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10-02-2010, 12:00 PM
Marmite the Dog

Wall Fans

A while back when I was in Petchabun, some old bugger there said that wall fans were a good alternative to air-conditioning. Obviously, they won't chill the house like AC does, but I think they would make a difference to the inside temperature, especially at night.

I'm not going to put in AC in a rented house. These I can fit and leave when we eventually move on.

Most wall fans seem to be aimed at the commercial or domestic kitchen. I will need something with a bit more oomph (which they do have here) and which is designed to draw air into the the room, rather than expel it.

This is the kind of thing I mean.

https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2010/02/364.jpg

Does anyone have any experience with these in their bedrooms or living rooms?
10-02-2010, 01:41 PM
AntRobertson

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Does anyone have any experience with these in their bedrooms or living rooms?

Nope - but whenever/wherever I've seen them they seem to be more for ventilation than cooling.

What about one of those free-standing air con units?
10-02-2010, 01:45 PM
Bobcock

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

wherever I've seen them they seem to be more for ventilation than cooling.

And the award for stating the bleeding obvious goes to................
10-02-2010, 01:46 PM
Bobcock

even what they sell as 'Air Conditioning' should only really be termed as comfort coolers, they do not condition the air.
10-02-2010, 01:51 PM
daveboy

They won't cool anything down just suck out bad oddurs.
10-02-2010, 02:05 PM
Bobcock

^ They will if the outside air is cooler than the rather stale fart filled air in marmites bedroom at 3am.

I'd say install if only fror the midget's sake.
10-02-2010, 02:15 PM
jandajoy

I'd have thought directional pedestal fans would be more effective and no installation.
10-02-2010, 02:16 PM
aging one

they have a company making these mister fans in Thailand now. How about something like this. You can put freezing water in them and get a nice effect for about 8hours on a fill. I have one in the living room now.

Portable Misting Fans for Outdoor and Indoor the site given is for looking only. There is a Thai company making these. I am looking now.
10-02-2010, 02:17 PM
Loy Toy

If placed closed to the ceiling they may improve the room temperature by sucking out all the hot air and creating a ground to ceiling air flow circulation.

I always use ceiling fans in the bedroom and living areas and they seem to work well for all but the hottest time of the year in LOS.
10-02-2010, 02:35 PM
blackgang

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Originally Posted by aging one

Portable Misting Fans for Outdoor and Indoor the site given is for looking only. There is a Thai

Yea, They got some of those in that Mex food joint that Frisco likes in CM, they do seem to work OK and kind of like that High pressure, fine misting systems that they use at carnivals and state fair exibits in the US the last few years I was there too.
But I do use air conditioning in my house,, and they do condition the air thru filters, dehumidify, and cool it down with mechanical refrigeration systems.
10-02-2010, 02:44 PM
aging one

I have air and ceiling fans up stairs, but the downstairs is very open and the prevailing winds come over a lotus klong so its not too bad. On the nights of March through say September that their is no wind the mister fan makes life a lot nicer.

I thought it would get too humid but it does not. I think I paid about 1500 baht more than a big floor fan. Say 3.5 to 4000 baht.
10-02-2010, 04:22 PM
Marmite the Dog

I'm not interested in the portable water loaded cooling thing. They're crap, expensive for what they are and will probably give me Legionaries Disease.

Also, I see a lot of you can't read. I want to bring in the cooler air from outside, not remove my fart odours.

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Originally Posted by jandajoy

I'd have thought directional pedestal fans would be more effective and no installation.

So you think fans that move the internal warmer air around would be better than bringing in the cooler air from outside?

I knew I shouldn't have bothered asking all the geniuses on here.
10-02-2010, 04:27 PM
The Fresh Prince

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

not remove my fart odours.

So you wanna keep them?
10-02-2010, 04:28 PM
Gerbil

Install it backwards and it will work.

Or you could take the fan blades of the spindle and put it back the other way round if it will fit.
10-02-2010, 04:29 PM
Travelmate

Leave the fans alone. Never do the job of cooling at all. Just move air.
Install Air Cons in your house and then remove, when you move out.
Simple really.
10-02-2010, 04:41 PM
Spin

The room I work in at night has two windows. If it is cooler outside than it is inside I aim a regular room fan out through an open window.
With the door to the room closed, cool air gets drawn in through the other open window which is next to where I sit. Works a treat for me at this time of the year.
10-02-2010, 04:48 PM
Bobcock

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Also, I see a lot of you can't read. I want to bring in the cooler air from outside, not remove my fart odours.

As it was I who mentioned your farts, I think you'll see that I was discussing bringing air in.

And it doesn't even take someone with my qualifications to know if you bring air in the air (fart filled) already inside will have to go somewhere, so they will be diluted at worst and removed at best. as I said, great benefit to the midget.

I do however agree that many didn't read and were discussing extract.
10-02-2010, 04:57 PM
Wayne Kerr

Mate had things like this in one place yeas ago, they were bloody great for getting some air flow through a hot Bangkok townhouse. Very cheap too. Was more effective than the aircon in summer.

https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2010/02/374.jpg
10-02-2010, 05:03 PM
jandajoy

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by jandajoy I'd have thought directional pedestal fans would be more effective and no installation. So you think fans that move the internal warmer air around would be better than bringing in the cooler air from outside? I knew I shouldn't have bothered asking all the geniuses on here.

so open the fokin windows dick head.

nothing personal mind. :)
10-02-2010, 05:06 PM
dirtydog

They are used for moving air out of a room, ie bathroom or kitchen, not sure if the fan could be put on the wrong way or reversed, fitted the wrong way you would have the ugly back of the unit as your view, would work though in a townhouse although maybe 3am to 4am it would start getting a bit too nippy.
10-02-2010, 05:18 PM
Thetyim

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

So you think fans that move the internal warmer air around would be better than bringing in the cooler air from outside?

I put a pedestal fan in front of an open window in our bedroom at night.
The cooler outside air is then blown across the bed
It does cool the room quite nicely
10-02-2010, 05:20 PM
Thetyim

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

not sure if the fan could be put on the wrong way or reversed,

I have seen some that have a switch for changing the direction
10-02-2010, 05:34 PM
Bangyai

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

A while back when I was in Petchabun, some old bugger there said that wall fans were a good alternative to air-conditioning. Obviously, they won't chill the house like AC does, but I think they would make a difference to the inside temperature, especially at night.

I'm not going to put in AC in a rented house. These I can fit and leave when we eventually move on.

Most wall fans seem to be aimed at the commercial or domestic kitchen. I will need something with a bit more oomph (which they do have here) and which is designed to draw air into the the room, rather than expel it.

This is the kind of thing I mean.

https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2010/02/364.jpg

Does anyone have any experience with these in their bedrooms or living rooms?

These are extractor fans rather than wall fans. I had one put in our kitchen to expel cooking smells and hot air from the gas burners and to stimulate air flow from the front of the house to the back. Wall fans are what you see in Wayne Kerrs picture.
I have used extractor fans in all my houses here and believe me they are no alternative to air conditioning. The difference they make is real but marginal. The only real alternative to air conditioning is to somehow shoe horn your sofa into the fridge. That would work but you'll be needing a pretty big fridge
10-02-2010, 07:01 PM
Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by jandajoy

so open the fokin windows dick head.

It is open, but the mozzie screen blocks a lot of the airflow.
10-02-2010, 07:05 PM
Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by Bangyai

These are extractor fans rather than wall fans.

I know.

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Originally Posted by Bangyai

I have used extractor fans in all my houses here and believe me they are no alternative to air conditioning.

I know.

I guess I should just do it and report back before I get any more 'expert' advice.
10-02-2010, 08:38 PM
Bangyai

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by Bangyai

These are extractor fans rather than wall fans.

I know.

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Originally Posted by Bangyai

I have used extractor fans in all my houses here and believe me they are no alternative to air conditioning.

I know.

I guess I should just do it and report back before I get any more 'expert' advice.

Vegemite, lets be frank ( or anyone else if you like ) you were always just gonna ' do it ' regardless of what anyone had said with regards to advice. You are the kind of bloke who once he's made his mind up, a weighty coalition of Jesus, Mohammed and the Bhudda could not possibly divert, from doing what a mans gotta do......in this case, instal extractor fans. Loy Toys comment had a lot of merit but the fookin fact is that Thailand is stinking hot and if you wanna be cool , stick yer hand in yer pocket and get an air con. There are many things you can do to make your house cooler....Trees ( for shade ) white walls ( reflect heat )insulation....bla bla bla but these only make the house cooler ( from 34 to 30 degrees ) they do not make the house cool ( 26 degrees ). For pitys sake man, ask the midget what she wants, and then let her have it .

Normally,I would not have been so Frank ( because you might wanna be him ) but a certain amount Hong Tong has compelled me to be brutally honest. ( burp )
08-03-2013, 01:48 AM
wafti

set wall fan(s) as high as possible

It's not blowing the air in that you want, it is blowing it out together with the humidity !
08-03-2013, 07:03 AM
DrAndy

so Marmite, are you still farting after 3 years?

we just place a pedestal fan next to a window, you can bring in cool air or blow out hot air, depending on how you place it