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Just stolen this quote from another site.
It was posted by Reg The Wedge who is very probably poolcleaner's new nik.
I say bollux.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reg The Wedge
I know it's not fact because i know for a fact i am not racist.
Can anyone prove to me that I am?
How can the Welsh be racist? They're obviously lower than everyone else.
I'm not racist,but I don't like the Welsh.let me qualify that...I don't like Welsh that cheer for ENGLAND when they are playing the All blacks.:)
Can't see this lasting in issues.
:rolleyes:
^So true!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
He must have been joking, or insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Chuchok
it was during 10 minutes of madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Begbie
one of my less lucid moments.
any chance of a pertinant reply to a very interesting question boys and girls?
:rolleyes:
What was the question again ?
I think you mean xenophobia (sorry to be pedantic). Well I've got to admit I'm a bit racist on principle, but only against the english, everyone else I treat as individuals I hope.
Ok - Yes, we are all racist, but the worst racism in our own countries is directed against the majority of whites rather than the minorities. Probably due to white europeans being morally superior.
Before anyone can give a truthful answer, define racism. Not bigotry not prejudice, but racism. Do we treat or act towards others based solely on their race?
Having preconceived ideas on certain cultural or ethnic groups is one thing. acting on or basing our willingness to work with, live near or, if we make decicisions based on, a persons race then yes; you could say that is racism. Thinking Sikhs stink is not racism, just a fact, in our culture. Not sitting next to one that doesn't stink because he is what he is, is racism. Not sitting next to one that stinks, becasue he stinks; simple choice based on personal preference.
Using stereotypes in humor is not racism. Being afraid to let a welshman use your lighter is.
What, he'd deliberately set fire to himself and sue you?Quote:
Being afraid to let a welshman use your lighter is.
No that's an American ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Skulldigger
I'm half Welsh and half Scottish with a tad o french mix. (ancestors emigrated to the US back in the 18th and 19th centuries)
That hardly gives me much room to be a racist.
I think many Indians smell bad, many Arabs cheap focks who treat women badly, Germans often loud mouthed and arrogant. The French are often just PITAs. Israelis are sometimes difficult. And list goes on and on.
I have to take in consideration that here in Patong I'm not always seeing the stellar models of various races and cultures.:rolleyes:
I'm no model citizen either!
well, true we all are. I think it's acceptable as long as we don't start shooting at each other or do other kind of abuses in the name of racism.
I'm not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
:o
Employing a racist (ie negative or hateful) attitude to members of other races is a bit silly.
Channel 4 screened "100% English" this week, which featured eight subjects who believed themselves to be pure English (whatever that means) but who, subsequently, save for Lord Tebbit, turned out to be anything but.
DNA testing showed that even Carole Manley, lady of the manor, a headscarved old crone whose skin was devoid of almost any colour, was more Chinese than Northern European.
Bigoted balloon dance "comedian" Danny Blue, who denied footballer Ian Wright his Englishness by virtue of his "blackness", had to eat his words after his DNA revealed that he was probably Russian if we went back far enough.
Even Carole Thatcher, daughter of Margaret, was at least 24% Middle-Eastern.
Which all went to prove that it is unlikely that there is any "race purity" left anywhere on the planet.
Racism, therefore, becomes dodgy ground.
Sikhs do stink though.
Which site was this on, ChiangMai noon?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
^
smelly/stinky/sexpet teachers forum.
we all are to various degree. It's not systematic, but it does come out sometimes. It's part of our nature and how we react with others as a group. Like I said, as long as it's doesn't involve violence or mass murders or other kind of abuses, then we are free to think what we want. I also would like to think I am not, but sometimes I let slip a few bad remarks when I get a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
I don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
:o
Getting a bit repetative here. I seem to recall a certain Welshman admitting to a youth of burning foreigners out of their houses.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
change admitting to for lying about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Begbie
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Originally Posted by Begbie
No more heroes any more.
Come on, people! We are the "Human Race"!
And I'm currently 3rd from last position--but I'm coming on up fast from the inside rail!
But you aren't exactly human are you Agent-Smith?:lam: Or can we also refer to you as "Mr Ed"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
People often only notice it when they are at the receiving end of it....Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
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Originally Posted by stroller
You mean like when the "F" word is mentioned?
I'm not racist at all, hell I've even got some mates that are English....well I think they are mates anyway, but you know what a two faced backstabbing bunch of kunts they tend to be:p
It is hardly spelled 'figger', is it? Get a dictionary. :p:bunny3:Quote:
Originally Posted by risktohimselfQuote:
Originally Posted by stroller
You mean like when the "F" word is mentioned?
I don't consider myself racist, but I've been confronted throughout my life with stereotypes I hold and assumptions I make.
I've struggled with this question. As a daughter of the Old South, I had ancestors who were poor farmers and some who were landowners and slaveholders. It's not a pretty heritage.
Here's an example...my family didn't allow the use of the word "nigger," not because it was racist but because it marked a person as being "common." Many Southerners used it daily as a matter-of-fact adjective. Who was racist? Couldn't tell from language, as it didn't really reveal thoughts and attitudes.
I have to say that dealing with my husband's Thai ex-wife and my Thai daughter-in-law's marriage arrangement has made me struggle with some stereotypes around the Thai approach to money, love, marriage and relationships.
i disagree, because IMO this type of humor can lead to generalizations based on race. once enough people have heard jokes about a racial group enough times, it becomes a truism.Quote:
Originally Posted by friscofrankie
^Everything in hunour has an element of truth.no truth=not funny.
I am not so much a racist but i would be lying if i said i liked Africans. They are very cheeky, complain constantly, have no respect for women and think everyone is against them.
One interesting aspect of racism in the U.S. has been the creation of a class of crime called "hate crimes."
Now, I agree there truly are hate crimes -- very obviously targeted at the victim's race or other different nature (gay).
But -- should there be greater penalties for hate crimes?
I never understood the concept of that since it doesn't promote equal justice under the law.
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Originally Posted by raycarey
Like the man said. Most of the racial humor has an element of truth in it. is does not become a truism but is based in truth. We are different, clutural differences can generally be found to coincide with racial differences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Chuchok
Those unable or unwilling to find humor in those differences realy do very little to contribute to racial harmony, although they'd like you to think differently.
In many, ways this is quite similar to this question:
An act of violence or violation of ones civil liberties is a crime regardless of the motivation. Beat a woman up, hate crime; Beata gay person up hate crime; beat a balck up racisit hate crime. Six blacks beat white dude up, simple assault. :D Fuckin politicallu correct liberals sure have fucked things up there, ain't they? Seems the only folks in the US that do not have a special interest group or laws enacted to protect them are straight whit men. We try to fix that we get called all kinds of names racist, bigot or elitist. No hiring quota for white folks, no recourse if I wasn't hired because I like wimmin instead of my own sex, no protection when I am turned down as a tennant because I ain't chinese. Can we joke about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by gulfcoast
On more than one occassion, I have been assaulted because I was white. Goes back as far as 1959 in North Chicago. I have been told, and told, white-boy jokes by blacks and asians. None of the folks tellin the jokes ever tried to hit me with a fuckin' pipe.
Go on thinkng that we can continue ignoring our differences ,keeping the discussion of them taboo. Go on thinking these thngs until the pressure cooker explodes. open discussion and a sense of humor about these things are the relief valve that keeps the pressure down. It ain't racism. Those that spend time arguing it is are wasting time fighting a ghost and avoiding the issue of true racism, it does exsist, you know
Pattern recognition is one of the most important faculties of animals and humans, and it would be misguided to try to ignore the patterns that we see.Quote:
Originally Posted by friscofrankie
For example, in my town when buying a used car from a Russian there is a good chance it is a rebuilt wrecked car. A healthy sense of suspicion, in this case, is a good idea and a positive use of stereotypes. It's an issue that shouldn't necessarily cloud one's relationships with other people, but kept in mind while in unfamiliar situations.
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Originally Posted by ray
These two posts are two common approaches that cut accross many social issues. Most of us can get along and kid each other. I don't think we need to be protected from ourselves nor should all of us suffer because a small percentage of assholes use a joke to express their hate and make humor ugly. Making something taboo makes for secreted thoughts which become personal truisms that never get aired out or understood via cross cultural discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
Buying a car from anyone it's always good to keep a eye onpen for 'tricks.' Would you really be any less meticulous in yur inspection of a car because the seller was not Russian? Or would you just pass on even dealing on a well priced auto because the seller was Russian?Quote:
Originally Posted by attaboy
If by racist, you mean that we all tend to gravitate to our own kind....I would say YES, we are racist. Not a big deal in the overall scheme of things. The challenge is to overcome the tendency.
rac·ism
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
racist - definition of racist by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
An interesting article on the subject: Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thais gotta be superior to most of the white folk here
(no I dont mean you, not you Rich EXPAT..)
they have many of us working for them for peanuts
(they convinced many of us here that "peanuts" and "lifestyle" are same same, similar .. maybe a tad different huh? :confused:)