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  1. No PH- very untrue. Tibet & Burma- Major world...

    No PH- very untrue.

    Tibet & Burma- Major world empires?? :rofl:

    Russia- unexpansionist? Ever heard of the Iron Curtain?

    India- u'mmm, the Mughals. Countless millions died in "Indian" wars,...
  2. Nonsense TC, I cannot remember any major world...

    Nonsense TC, I cannot remember any major world empire in history that has been so little expansionist, and unaggressive. Still got dem reds unda da bed i see.

    Incidentally, the USA and UN...
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    To go back to a previous point I made, the World...

    To go back to a previous point I made, the World order is governed far more now by Trade links and Diplomacy than Military arsenals. The sub deal- well big deal, except when the aussie taxpayer...
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    And avoiding an arms race. I can understand...

    And avoiding an arms race.

    I can understand the rise of China being a Disrupter to the 'Old guard', but how many countries have they invaded and how many people have they killed through military...
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    GT Voice: Asian nations beware of AUKUS’ trap of arms race

    The new submarine deal in which the US and the UK pledge to help Australia build a fleet of eight nuclear-powered submarines, has sparked an intense backlash in France and across the EU.

    The way...
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    I hope the UK doesn't run out of laughing gas..

    I hope the UK doesn't run out of laughing gas..
  7. I suppose we can overlook the drugs, but...

    I suppose we can overlook the drugs, but smuggling that amount of KFC is unforgivable.
  8. Oh, so they must have all voted for Putin then-...

    Oh, so they must have all voted for Putin then- their Saviour from the Ukrainian furnace. :)
  9. Good stuff. Paying for a decent bottle of vino in...

    Good stuff. Paying for a decent bottle of vino in Los is painful. Here, you can get cheap but OK stuff cheaper than drinking the equivalent in beer.
  10. ^^ No, monkeybrains. Someone has to try and make...

    ^^ No, monkeybrains. Someone has to try and make up for your dearth of grey matter.:chitown:
  11. Did Lehman? Did Enron? The S&L crisis? Na- just...

    Did Lehman? Did Enron? The S&L crisis? Na- just another big property developer going bust.
  12. Jenkins makes a very good point actually- ...

    Jenkins makes a very good point actually-




    When living in the Darkside, I became a friend of one of the very first generation of ROV operators. A huge growth industry, with rapid...
  13. I wonder how Crimea voted. :chitown:

    I wonder how Crimea voted. :chitown:
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    Make voting machines, not guns 'arry. :)

    Make voting machines, not guns 'arry. :)
  15. I remember on these same pages around 2007,...

    I remember on these same pages around 2007, telling people about the projected rise of China, and what was actually happening there- from first hand observation. Few believed it, most believed China...
  16. India and Indonesia, +20 years- and they also...

    India and Indonesia, +20 years- and they also enter the equation. It's a happening place!
  17. From where I sit, some kind of military &...

    From where I sit, some kind of military & strategic parity is no bad thing. Keeps the bastards honest (whoever They might be).
  18. Well, we convicts have certainly chosen our...

    Well, we convicts have certainly chosen our Masters for now! Same as the Old Boss really- just a slightly funny accent. As the Demographics of Australia inevitably change, the old die out, and...
  19. One Diplomatic cost that is yet to be factored is...

    One Diplomatic cost that is yet to be factored is that "We" the west may have just stuck the nail in the coffin of having any sort of lasting hegemony over ASEAN. Indonesia and Malaysia have...
  20. But they won't succeed in subduing China- too...

    But they won't succeed in subduing China- too much economic momentum, and a population overwhelmingly in solidarity with their government. I'm afraid it's a Bipolar world order pretty much from now,...
  21. The results of the Russian election will be out...

    The results of the Russian election will be out soon. The incumbent party, which Putin heads, appears at little risk of losing it's 'super majority', but more interesting will be how many seats they...
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    Now in control of all three branches of the...

    Now in control of all three branches of the Legislature, the Chavista's are more in control of Venezuela than ever before under Maduro. US efforts to overthrow the people's vote by any means possible...
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    Adelaide store owner bans vaccinated shoppers...

    Adelaide store owner bans vaccinated shoppers from his shop

    https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAOznbW.img?h=672&w=1119&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f


    The owner of 'Gigantic Signs' has...
  24. I now full well about Ike snubs, great man- the...

    I now full well about Ike snubs, great man- the point is that collectively, ya didn't listen! "Perhaps they'll listen now"....
    It's not only America btw- collectively, we are too easily sold the war...
  25. Trade and communication/ information technology...

    Trade and communication/ information technology increasingly control the world now, military arsenals less and less so. That's my thesis, anyway.
  26. Russia is also part of the BRI. Eurasia is one...

    Russia is also part of the BRI. Eurasia is one very very big, contiguous land mass- with most of the world's population, most of it's economy, and most of it's growth. Everywhere else is just an...
  27. France and Germany should just open up to the...

    France and Germany should just open up to the BRI- the economic benefits thus engendered will make them end up the Winners, not the perpetually war minded Anglo axis.
  28. But the Generals and their real paymasters in the...

    But the Generals and their real paymasters in the MI complex won. To what good purpose, except to make fat War pigs fatter, and the average American citizen poorer?
  29. That their best future is to look East? Could...

    That their best future is to look East? Could well be. :chitown:


    Militarily, the decision to obtain nuclear propelled subs is only a good thing. Even more so when the sole sub base on this...
  30. There was a Georgian citizen, also with a...

    There was a Georgian citizen, also with a moustache, who felt the same way also....
  31. Nato increasingly seems like a rebel, without a...

    Nato increasingly seems like a rebel, without a cause.
  32. ^^ And how well has 'not sitting on the...

    ^^ And how well has 'not sitting on the sidelines' worked out for the US, UK & Oz this century? Just one humiliating debacle after another. :chitown:
    But of course you have helped your friends and...
  33. On the contrary- they are exporting more goods to...

    On the contrary- they are exporting more goods to China! Aussie beef exports to China have been substituted by US beef.
  34. AUKUS: another Morrison masterclass in big words,...

    AUKUS: another Morrison masterclass in big words, poor leadership and dud deals


    It’s taken 24 hours, and the emergence of some actual details, to realise just how awful a decision Scott Morrison...
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    Incidentally, the Maori party has one elected...

    Incidentally, the Maori party has one elected seat in NZ Parliament, plus one other unelected. At the last, 2020, elections they garnered 1.17% of the popular vote. I guess some of these small...
  36. I wonder if Isis will declare a Fatwa on her,...

    I wonder if Isis will declare a Fatwa on her, dressed so provocatively and un-Islamic. For once, we would agree on something.
  37. I see them Reds are still under some folks Beds....

    I see them Reds are still under some folks Beds. :)
  38. Australia's submarine program has truly lost its...

    Australia's submarine program has truly lost its rudder

    China is well on its way to achieving its goal of complete military modernisation by 2027 and already has more warships and submarines than...
  39. Yeh right. :chitown:

    Yeh right. :chitown:
  40. So you reckon they will finance a sub base? That...

    So you reckon they will finance a sub base? That would be nice, but no mention of it yet.
  41. That fella Down Under

    https://youtu.be/Ve3i7ts-OXM


    :smileylaughing:
  42. Oh, just gotta pass this one on- The...

    Oh, just gotta pass this one on-



    The reason the Brits and US left France out of the new arrangement is because they didn't like the acronym...


    USFUKAUS
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    It's not unlike the early post revolution Soviet...

    It's not unlike the early post revolution Soviet governments. Schisms within the Taliban are already becoming apparent.
  44. How am I being a CCP apologist by pointing out...

    How am I being a CCP apologist by pointing out that Australia having one sole submarine base in the extreme SW of the country rather compromises it's ability to be fully operational in the waters off...
  45. Yes of course, what would good ole' sab-...

    Yes of course, what would good ole' sab- previously an oz naval officer- know compared to everyone's favourite patsy. :smileylaughing:
  46. ^^ When I was in the RAN, the mythical threat...

    ^^ When I was in the RAN, the mythical threat from the Indonesians was being played up. The "Yellow Peril". What a joke- over half of their fleet was not even seaworthy, the rest antiquated.
    Now...
  47. That's the interconnected world for ya. As a...

    That's the interconnected world for ya. As a general rule of thumb, countries that share vital mutual trade interests rarely go to war.
  48. I predict that the 'issue', to the Australian...

    I predict that the 'issue', to the Australian taxpayer, will be one of spiralling costs. To pose any credible counterthreat to this mythical Chinese invasion, Australia would need a sub base in the...
  49. Well, there is most certainly a map in my post,...

    Well, there is most certainly a map in my post, but here ya go sherlock-

    Defence Annual Report 2004-05 :: Appendices :: ADF Units and Establishments
  50. Australia's only submarine base is in HMAS...

    Australia's only submarine base is in HMAS Stirling, in the far south west of the map below-
    ...
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