Sent the wenches application off mid December, robbing coonts charge £900 now, was just wondering if anyone has any recent experience of how long i am likely to wait before i hear the outcome.
Printable View
Sent the wenches application off mid December, robbing coonts charge £900 now, was just wondering if anyone has any recent experience of how long i am likely to wait before i hear the outcome.
Absolute liberty free when I done it in 2002 didn't even take the wife queued up with a load of Nigerians at Lunar House in Croydon was all sorted out on the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by buriramboy
You can still get it done on the day but think they charge about £1400 for that, was free up until 2007 i believe.
I can understand you have to pay if your a immigrant but the wife of a British Citizen just seems wrong.
Providing she gets it, think it is another £1000+ to apply for citizenship in another year when she's been here 3 years although i haven't looked too much into that, just hope she doesn't have to do another dumb 'life in the uk' test for that, although she did pass third time!!!!!
I was lucky with that managed to get a notary to certify that hear English was good enough to apply which you could do then, went to Harringey Council office where you get it fast tracked for a fee of £37 six weeks later we attended a ceremony where she was given her citizenship by the Pakistani Mayor of Greenwich.
used to work just past Lunar house in Croydon ,walking past it seeing all the delightful people entering Britain , never made for a good start to the day.
Few years ago, I think the turn around time, was about six weeks.
I thought I was robbed back then. Oh well, I suppose you've gotta help pay for Abdul`s younger third wife to get here.
The queue was massive at 6:00am the doors didn't open till 9 every day was the same.
Only reason i'm interested in time as need to get her a driving licence (provisional) and the twats want her passport for that, the haste being down to my local pub closing down last week, so now need a chauffer to go for a beer.
I like your thinking :)Quote:
Originally Posted by buriramboy
Have posted on another thread about this - my Taiwanese Ex- live in partner ( still very good friends)married to a Brit and now living in UK - spent about 1000 pounds getting her UK residence permit -valid for a year.
renewed it last year - no problem - tried to get another year ( working up towards citizen status) Speaks English better than me -also Japanese,Korean and about 6 Chinese dialects - works as an 'on call' interpreter for the regional police
Now been told ( by a Paki man at the Border agency) that she has to pay 34 pounds to take an Englisness exam
What the f*ck is happening i the UK ??
Quite a lot of ethnics working in the UKBA. It is part of the Home Office and therefore under the NuLabour stalinists it was in the frontline as a vehicle for upping the ratio between non whites and whites employed across the civil service. Siting the HQ for the old IND, now the UKBA, in Croydon was quite prescient in the 70's now that it is a largely a sinkhole for immigrants and white trash and therefore the perfect catchment area for Labour's social experiments.
Problem is, trying to understand what they are saying on the telephone is almost an impossible task. Quite ironic really but probably largely irrelevant since most of the time the person dealing hasn't a clue about what it is he or she is paid to do.
All in all, a useful metaphor for modern Britain.
and yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by daveboy
It is a bureaucratic nonsense, all the hoops and problems they make trying to get citizenship etc, and they make you pay through the nose
so anyone trying to stay in the country legally gets robbed and stuffed
meanwhile, 3 million illegal immigrants are pouring into the country daily
It doesn't just seem wrong Dave it is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by daveboy
The government is under a lot of pressure to do something about immigration and come up with statistics that prove they are tackling the problem . However, its not so easy to get the sort of statistic they want since there is little they can do to stem the new tide of economic migrants coming in from the European Union. Then there are people from the Indian sub continent who have family in the U.K. and have the inside track getting help from their relatives.
This leaves the government looking for soft targets to fill up its quota. And Thais are in the soft target zone.
My nephew met a girl from Slovakia whilst working on a contract in Ireland. She has come to live with him and has brought her two children along. They were immediatley given housing benefit coming to nearly 700 a month and child benefit for the two children. In addition, she is claiming unemployment benefit.
Does that sound fair considering what those with a Thai wife have to put up with ?
IT makes my head burst, phut hua.
Friend of mine moved back to the UK with his Thai Missus 5 years ago. Two months ago she got her citizenship. Last week, I find out she's kicked him out and filed for divorce. :(
I guess there's always the option to go back and get another one. Maybe a younger model!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil
Absolutely not.Quote:
Originally Posted by BangyaiIt doesn't just seem wrong Dave it is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by daveboy
The government is under a lot of pressure to do something about immigration and come up with statistics that prove they are tackling the problem . However, its not so easy to get the sort of statistic they want since there is little they can do to stem the new tide of economic migrants coming in from the European Union. Then there are people from the Indian sub continent who have family in the U.K. and have the inside track getting help from their relatives.
This leaves the government looking for soft targets to fill up its quota. And Thais are in the soft target zone.
My nephew met a girl from Slovakia whilst working on a contract in Ireland. She has come to live with him and has brought her two children along. They were immediatley given housing benefit coming to nearly 700 a month and child benefit for the two children. In addition, she is claiming unemployment benefit.
Does that sound fair considering what those with a Thai wife have to put up with ?
Mines terrible :).Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
That's his plan! :) Moving back next month - I believe he intends extended test drives of a few models rather than a long term purchase this time. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hopskimoetI guess there's always the option to go back and get another one. Maybe a younger model!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil
missus got hers last november took 6 weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by buriramboy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil
it must have been awful for her having to wait so long before she could get rid of him!! that is not uncommon, I have heard it being discussed by the Thai mafia (wifes friends) in the UK several times
Speak head? Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by nevets
Strange why they all wait so long if that is their intention when all they have to do is claim a bit of domestic abuse and hey presto British passport.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
Not so. Applications for leave to remain under Para 289 of the Rules have to be substantiated either by submitting evidence of a conviction, caution or an injunction obtained against the spouse as a consequence of domestic violence or in the absence of such a record at least three independent proofs supporting the allegation.Quote:
Originally Posted by buriramboyStrange why they all wait so long if that is their intention when all they have to do is claim a bit of domestic abuse and hey presto British passport.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
A simple claim alone is insufficient and inevitably will result in refusal.
If successful the applicant will obtain leave to remain indefinitely. Qualification for British citizenship is dependent, inter alia, upon 5 years continuous residence before the date of application,the last year of which must be free from any time limit.
^
Yes, claim abuse to the police, they take out an order against the person, hey presto, you have your evidence. ILR here we come. Ive seen it happen recently.
Stop being pedantic Gent. Im sure your able to read between the lines.
^^3 years not 5 years if married to a British citizen, if my misses gets ILR she will be able to apply for a British passport, which is my intention on December 14th this year as she will have been in the UK 3 years then, unless of course they change the rules in the meantime.
At the risk of being accused of a UK armchair expert and someone who has recently just got his wifes ILTR at Croydon , are you sure about being able to apply for the wifes prov licence yet ? I think when I looked into it for mine she has to have been known here by some witness for 3 years ? or has that changed ? mabe one of the stressed up floor sitting experts on the other side of the globe can fill us in
Err, I was referring to those who obtained their ILR on the basis of their marriage breaking down as a consequence of domestic violence.Quote:
Originally Posted by buriramboy
Obviously.
Astasinim, I wasn't being pedantic actually. Had you read the post properly you would have understood it was informative and, given my extensive knowledge of the subject, accurate. Your comprehension appears to be based on nothing more than tittle tattle or bar room banter.
Honestly, casting pearls before you swine can be quite tiresome and I do sometimes wonder why I bother.
Just get someone to sign it off and be creative. The DVLA/UKBA liaison is only interested in overstayers/illegal entrants/failed asylum seekers and those involved in submitting counterfeit/forged documents.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigelandjan
Took us a morning in Croydon free in 2001. Her behaviour changed after that fateful day.
The worrying thing still in place is if you happen to "die" before her qualifying period she automatically gains citizenship !:UK:
Can apply for a licence at anytime (the day you arrive if you so desire), it's just that they need her passport which i don't have till the Border agency return it.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigelandjan
Gent. I dont doubt your extensive knowledge. However, im speaking from the evidence ive seen. One lady (who I forgot to mention, has a child to a uk citizen, so that may change things) claimed abuse, got an injunction against her hubby, was given accommodation, and is now in the process of getting ILR free of charge via her solicitor, also free of charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegent
So my comprehension is not based on tittle tattle or bar room banter, but written evidence. Just because you may be well versed on immigration law, doesn't mean you know it all. Maybe, just maybe, you could learn something yourself, from some here, who have different experiences or knowledge than yourself.
Well, it seems you have proved my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by astasinimGent. I dont doubt your extensive knowledge. However, im speaking from the evidence ive seen. One lady (who I forgot to mention, has a child to a uk citizen, so that may change things) claimed abuse, got an injunction against her hubby, was given accommodation, and is now in the process of getting ILR free of charge via her solicitor, also free of charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegent
So my comprehension is not based on tittle tattle or bar room banter, but written evidence. Just because you may be well versed on immigration law, doesn't mean you know it all. Maybe, just maybe, you could learn something yourself, from some here, who have different experiences or knowledge than yourself.
Making an allegation is one thing but obtaining an injunction is another. The latter requires a District judge to make a finding upon evidence adduced before him which he must weigh. The UKBA accepts this as prima facie evidence of domestic violence and on the balance of probabilities would ordinarily grant ILR in an application that the marriage had foundered as a consequence. The process is quite rightly free of charge since in many cases the applicant has no assets of their own and is usually totally dependent upon the spouse for support and accommodation. This is a sound policy and designed to protect immigrants from captive domestic abuse - if it were not to prevail the immigrant spouse could be held hostage to the whims of an abusive husband upon whom her status would be otherwise reliant.
My point in this thread was to dismiss the glib notion that one had only to make an allegation to secure residence and a fast track route to British citizenship which as you are probably well aware is far from the case.
As an addendum to the example you have cited, I should state that if the lady was unable to prove her marriage had foundered as a consequence of DV she could make an application to remain outside the rules in order to maintain contact with her child. All being well such an application is usually granted and permits her to remain for 3 years in the first instance and can be extended for a further 3 before ILR is granted.
Apologies if my posts came across as being a bit abrasive.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nigelandjan
Hence having to hire a food taster.
Think you will find a descrepency here ,,, I think they can actually drive on believe it or not a Thai passport for the first year in the UK ,, then have to apply for a UK licence test ,, and I think then you need someone to have known her in the UK for 3 years ,, mabe I am wrong here ,, but we did look into it and I kicked myself because I didnt know she could have driven here the first year ,, its a shame cause she is a lovely little calm driver and I think she would have managed , thus giving her confidence to go on to the UK licenceQuote:
Originally Posted by buriramboy
^ quite correct, we accept a full driving licence from any country for the first twelve months from the date they become normally resident (or visitor, but if they visit one year then become resident the next it counts from the second year). You do not need an international licence, these are effectively meaningless in the UK.
I got around the 3 year rule by getting a friend who had gone to Thailand with me to sign, but you can get around it by turning up in person to a regional office (by appointment) with your Thai passport. There are lots of Thais still driving after their initial 12 months because they get used to the idea and there is nothing to chase them up.
Happy days, just got passports back with the wench's ILR visa in, so all in all took best part of 3 months from when i posted it off.