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Slightly different question to Scampy's OP (so maybe a different thread) but a question I have pondered a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince
What is the Asian league table of who looks down on who?
I estimate it as:-
Japan
Singapore/Hong Kong
Korea
Taiwan
China
Malaysia
Thailand
Indonesia/Vietnam/Burma/Philippines/Cambodia/Laos/North Korea
I think a more accurate statement would be all Asians look down on everyone. Status among Asians and everyone else in the world is rated by total power and money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
India?
I think this is a fair asessment, from what i can see, most asian countries dont think any other country exist outside their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppersI think a more accurate statement would be all Asians look down on everyone. Status among Asians and everyone else in the world is rated by total power and money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppers
CONCUR!Quote:
Originally Posted by nidhoggAgreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppers
So they are a bit like AmerickansQuote:
Originally Posted by SEA TravelerCONCUR!Quote:
Originally Posted by nidhoggAgreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppers
Or Australians?
Come on I said Americans first. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppers
In some ways, it is a touching comment on humanity, and underscores our common origins. We all, regardless of race, creed, colour or religion look down on everyone else who is not of our race, creed colour or religion....
possibly from a govt perspective but hardly a country more gererous than America in their providing humanitary, economic, educational, military and other general aid to the world at large.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiggerSo they are a bit like AmerickansQuote:
Originally Posted by SEA TravelerCONCUR!Quote:
Originally Posted by nidhoggAgreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppers
OK, you win. Americans first......Quote:
Originally Posted by Rigger
Tricky one that my friend. As an absolute number they are certainly the worlds biggest donor. But as a percentage of GNP - they are actually quite far down the list - just above Greece if that makes you feel any better:Quote:
Originally Posted by SEA Traveler
Official development assistance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(look at the second table down).
...and, just to be clear - high explosives dropped foma great height don't really count as "aid"....
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Originally Posted by nidhoggTricky one that my friend. As an absolute number they are certainly the worlds biggest donor. But as a percentage of GNP - they are actually quite far down the list - just above Greece if that makes you feel any better:Quote:
Originally Posted by SEA Traveler
Official development assistance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(look at the second table down).
...and, just to be clear - high explosives dropped foma great height don't really count as "aid"....
tricky or not, aid is being provided in massive amounts. even with out counting the freedoms provided by the delivery of air dropped explosives. Least we forget the intrusions (with not always good intensions) of many others during the worlds existance...
Thais looks down on each other too and I don't mean the Hi So factor. Central Thais regard the southerners as untrustworthy and so on...
I think all the jabba countries fell of the bottom of the scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by TafkaB
They all look down on each other. The Japanese think they are the master Race. The Thais know they are for certain, especially after declaring war on America and having never been defeated.
The ranking of other Asian countries varies but I think just about everyone sees Pakistanis as the lowest, for some incomprehensible reason.
possibly true given that Burma isn't even seen :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Thormaturge
I find that pretty funny :smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by SEA Traveler
I don't think nations generally admit to 'looking up' to neighbouring nations in Asia or anywhere even if they privately know what the regional pecking order is. I mean Kiwis don't admit to looking up to Australians either. Generally the more bitterly one nation speaks of a neighbour the more inferior they feel under the skin. I was more meaning what is the league table of respectability from an objective viewpoint if say you had to take an Asian girlfriend back to Farangland and show her off.
the basis of racismQuote:
Originally Posted by nidhogg
the fear of people who are different to yourself
Dunno, think the Pakistanis look down on the Bangladeshis...Quote:
Originally Posted by Thormaturge
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Originally Posted by Looper
....interesting comment....why would you take any woman anywhere...
..."to show her off"....
now i know they have Dog Shows, Yearling Sales and even Fashion Parades for the ladies....
but isn't that the genesis of the condition....dissatisfaction, affirmation, confusion and finally fear....
this world is a malicious fraud.....clear you mind and look....really look...
at what you see....without the labels....
you will be pleasantly surprised.....once the false value system drops away..
case and point....look closely at the little children....
they have none of these problems....
until we teach them...as we were taught....
Think most western expats in Asia view themselves as being at the top.
Monkeys below.
As for the bottom, the Rohingyas seem to have got a pretty rough deal.
[quote=DrAndy;1737774]CRAP!Quote:
Originally Posted by nidhogg
we racists don't FEAR people who are different to ourselves:
we just HATE them .
there IS a difference, you know!
last gf before moving to Thailand was Taiwanese, went to USA on a uni scholarship and stayed there 8yrs.
She looked down on just about everyone, maybe Taiwanese get taught about the 'bad Chinese' at school but she had no time for them, Koreans and Malaysians were even worse, Singapore/Hong Kong-Chinese were ok as she described them as 'educated'; never mentioned any of the rest on the list - they were just 'other' to her.
She also had the most irritating accent.
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Originally Posted by DrAndy
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Originally Posted by tsico
yes, Tsico, there is
but it is a well known fact that the hate that racists feel has been engendered by the basic fear of someone being different from yourself
Racism is learnt from fear of the unknown - Times Online
big butch racists like yourself need to hide that fear, so it is masked by hatred
But most of them vote with their feet and move to Aus. How many Australians move to NZ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
Showing your GF off, whether it is to strangers in a restaurant or friends back home, is not the main reason for having a GF but it is part of the experience. Unless your GF is a full on minger?Quote:
Originally Posted by baby maker
This conversation reminds me of a 2 Ronnies stetch with John Clease." Upper class middle class and lower class! Can't find it on Youtube. Anyway Gallop has of course a survey on which is the happiest country.
Try
High Wellbeing Eludes the Masses in Most Countries Worldwide
Apparently More Thais think they are thriving than their neighbours, including Japan. Must have sampled the Tuk Tuk drivers in Phuket:)
^ The class sketch was from 'the frost report' from the 1960's this is the top link.
This was redone in 2000 with Stephen Frye.
Enjoy them both :)
YouTube - 5. The Frost Report -An Understanding of Class.mp4
YouTube - The Two Ronnies - 2000 Today
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Originally Posted by DrAndyQuote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
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Originally Posted by tsico
yes, Tsico, there is
but it is a well known fact that the hate that racists feel has been engendered by the basic fear of someone being different from yourself
Racism is learnt from fear of the unknown - Times Online
big butch racists like yourself need to hide that fear, so it is masked by hatred
That's not really true. All this stuff about "racism" and "hate crime" is left wing Big Lie propaganda. The density of logical fallacies per paragraph of the average lefty tirade is quite consistent... even the good Dr did it without thinking... "It's a well known fact" = the fallacy of "every schoolboy knows"...
Every schoolboy doesn't know that there's no such thing as racism; there's no such thing as race. Partly because the left-wing establishment in the UK doesn't want them to know or to think critically and challenge this mantra.
What there is, is ethnicities, and ethnocentrism, and group-based behaviour evolved to increase inclusive fitness by associating in groups and acting in groups for the benefit of the group and in doing so for the self.
Competition for resources is what it's fundamentally about: it's as much to do with love as it is with hate... you love your own family, so you want to provide for them; you don't hate people who try to usurp your resources initially, but the human mind has to dehumanise automatically to be able to compete successfully to control the resources at stake; this cult of trying to convince people that to do so is somehow "morally wrong" creates a major and fundamental cognitive dissonance, because it's in direct conflict with the morally right behaviour of putting the interests of your own group first... the result is chronic and profound unhappiness, as we see in the West.
Fear does not come into it, the concept at hand is survival, and it's an innate behaviour in the most ancient parts of the brain, because it's exhibited by all living organisms in some form or another. It's impossible to "unlearn" to be ethnocentric.
This left wing trope of suggesting it's to do with emotions... "fear", "hatred" etc... is typical of a mentality that fosters "playing the man, never the ball", in debates, where the lefty objective is to move away from reason and to "kill the messenger".
Interesting that you use a Murdoch paper as a reference, I wouldn't wipe my arse with it.
You could just well say that the hate felt by left-wingers to BNP-supporters and fellow travellers is based on fear of people different from themselves... i.e. with a different world view, that they are unwilling to engage with, but happy to condemn.
Yet according to polls, about half the country shares this general perspective, despite the country being run by a clique supported by about 20% of the electorate.
Middle class southern qunts. :)