after working in Dubai.
    Since protests erupted in Deraa, Mohammed's brother-in-law has been killed and his brother injured.
    There were also unconfirmed reports that General Najeeb had taunted family members, telling them to forget about their children and go home and sleep with their wives to make some more.

    Prevented from reaching hospital, the enraged protesters took the injured to the Omari Mosque in the heart of Old Deraa.

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    Can you see the pattern here? This Syrian dissident spoke almost a year ago.

    The commanders of at least three of the 10 divisions of Syria's 240,000-strong army hail from the province as well as a significant number of senior officers, making it highly unlikely that they would engage in violence against people from their own tribal areas. Because of this, the Republican Guard, which is fiercely loyal to the President, is now in Dara'a, Ziadeh says. "The security forces have to be careful not to be too violent or to attempt to crush this, because it can easily backfire on them," he says, and in the worst-case scenario, it could lead to military defections.
    Remember the whole Arab world had seen the Tunisians complaining about lack of freedom, corruption, cronyism and so on - a common theme in all of the "Arab Spring" countries - and from one act of desperation by one individual on December 17th, it took 28 days to get rid of their unpopular leader (well less, really, he scarped to Saudi Arabia in mid-January).

    You can see why it sparked protests in Egypt, Libya, Bahrain and Yemen; it could easily have blown up in Jordan, but Abdulla was smart enough to make some major concessions and give people what they wanted.

    The big mistake the Syrians have made is that, as in Yemen, the protestors totally underestimated the level of violence that would be used by the government, but it hasn't served to scare them off; these are muslims, and dying a martyr is the best death: Assad's desperate tactics have served only to empower them.

    He's going to have to go past that 30,000 - a long way past it - for this to stop any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Is this to be Bashar's own Hama?
    Not nearly as bad as the US genocide at Fallujah, to name just one of many massacres by the crusader coalition!

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    .:Middle East Online::42 Reasons Why Susan Rice's Anger Is Unconvincing:.

    "BEIRUT -- I chuckled softly to myself last week when I followed the worldwide news coverage of how angrily US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice condemned the Russian and Chinese vetoes of the UN Security Council Resolution that sought to end the escalating conflict in Syria. The media emphasized that Susan Rice was really, really angry, as only a righteous American ambassador can be when condemning moves by other great powers to use their veto to stop collective action by the council in the service of applying the rule of law.

    She was “disgusted” by the double vetoes, and said that, "A couple of members of this council remain steadfast in their willingness to sell out the Syrian people and shield a craven tyrant."

    She is correct, of course, and we should all share her anger at the double veto, because the ongoing killings by all sides in Syria are unacceptable by any standards. We should take her position seriously because displays of public anger by ambassadors are noteworthy in themselves, and this is especially true for ambassadors of powerful countries like the United States that send their army around the world at will, usually at great cost to all involved.

    Yet I chuckle nevertheless, because I am not sure whether we should assess Ms. Rice’s outburst at the level of Russian and Chinese policy, conditions in Syria, the work of the UN Security Council, or the foreign policy consistency or duplicity of the United States. Each of these domains is significant. Yet try as I may, I cannot take Ms. Rice and the United States seriously here, because the US sets the world’s gold standard on using vetoes in the Security Council to shield criminal activity -- by Israel in particular. I am not sure if Ms. Rice and the US government think the world is stupid or merely perpetually servile to American swagger.

    The problem she has in being taken seriously is that the United States has used its veto power in the council 42 times since 1972 to kill resolutions that sought to affirm international law and stop assorted Israeli actions in the occupied Palestinian territories. Virtually every major Israeli contravention of international law, UN resolutions, and basic human decency has been shielded at one time or another by the United States through the use of the veto power -- including land expropriations, settlements expansion, murder and assassinations, respecting holy sites, attacking civilians in neighboring countries, applying the 4th Geneva Convention to occupied lands and populations, intercepting civilian aircraft, respecting UN resolutions, killing UN employees, and others.

    The latest American veto was a year ago on February 18, 2011, when Washington blocked the council’s attempt to declare all Israeli settlements activity since 1967 as illegal and to call for a halt to such construction (a full listing by resolution and votes is available athttp://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html.) In most cases, the United States alone vetoed resolutions that affirmed international law and were critical of Israel. Most recently in September-October 2011 Washington adopted a new tactic, the pre-emptive veto. It made it clear in public beforehand that it would veto a resolution at the Security Council recognizing an independent Palestinian state in the 1967 borders (regardless that the US voted for a Palestinian state in 1947).

    So what should we make of the angry and disgusted Susan Rice who does not take kindly to other big powers selling out defenseless citizens in third countries that are under military assault? Well, nothing, really. We can pretty much ignore her and her government’s public display of anger, because they lack that essential combination of consistency, sincerity and credibility that are so vital for those who wish to be taken seriously. If she is so disgusted by this veto episode, can she imagine how it feels to be at the receiving end of such actions by her government 42 times over the past four decades?

    I realize that I am not saying anything new here, but only pointing out one of many reasons why powers like the United States, the UK, Russia and others steadily find themselves with less influence around the world, regardless of their military power. The United States deserves particular criticism, though, because of the chronic nature and large scale of its diplomatic duplicity, for priding itself on being a shining example of the rule of law, and for sending its military around the world to make this clear.

    Susan Rice’s anger and disgust at the Russian-Chinese veto at the UN last week loom largely hollow and meaningless, because in reality that are a reflection more of American hubris and pride than of any credible diplomacy. This is doubly tragic because at once it neutralizes the collective power of the Security Council to be a force for peace, security and stability, and it also reduces the capacity of the United States itself to do good and be taken seriously around the world. This leaves Washington in its current dilemma of finding that across the world many of its policies, and all of its anger, elicit mainly a soft and sad chuckle."

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    Syrian Arab news agency - SANA - Syria : Syria news ::



    "MOSCOW, (SANA)_ Russia will not participate in the so-called meeting of Friends of Syria in Tunisia", Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said, asserting that his country has many questions about the meeting scheduled on February 24th.

    "Most importantly, it is unclear what the actual goal of this meeting," Lukashevich said Tuesday in a statement.

    He added "Russia has a lot of questions about the meeting which several Syrian opposition groups have been invited for, but representatives of the Syrian government have not, which means that the interest of the majority of the Syrian people who support the authorities of their country are not being represented".

    Lukashevich pointed out that Russia received an invitation to attend this meeting, but serious questions arise about it more than the understandable answers in this regard therefore, Moscow doesn't see "any possibility for participation.

    He said the meeting in Tunisia wouldn't help starting a national dialogue as its organizers claim, calling on the international community to act as friends of the entire Syrian people, and not just one part. "It looks like an attempt to form some kind of international coalition like it was with the setting-up of a 'contact group' for Libya," Lukashevich said.

    He added that according to some information, a small group of countries are preparing the final document of the meeting without knowledge of other invitees who will be asked to only stamp the already written document, saying "this raises serious questions regarding this document,"

    The Spokesman renewed his country's call on the US, Europe and the region to unify their efforts and encourage holding dialogue between representatives of the authority and opposition in Syria without preconditions and involving in the reform process."

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    what is striking is the similarity of the setup for the regime change,

    those kind of setup doesn't happen overnight, they must have been prepared for years

    all those "rebels" group seems quite well organized and armed, amazingly

    got to be facebook social exposure for bringing so many good people together so fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    ^When does the Syria crisis really start to spill over into Lebanon? That is when things will get extra interesting.

    Good to see old Walid is still going strong. Tough SOB.
    There have already been some fatal skirmishes between the pro-Alawites and the Sunni in Northern Lebanon.
    Walid is neither of those, as I know you know. If the Assad government falls it seems to me that Hezbollah's position would be much weaker. Report from today's "Daily Star:"

    The 12-month-old unrest in Syria has sharply split the Lebanese. The Future Movement led by former Prime Minister Saad Hariri and its March 14 allies [presumably including the Druze; I might have expected the Christian position to be more nuanced] staunchly support Syrian protesters demanding Assad’s removal, while the Hezbollah-led March 8 alliance backs the incumbent regime.

    Read more: THE DAILY STAR :: News :: Politics :: Lebanon won
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Is this to be Bashar's own Hama?
    Not nearly as bad as the US genocide at Fallujah, to name just one of many massacres by the crusader coalition!
    And AGAIN, I'll tell you two wrongs do not make a right.

    Do you ever actually read anything?

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    The Future Movement led by former Prime Minister Saad Hariri and its March 14 allies [presumably including the Druze; I might have expected the Christian position to be more nuanced] staunchly support Syrian protesters demanding Assad’s removal, while the Hezbollah-led March 8 alliance backs the incumbent regime.
    I think you'll find any non-Shi'a in Lebanon fucking hates Hezbollah, and Iran, and Syria. This is nothing new.

    Iran and Syrian funnel weapons to Hezbollah for their own intra-Lebanon terrorist campaigns, and the rest of Lebanon lays most of the blame on Assad for Rafic Hariri's assassination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The Future Movement led by former Prime Minister Saad Hariri and its March 14 allies [presumably including the Druze; I might have expected the Christian position to be more nuanced] staunchly support Syrian protesters demanding Assad’s removal, while the Hezbollah-led March 8 alliance backs the incumbent regime.
    I think you'll find any non-Shi'a in Lebanon fucking hates Hezbollah, and Iran, and Syria. This is nothing new.
    Right, but in Syria the Christians seem to get a better deal from the Baathist/Allawites (insert crack about "crusader coalition" here), so I was kind of wondering where their sympathies lie in Lebanon. I took a look at the "Spooks 'R' Us" and Wiki sites for a breakdown of Lebanese political parties, and it looks like the Christians are all over the map. Apparently Jumblatt himself has sent mixed signals:
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/le.html
    List of political parties in Lebanon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Looks like it's plus ca change in Lebanon- guess and there's a good chance you'll guess wrong. Hope it doesn't blow up again. They should be tired of civil war by now, but that might not matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Iran and Syrian funnel weapons to Hezbollah for their own intra-Lebanon terrorist campaigns, and the rest of Lebanon lays most of the blame on Assad for Rafic Hariri's assassination.
    Well, if the shoe fits. Of course, Hezbollah blames the Mossad. I think it was Thaksin.

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    It's actually so absurd in Homs that the Alawites there, who previously lived quite harmoniously with the Sunni, came out and condemned Assad and told him to stop shelling the Sunni from their neighbourhoods.

    Not that the c**t listened, of course. That's his problem.

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    8.55am: Two foreign journalists have been killed in Homs today, according to an unconfirmed report from al-Jazeera citing activists in the city.
    It says one American and one French journalist were with activists in a building which was shelled this morning. A photographer was reportely injured.

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