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Reported on BBC now.
Heart attack or what ?
^neck problems I think....
Could be a virus ! 148 died earlier, 20 years ago in a remote area
or
a family gene problem, his brother and another member of the family died almost same time same neck problems...
Any news on how his appeal is going ?
The verdict was confirmed at the appeal, there's a thread about it.
That was a joke Stroll.....Quote:
Originally Posted by stroller
is the video online yet?
got that one a wee bit wrong there stroll..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by BegbieThat was a joke Stroll.....Quote:
Originally Posted by stroller
^
tutonic non sense of humour.
:)
I thought that was a joke.
But not everyone knows about the appeal, just trying to keep this thread a wee bit serious. :)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/30/wo...al&oref=sloginQuote:
President Bush was notified about the execution in a telephone call late Friday to his Texas ranch. He said that the former Iraqi dictator “was executed after receiving a fair trial — the kind of justice he denied the victims of his brutal regime.”
how many of saddam's lawyers were killed during the trial?
how many judges were replaced?
most reports indicate that saddam was a scumbag, but this type of 'justice' is counter-productive.
Agreed, he deserved the Ceausescu treatment.Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
Did the other ones say he was Mother Theresa?Quote:
most reports indicate that saddam was a scumbag
What do you think will be the ramifications on the streets of Baghdad?
I'll bet the freedom fighters are getting ready for some fireworks.
Wouldn't like to be an invading American puppet right now.
^^well in the eighties he was a good enough guy for the US to supply him with WMD.
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2006/12/496.jpg
it could easily be argued that he was no worse than any other dictator, and that his iron grip on the country kept civil war from breaking out.
however, as i posted, most reports indicate he was a scumbag.
The trial was a farce and so is the secret execution
Reminds me of the Romanian execution in the early 90s
He won, we lost
He has become a martyr while he shoud have rot in jail instead
It's ironic that we try to hold up our own justice system as a model for the world (with endlesss appeals to ensure a fair trial took place), yet, applaud when a foreign justice system delivers one's head on a plate within 30 days of conviction. In the following breath we condemn the very same justice system when others are quickly punished.
A bit ironic, no?
One could come up a with a few other adjectives but I guess ironic could be called a bit ironic in it's own right here...Quote:
Originally Posted by surasak
I doubt there will be an escalation of reprisals or terrorist activity because of this. Ironic is a good way simplify what I've been trying to formulate in my mind.
One can only hope those that helped him gain power, supported him then ousted him will receive the same swift justice for their own criminal activities...
Check youtube. Can't vouch for authenticity though.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeMock
repercussions????
what would that be??? the Iraqis dancing in the streets???
swing baby swing :)
A few more yank heads slowly sawn off on video, maybe? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KID
People would pay money to watch in open-air theatres and cheer!:D
Free packet of crisps for families of 4 or more.:cool:
You Seem To Forget That There Are More Than Just yank's in Iraq Stroller !!!
Judging From The Party In The Streets, I Imagine That Few If Any Repercussions From Saddam's Hanging Will Actually Come From Iraqis Themselves !!
Maybe Some Bullshit From Extremist's Of Other Nationality But They Will Just Be Trying To Take Advantage Of The Moment And Stir Things Up !!
Oh really???:DQuote:
Originally Posted by KID
It's "yanks" not "yank's", btw.;)
Did anyone think the video footage of the erxecution was thoroughly morbid?
Why would the US media decide it was ok to broadcast this footage when their own (convicted) convicts are afforded the dignity to die in relative privacy?
Also it looked like some sort of militia execution, people in balaclavas and stuff.
I'm no fan of legal state killings of any fashion but this was a fuking circus and totally unbecoming in this day and age.
i'm far from an apologist for US foreign policy or its current capital punishment laws, and i agree that it is hypocritical, but this was primarily a pragmatic decision. from their perspective, there is a small groups of people who need to see the video.....anyone who was holding out hope for saddam's return.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
i don't know if you saw it, but an earlier video was shown by major media outlets...the video was broadcast quality and whoever was filming was standing next to saddam as the noose went around his neck--and then it abruptly ended. the second video which was shot from below, and actually shows him drop, was taken with a camera phone in poor lighting.
my guess is that at the very least, the US was aware the second video was being filmed and they're pleased it's on the internet because it provides them plausible deniability to charges that they didn't respect the dead.
i've also read where saddam was defiantly abusive to his executioners, and his final words were along the lines of 'death to the traitors and invaders'....and of course the US didn't want that on youtube.
I think it was an allergy to rope. That can be a pain in the neck!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Little Chuchok
Whats the difference between Saddam and a tampon?
A tampon is a string that hangs from a cun t.
His last words were "Muttada Al Sadar" (s.p) ..... No one can stop this sectarian bath of blood.... Let's see the the liberal sepos solve all the worlds problems in a week when they get the control of the Senate and Congress on January 4th.
The sepos have even managed to turn the reviled Saddam into a pitiful old man strung up by a baying mob. What complete fools.
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Originally Posted by little chuchok
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Originally Posted by Mr Earl
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Originally Posted by flash
hold on....my sides....phew....wow......funny, original stuff there guys. thanks.
if by liberal you mean democrat, i don't think i've see them claim to have the ability (or the interest) to solve the world's problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_dog
there may not appear to be much of a difference between republicans and democrats (certainly in regards to globalization issues) but the dems never would have invaded iraq...and ask the working poor who'd they'd prefer to be in control of congress....i'm hoping for significant environmental legislation too.
but anyway, back on topic....saddam's still dead.
Your welcome.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
More like for propaganda purposes at a time when even a majority of U.S. servicemen and women think the President's handling of the war is horrendous.Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
I wonder if the nations of the world will ever hold Bush accountable for war crimes in the same manner of execution.
It'll never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by surasak
^Neither will the Japs get done for their war crimes...
Nor will any of the other world leaders with blood on their hands.
Which brings us the real reason for executing Saddam: to keep him quiet lest he give the details of what the U.S. really did to assist him during the time when he was our friend. The key witness in what could have been an embarassing exposure of truth is now dead.
Don't see the point in going through the bother of topping him if they follow it up by sending him home to become a point of focus for supporters and the usual bandwagoneers. Unmarked grave, could've avoided one unforced error.
The American fair trial got Saddam to hell! Anyway, he deserved more than that. He should have been put behind bars for the rest of his life with some harsh duties.
It makes me think, after watching the execution video, what's the difference between those insurgents who've been beheading people infront of the camera and those who executed Saddam? If it was a fair trial, how come only Moqtada Al Sadar's supporters were there (even they were shouting "Moqtada, Moqtada") to witness the execution and film it. Why nobody stopped the witnesses from shouting nonsense? Such things, video etc, will only worsen the situation and draw more Saddam sympathiser.
Apparently the US tried to delay the execution, but the Iraqi government being so weak, didn't want to take the risk to see Saddam escape and have a new chance to run the country. It's possible that the US is planning to leave immediately after they send more troops in the coming 3 months, and we all know what would happen to the Iraqi government then. It will collapse. For many, Saddam was still a better alternative and he started to look very good in the existing cahos created by American troops. Now he will be worshiped like a God.
Saddam was definately a better solution if one compares to the chaos now. At least fewer people died unde Saddam than Bush.