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I ask as they have a lot going for them as a luxury foodstuff. Easy to rear, low veterinary bills, easy to transport. No snail herders needed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliciculture
Not just snails but snail caviar too. This could be a winner if I had a local consumer base.
Anyone experienced in this area ?
Orrens
No but if i was minded to explore this food source our garden has ones about 3 times the size the froggies use
Only for a while. Once Somchai finds out you're onto a winner than they'll all be at it and the price then collapses.Quote:
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I'd go for rat farming. There's a shortage for about 9 months of the year.
We sometimes order grilled spiral babylon snail at our local restaurant.
Just like whelks without the vinegar or pepper.
Not in my neck of the woods. Slime is good for the skin however.Quote:
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Now there's an idea.Quote:
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Thanks for the feedback. I am sure I am onto a winner.
You have your classic French cuisine plus the Thai tastes.
I have a dim memory of Holland & Barrett selling snail slime but I am thinking of a more Japanese experience and allowing snails to crawl over you. Its within my skill set to apply snails to naked women's bodies. Trust me.
Every few weeks someone pipes up about eating insects but here we have a recognised food stuff. In Peckham they used to sell those Giant African Land snails, as big as your fist.
A protected species it seems but africans don't care. They used to sell bush meat, monkey bits.
Now theres an idea. I hate monkeys.
Orrens
The Mandrill of lurve.
They eat them up in Sakon nakhon, the ones in the paddy fields.
I vaguely remember a study carried out showing this was one source of the liver fluke and a reason why liver cancer is so common in Isaan. I'll try and find the reports if anyone is interested
Aaaah freshwater snails. I am aiming at Helix Pomatia whose only side effect is a tendency to let Germans invade your country and rog'er your women.
Orrens
An amateur scientist of stupid women
Eat them here, often the family go along small creeks, rivers collecting them, taste like shit too me.
Olive oil, garlic and a few spices need to be added, plus I believe the French way is to not feed them until the shit has passed, no cook myself.
Don't see snail being sold in the local markets often, maybe seasonal.
James, how long do you think you have to live
Yeah they need purging but whether that removes the parasitic liver flukes I doubt. The flukes live in all the intestines of river creatures but you gut fish so they are OK. Crustacea such as shrimps maybe not as you eat them "wholeish".
Remember those pick your own strawberry farms ? I could do that with snails. And they wouldn't eat them raw.
Orrens
An escapee of style
Strange question, will live until I die.Quote:
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If you mean having eaten snails and other things, if you are afraid to die, your afraid to live.
What a sad life it would be, if you never took chances, life is an adventure, no one gets out of it alive, so enjoy the trip.
James, sorry twas a joke. You are right, you have to try new things - somethings are off the menu, Pla Ra, just ain't eating rotten fish with their flukey guts. I've eaten rotten shark in Iceland and by christ that was awful.
Orrens, I asked this question on TD a few years ago.
My curiosity was aroused because there seems to be a lot around and nobody seemed interested in harvesting them.
This sort:
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/..._small_0-1.jpg
I did some research and found that France imports them at a very good price, so even if the locals don't eat them, there's still a market.
As far as I know, Thais won't eat land snails. I don't know why. Perhaps it's a hangover from the days before indoor toilets and the fact that these snails only eat rotting vegetation. Rotting vegetation may be associated with outdoor toiletting? Whatever, it is strange, as you say, that these snails aren't on the menu in Thailand.
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Thai snails kept 'happy' and healthy for their cosmetic slime
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BANGKOK] Giant African snails endemic to Thailand are getting the red carpet treatment to keep them producing top-notch slime, say farmers harvesting the mucus for use in cosmetics.
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At a farm in Nakhon Nayok province, a two-hour drive north-east of Bangkok, Tawatchai Maneemart tends to some 3,000 snails.
He lets them roam freely in a 21-square-metre enclosure that mimics their natural habitat, and feeds them with organic cucumbers and green leafy vegetables.
These snails, about three inches long, are bred by farmers for their mucus, made popular in large part by a South Korean beauty trend that uses the filtered slime in face serums and moisturisers.
"If we nurture them well and keep them happy by providing them with a pleasant habitat and good food, they will be healthy," said Mr Tawatchai, explaining that healthier snails bred in a stress-free environment are more likely to produce high-quality mucus.
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Advocates of the snail cream say the mucus is filled with collagen and other compounds that aid in hydrating the skin, and which, over time, can fade skin imperfections, such as wrinkles and scars.
To extract the gel, Mr Tawatchai and his team hold a snail over a petri dish and drop water on it to stimulate its production of mucus. The secretion is extracted and bottled.
Once collected, the slime is sold to Aden International Co., a Thailand-based business that turns most of it into a powder, which it sells to cosmetics companies in South Korea and the United States, its Chief Executive Voranun Puttarathuvanun said.
Aden International also makes its own face serum using the mucus, which it says is popular in China.
The company declined to name its customers.
Ms Voranun said the best part of the snail slime business was its minimal cost.
"You don't even need to buy the snails as they can be collected, especially in the rainy season", she said of the land snails from the Achatina genus.
Mr Tawatchai said his snails earn him an average monthly income of $940, almost five times the country's $193 minimum monthly wage.
Cosmetic brands popular in Thailand that use snail mucus include products by Do Day Dream, which uses slime extracted in South Korea in its skin-whitening cream, and Beauty Buffet's Lansley Magic Snail White Cream.
Other countries including Chile, Italy and France also breed snails for their mucus.
There are about 85 snail farms in Nakhon Nayok province where farmers say they extract the mucus no more than once a month to maintain the animals' health.
The snails even get a break from having their slime extracted for four months each year - to keep them healthy and "happy".
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WoW our garden is Invaded with these fellows above mentioned and you are sure the French eat exactly these?
I know Weinberg Snails (Helix pomatia Linnaeus) looking a bit similar and make 6.99EUR incl Garlic Butter ready to cook in Germany. Delicious!
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my wife eats the big black ones in Lake Maprachan east Pattaya but the meat looks horrible, deep black and they are chewy. Tried one and it turned me off..
I tried them also in Jogjakarta last year where they get sold when they are small, same chewy meat and sweet spicy done..
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Just don't eat slugs https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/11/05....google.com%2F
They are abundant in fresh water ponds and lakes. The locals collect them and eat them. They are a source of liver flukes though and should be avoided. Health facilities have postings warning of the dangers in consuming them.
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In Countryside you learn already as kid not to eat uncooked/uncleaned stuff picked from the ground and that it is not cool even chew on a piece of Grass like in these wonderful world scenes of movies because of bugs, worms or even rabies.
For Bramble berries counted, check for maggots and don't pick them lower than your hip.
Must be some truth and experiences from the old people in these sayings.
I used to eat them in a garlic sauce extracting them from their shell with a tooth stick.
It was the norm and local culture in Portugal as one sipped their morning brandy and expresso .
"Bica un masserio con carcious obregada." Was the morning chant!
One foot in the Algarve, 25 years on.
Thais will eat anything if it's covered in chilli,nam pla and mud fish.
Although they will probably pestle and mortar the snails and shells raw.
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