So, the UDD reds are losing

Times and times again, I hear people in this forum saying..."The reds are finished, the reds will be heading home soon, the reds are so and so...". Fine, it's everyones opinion and I have no dispute against it. Facts will soon tell the truth.

Now still remember the time when Abhisat said unless Thaksin returns to face his 2 years jail term, there's nothing to talk about? Still remember Suthep keep saying he's got no interest in talking to Thaksin?

Well, my friends, read the attached report from Bangkok Post...

Suthep: We'll talk, if Thaksin okays it

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Originally Posted by Lalida

Facts will soon tell the truth.

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The facts are that Thaksin has no bargaining chips in any negotiation and every effort the reds made have fallen short of their goals...

Face it, the established power-base in Thailand is as it has always been and will likely never change...

Interesting. Let's see what comes of this.

Nothing new there.
Apeshit has always been willing to talk as long as an amnesty for Tacky is not on the agenda

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Originally Posted by Muadib

The facts are that Thaksin has no bargaining chips in any negotiation

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Possibly but he is obviously looked upon as the "authority" by the government.

The government is ready for talks with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, particularly its core leader Veera Musikhapong, on the condition that he must first get the green light from former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said on Wednesday.

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Originally Posted by Muadib

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Originally Posted by Lalida

Facts will soon tell the truth.

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The facts are that Thaksin has no bargaining chips in any negotiation and every effort the reds made have fallen short of their goals...

Face it, the established power-base in Thailand is as it has always been and will likely never change...

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There is no hope ?

Funny, when I saw all those trucks on Viphapavadi heading to Bangkok,

I thought there was hope ...

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Originally Posted by Perota

Funny, when I saw all those trucks on Viphapavadi I had hope. I'm not going to give up so easly.

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do you have a Thai ID card ? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Lalida

Well, my friends, read the attached report from Bangkok Post...

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so you are saying that the whole UDD movement was about Thaksin ?

please tell us something we don't know :rolleyes:

The reds do look to be bunch of clowns. Lotsa hot air.

Chose the wrong colour. Maybe green would have got more sympathy? :)

The UDD will not be losing at the next election though, can't wait for that.

Sorry, I've been stuck internet free in the UK for a few days, how many did they get? Close to the one million?

^ Divide by 10 and you would be close...

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Originally Posted by Muadib

^ Divide by 10 and you would be close...

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how many did PAD have?

....bunch of spoilt little thai kids who threw a tantrum and were given their way as per the custom.

redshirts may lose this round, but they will not disappear.
abhisit doesn't have the balls to test his mandate (which he never had in the first place) with an election.

mr T was the only one, and still is, that could keep the monkeys under control.
he knows what they want and how to keep the circuis going.
abhisit and his masters are way out of date:
their time has come and the system will change, sooner or later.

sad thing is that without thaksin at the helm, the changeover will probably be violent.

I think the REDS have managed an extremely effective protest there.
Just hope they move away soon and dont get drawn into government dirty tricks, and nothing kicks off .

The junta government , and abi in particular must be feeling very hollow and shallow and ashamed.

The Reds have aquired loads of national and international kudos from this.
The cat is out the bag now.

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Originally Posted by SHYTALK

The Reds have aquired loads of national and international kudos from this.

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International? You got to be fvckin’ kidding.

^Yes, none of the world was interested until the bloodletting mumbo jumbo then it became front page news. :D

dirtydog - any TD amulets still available??? :mid:

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Originally Posted by britmaveric

^Yes, none of the world was interested until the bloodletting mumbo jumbo then it became front page news. :D

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well, it served it's purpose, didn't it?

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Originally Posted by S Landreth

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Originally Posted by SHYTALK

The Reds have aquired loads of national and international kudos from this.

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International? You got to be fvckin’ kidding.

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Kudos? You got to be fvckin’ kidding!

^I was watching BBC news here in Miami on a PBS station just a bit ago and they aired a short story (maybe 20 seconds) about the bloodletting in Bangkok (what the world is watching). If I didn’t live in Thailand (most of the year) and know some of the things that have been happening there over the past several years, I would think these red shirted people were absolutely crazy.

I understand they are desperate and lacking any real leadership,.but looking at the news event I saw on BBC (as an outsider),….their fvckin’ crazy.

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He felt pity seeing the red-shirts resort to their blood-spilling tactic, because this would only cause the world to believe that some Thai people were still superstitious and followers of black magic.

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They're not?

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The blood ritual the red-shirts performed at the Democrat Party head office had hurt the feelings of the Democrats and Government House officials, Mr Suthep said.

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I guess they are. If they weren't superstitious and believers in black magic then they would have instead been shocked and disgusted.

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Originally Posted by SHYTALK

The Reds have aquired loads of national and international kudos from this.

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believing your own hype, do you ? :rofl:

Vejj's missus will luv the new color scheme.

I am totally against the Omartaya of Thailand ,and also Thaksin ,the only way to get a just and democratic society is to fight for it . This pussy footing around will never work and until the people have the means to fight the bad ruling classes then they should just stick to their farms and try to make a living.

The farmers where i live don't even think about Bangkok , they just get on with their work if they have it, Bangkok is a million miles from their thoughts.

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Originally Posted by SHYTALK

I think the REDS have managed an extremely effective protest there.
Just hope they move away soon and dont get drawn into government dirty tricks, and nothing kicks off .

The junta government , and abi in particular must be feeling very hollow and shallow and ashamed.

The Reds have aquired loads of national and international kudos from this.
The cat is out the bag now.

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It appears you don't inhabit the same reality as me.

Protest has been lame, bordering on a dismal failure.

The government is the one with the dirty tricks you say? Really?

The government and their backers are probably laughing themselves to sleep every night! Sadly for the red shirts, they've been played and succumbed. Do you really think the elite suffer from such emotions as "very hollow and shallow and ashamed". If you do, then you know sweet FA.

Kudos you say...unaware of any.

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Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Protest has been lame, bordering on a dismal failure.

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100% agree with you.

Compared to the yellows, no official building trashed, no violence, they didn't even beat up a journalist.

Boring !

And I almost forgot, the only blood they spilled was their.

Can you be more stupid ?

^ Just can't get a good, reliable, bloodthirsty mob these days. Shesh! Times are hard.

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Originally Posted by SHYTALK

The Reds have aquired loads of national and international kudos from this.

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The point is, such kudos is useless , same same all the international kudos that Burma lady has.
What the Reds need is not just 1 million protestors, but 1 million rifles , a few thousands anti tank rocket launchers and a few hundred anti air guns.

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Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

^ Just can't get a good, reliable, bloodthirsty mob these days. Shesh! Times are hard.

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Not paying enough!!
:chitown:

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Originally Posted by wefearourdespot

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Originally Posted by SHYTALK

The Reds have aquired loads of national and international kudos from this.

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The point is, such kudos is useless , same same all the international kudos that Burma lady has.
What the Reds need is not just 1 million protestors, but 1 million rifles , a few thousands anti tank rocket launchers and a few hundred anti air guns.

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Now that would work!

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Originally Posted by Lalida

Now still remember the time when Abhisat said unless Thaksin returns to face his 2 years jail term, there's nothing to talk about? Still remember Suthep keep saying he's got no interest in talking to Thaksin?

Well, my friends, read the attached report from Bangkok Post...

Suthep: We'll talk, if Thaksin okays it

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Wow, this is too funny -- you, and some other hanger-ons, actually *believe* this -- that's actually awesome, as it demonstrates that strategy to further marginalize Thaksin works, because people like yourself are falling for it.

Well, let me ask you this -- if Abhisit and Suthep are standing on one side with open arms, and Thaksin refuses to engage them, what does that make Thaksin?