Friendly Pharmacies

Endless insomnia means I need a regular supply of Valium Xanax, Tamazapam lorazapam etc etc. My miserly doctorsss will only give me 10 at once. Does anyone know of any liberaly minded pharamices in BKK (near Sai Dai/ Pin Klao or any BTS/MRT stop)


Also (not that ayyy farkin need them) where can you buy cheap small amounts of Viagra/Biagra etc etc??? About three years ago I asked in a Pharmacy near Prom Pong and the jocker offered me a box of ten for 3500 baht !!!


If you can help please provide detailed directions.



Sleepless in Sukhumvit.

Diazepam 5mg is available legally over the counter at most pharmacies. Take 2 & it should settle you down.

Problem is that these are all addictive drugs in the long run & you are going to have to wean yourself off them - cold-turkey style. There is no other way.

Have a chat to your doctor & let them prescribe a later-generation non-addictive sleeping tablet. Not an easy habit to wean off...

How about thinking prevention instead of cure? Feck drugs to cure it. What do you think is causing it?

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How about thinking prevention instead of cure? Feck drugs to cure it. What do you think is causing it?

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Fair point smeg: it is the fear of waking up at a set time. If I can get up when I like I have no problem sleeping. I just start getting paniced about the 7am deadline and it means if I wake up to do a pee pee at 2am i wont get back to sleep after that. AND ALL I AM WORRIED ABOUT IS THE FUCKING DEADLINE.

Is this just for work days? I got a little bit like that for stressy PGCE days when I knew my uni lecturer was coming to watch me teach for a day.

Have you got a stressy job or other daily worries?

The worst thing to do is to try to get back to sleep, or even think about anything. Sleep is one of the few things in life that you can do much more easily without trying or even thinking about it.

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Diazepam 5mg is available legally over the counter at most pharmacies. Take 2 & it should settle you down.

Problem is that these are all addictive drugs in the long run & you are going to have to wean yourself off them - cold-turkey style. There is no other way.

Have a chat to your doctor & let them prescribe a later-generation non-addictive sleeping tablet. Not an easy habit to wean off...

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1) I think your info is old D-man post war on drugs it has been very hit and miss on over counter sales.

2) Yep they are a bit addictive but I never take them at weekend and never even think of them when I am on my two month long holidays a year

3) I went to a Thai shrink at a well known hospital who prescribed me some fucking pre-med highly addictive knock-you-out-after-ten-minutes-for-two=hours-date-rape style drugs......... TIT!!!!! After that experience I am sticking to GPs wgo can't speak english and capitalist pharmacies.

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Is this just for work days? I got a little bit like that for stressy PGCE days when I knew my uni lecturer was coming to watch me teach for a day.

Have you got a stressy job or other daily worries?

The worst thing to do is to try to get back to sleep, or even think about anything. Sleep is one of the few things in life that you can do much more easily without trying or even thinking about it.

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Agreed but once it is on your mind ... ....

I think this is the problem

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Endless insomnia.......

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You've decided that you've got longterm insomnia and that you have to do something about it. This act in itself is actually causing the problem, in my opinion. You are dwelling on it, which is prolonging it. How to get around that? Maybe just stop thinking about it, and read for a few minutes if you wake up. Try studying a few pages of Thai from a coursebook, that'll soon send you to sleep....:)

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it is the fear of waking up at a set time. If I can get up when I like I have no problem sleeping.

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I suffered from this all my life.

I never arrange early morning meetings or take buses or flights in the morning.
I can never sleep for fear of missing them.
I even transferred my job from days to nights at my request.

Benzo's are not the answer, they will mess you up in the end.

One more thing, regarding the "fixed time" thing. Wake up at the same time, 7 days per week, work or no work. I'm pretty sure that'd sort it, by making it the norm, and steadying your body clock.

Oh, and no caffiene after 3pm, and try to get 30 minutes exercise every day.

Ok touchy feely stuff aside. Medicinal, infrequent use of these drugs is beneficial. Where to buy please??

Also Viagra? Just to say that I had done it! Tick it off the list of restricted medecines so to speak!

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it is the fear of waking up at a set time. If I can get up when I like I have no problem sleeping.

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I suffered from this all my life.

I never arrange early morning meetings or take buses or flights in the morning.
I can never sleep for fear of missing them.
I even transferred my job from days to nights at my request.

Benzo's are not the answer, they will mess you up in the end.

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Its a bugger in it Old Croc .... I mean old codger .... I mean Helicopter!!!!!


Have you been reading HRH Prince of Wales's foray into literature?

I've had my issues with the blues MD not nice to come off after a month long bender.

I would recommend some valarian tea instead.

seems like control of this stuff has stiffened up lately.
I would post on TV's Pattaya forum i remember reading that there were still places that were selling them openley

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Ok touchy feely stuff aside. Medicinal, infrequent use of these drugs is beneficial. Where to buy please??

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Hey buster, if its "infrequent" use then you don't need to buy it by the truckful ;) Ten minutes ago you were saying

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I need a regular supply

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Don't dismiss the "touchy feely" stuff (although by branding it as that it sounds like you already have). I had exactly what you've got, around 10 years ago. It wasn't drugs that rid me of it.

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Have you been reading HRH Prince of Wales's foray into literature?

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Yeah that little Budgie fella helps everybody fix their problems, my girlfriend reads me a story each night and i drift off to sleep nicely:D

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Originally Posted by diaw https://teakdoor.com/images/td_defaul...s/viewpost.gif
Diazepam 5mg is available legally over the counter at most pharmacies. Take 2 & it should settle you down.

Problem is that these are all addictive drugs in the long run & you are going to have to wean yourself off them - cold-turkey style. There is no other way.

Have a chat to your doctor & let them prescribe a later-generation non-addictive sleeping tablet. Not an easy habit to wean off...

1) I think your info is old D-man post war on drugs it has been very hit and miss on over counter sales.

2) Yep they are a bit addictive but I never take them at weekend and never even think of them when I am on my two month long holidays a year

3) I went to a Thai shrink at a well known hospital who prescribed me some fucking pre-med highly addictive knock-you-out-after-ten-minutes-for-two=hours-date-rape style drugs......... TIT!!!!! After that experience I am sticking to GPs wgo can't speak english and capitalist pharmacies.

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I met a doctor once who told me that they were just a little bit addictive - bollox - Xanax is a killer as are all the benzodiazepines.

I can tell you from coming off a final tolerance of 100-200mg valium a day for 5 years that there is only one drug worse to come off and that is methadone. Heroin, coke, speed, crack, yaa ba are all much easier.

If you do need to take it they short acting ones are best. You will probably be ok if you take only one or two night a week, but be very careful - I know many people who started that way only to get fully hooked. I could tell you some real horror stories.

If you go to the doctor and tell him that you are an alcoholic - he'll give you a big supply.

10 years ago, I used to buy about 1 tub of 1000 pills 10mg a month at any chemist in Bangkok. Now there are still some - your original question - there is one I believe on Silon Road on the same side as central up a bit on the way to the Dusit Thani. The guy might say that he dosen't have them - if he does tell him that you bought them off him before.
The law has been changed a couple fio times - once in 97 and more recently in 2003.

The one at the bottom of the BTS NANA sold xanax 1 year ago. The one next to the italian restaurant.

OK so concerns noted with due dilligence. I am prepared to try snything to help me sleep but I do need something to work in the short term.

The first two months of the last school term were hell for me due to the fact that the no sleep monkey came 3 or 4 nights a week, and I am the type who is barely able to to tie up his shoelaces after 3hrs kip. I am willing to try anything to combat this fucker but to just to do nothing is a NO go

So any good pharamcies?

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Originally Posted by diaw https://teakdoor.com/images/td_defaul...s/viewpost.gif
Diazepam 5mg is available legally over the counter at most pharmacies. Take 2 & it should settle you down.

Problem is that these are all addictive drugs in the long run & you are going to have to wean yourself off them - cold-turkey style. There is no other way.

Have a chat to your doctor & let them prescribe a later-generation non-addictive sleeping tablet. Not an easy habit to wean off...

1) I think your info is old D-man post war on drugs it has been very hit and miss on over counter sales.

2) Yep they are a bit addictive but I never take them at weekend and never even think of them when I am on my two month long holidays a year

3) I went to a Thai shrink at a well known hospital who prescribed me some fucking pre-med highly addictive knock-you-out-after-ten-minutes-for-two=hours-date-rape style drugs......... TIT!!!!! After that experience I am sticking to GPs wgo can't speak english and capitalist pharmacies.

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I met a doctor once who told me that they were just a little bit addictive - bollox - Xanax is a killer as are all the benzodiazepines.

I can tell you from coming off a final tolerance of 100-200mg valium a day for 5 years that there is only one drug worse to come off and that is methadone. Heroin, coke, speed, crack, yaa ba are all much easier.

If you do need to take it they short acting ones are best. You will probably be ok if you take only one or two night a week, but be very careful - I know many people who started that way only to get fully hooked. I could tell you some real horror stories.
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Yeah this is inteserting I was taking them 20/30mgs a day 5 days a week for six months and when I stopped i had a weepy week (just depression and urge to cry) but KK from ajarn took Valium everyday for two weeks and had shit-yourself full on heroin like withdrawls. I wouder why it affects different people differently???

I found that the major dependency with these insomnia problems is in your mind - rather than physical dependence.

I find that it often helps to do some physical exercise & make yourself naturally tired. An old trick is to not do mentally-taxing exercises after 8 pm in the evening & try doing something to relax your mind.

One of the main contributors to insomnia problems is usually an underlying emotional issue that has not been dealt with eg. guilt, anger... Get hese sorted out & you'll generally be on your way to a reasonable sleep pattern.

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Yeah this is inteserting I was taking them 20/30mgs a day 5 days a week for six months and when I stopped i had a weepy week (just depression and urge to cry) but KK from ajarn took Valium everyday for two weeks and had shit-yourself full on heroin like withdrawls. I wouder why it affects different people differently???

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That's precisely why they are restricted... You go into rebound & depression - especially on those dosages.

When I first came to BKK I was running on 30-50mgs every evening (sometimes doubled up) just so I could get to sleep... for around 2 months... I nearly jumped off the balcony a few times... be careful out there...

Yes yes i'll be careful fellows. But where to buy? I am not absuing these drugs I just can't sleep properly without them!

The legal limit on Diazepam is 10mg... There is no restriction on the 5mg version. Almost every pharmacy would help you there, but, perhaps not if they were concerned about a dependency problem. Then they would tell you otherwise.

There was a prescription sleeping tablet - StilNox - some years ago which was supposed to be non-habit-forming. Not sure what you can get in Thailand.

Also, simple old-fashioned anti-hystamines will get you tired enough to sleep.

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The legal limit on Diazepam is 10mg... There is no restriction on the 5mg version. Almost every pharmacy would help you there, but, perhaps not if they were concerned about a dependency problem. Then they would tell you otherwise.

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What legal limit? I was prescribed 20 mg 3xday once in the UK.

I've suffered from insomnia all my life. Trouble getting to sleep at night; trouble getting back to sleep after that 2 AM "pee pee". But, here's what I do:

A few beers between 7 and 9 PM is usually enough to calm me down. If I'm particularly rattled I'll take a couple of Ibuprofen or an antihistamine. Neither of these are addictive or habit forming and both seem to add just the right amount of drowsiness to put me away for a full night's sleep. And, no hangover feeling in the morning.

I used to take sleep meds during a long trans-Pacific air flight. But, now I find that the Ibuprofen/antihistimine combination is all I need for 6 to 8 hours in dreamland.

Now, back on topic: Friendly Pharmacies? How about that one on Suk near soi 5 that has handwritten signs in Japanese only advertising that they sell Viagra, Kamagra, etc.?

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I am not absuing these drugs I just can't sleep properly without them!

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That's exactly what I used to say, really.
It took me 5 years to get off that drug.
Thai doctors are terrible for handing out benzos - if you can't get enough from them, and need to buy on the black market - that is abuse and don't think "it's only sleeping med"- it's worse than heroin. They make you into a zombie. Go and ask for Rivitrol - the doctors seem to think it's not as addictive as other benzos(which is bollox).
Thai doctors give them to alcoholics - take a look in the BNF or MIMS to see how crazy this is.

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The legal limit on Diazepam is 10mg... There is no restriction on the 5mg version. Almost every pharmacy would help you there, but, perhaps not if they were concerned about a dependency problem. Then they would tell you otherwise.

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What legal limit? I was prescribed 20 mg 3xday once in the UK.

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The legal limit for non-prescription over-counter sales in Thailand.

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The legal limit on Diazepam is 10mg... There is no restriction on the 5mg version. Almost every pharmacy would help you there, but, perhaps not if they were concerned about a dependency problem. Then they would tell you otherwise.
What legal limit? I was prescribed 20 mg 3xday once in the UK.

The legal limit for non-prescription over-counter sales in Thailand.

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Are you sure? I thought all sale was illegal, after 2003.

TiT... ;)

It its rare to get Valium over the counter now.. believe me. Although there is a pharmacy at Sai Dai Bus Station with a very prime and proper doctor who will sell 10 5mg Diazampam with and explaination that is the the legal limmit on over the counter sales.

But you walk into other pharmacies and they chace you out like some crack head asking for Damerol for his comedown.... TIT !


Viagra/biagra????

I know you wanna get high, but for trying to sleep, another point to think about is to dim the lights about 2 hours before bedtime, and avoid strong lights at all costs. (Yes, kind of the same logic as with the black cloth you'll pull over a bird's cage). This will accentuate to your body that it's time to sleep.

If you get up and go to the bathroom just before you go to sleep, and turn on a fluorescent light while taking a piss or brushing your teeth, your rhythm is reset back to square one. So go with low light.

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But you walk into other pharmacies and they chace you out like some crack head asking for Damerol for his comedown.... TIT !

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Yaa baa addicts use it for their comedown.
A few years ago there was a terrible problem in the south with Temazepam abuse by kids - this is what led to the new law.

benzo's be a bitch