Farangs Dead Everywhere - Embassies Silent

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10-12-2009, 09:42 PM
Tom Sawyer

Farangs Dead Everywhere - Embassies Silent

Ever notice how despite all these murder/suicide/accidents (with sketchy details) that our emabssies remain rather silent publicly?

Perhaps it's time to turn up the heat? Why don't we INSIST that the Pattaya Daily and Phuket whatever and the various other farang-reliant publications make a point of getting a reaction from the Embassies/Consulates on the 'sketchy' issues?

I know they'll say 'oh, it's a private affair with the family and we can't discuss' but we all know that's bull shit. Their job is to keep it quiet so as not to fcuk up relations with host country. The consular secretary is the hardest worked, but the weakest first-or-second secretary in the place.

So if the newspapers would follow up some of this stuff - like what happened with the cop who killed the canadian in Pai, or what about the rape/murder in Chiang Mai, or this or that..Get them on the record. If they pull the family privacy bull shit - ask the family what they think of THEIR embassy. It's great stuff - and would force their hands a bit more..
10-12-2009, 09:53 PM
dirtydog

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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

what happened with the cop who killed the canadian in Pai

I believe he was told off and moved to another province, that certainly taught him that crime doesn't pay, wonder if he's been promoted yet.....
10-12-2009, 09:54 PM
barbaro

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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Ever notice how despite all these murder/suicide/accidents (with sketchy details) that our emabssies remain rather silent publicly?

But what are they supposed to do?

Issue a "travel advisory?"
10-12-2009, 10:08 PM
Tom Sawyer

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Originally Posted by Milkman

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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Ever notice how despite all these murder/suicide/accidents (with sketchy details) that our emabssies remain rather silent publicly?

But what are they supposed to do?

Issue a "travel advisory?"

They could publicly state they are deeply suspicious of the outcome, ask police to do more, or even more benignly - ask for others to come forward to 'help police' but they rarely do any of this -unless instructed by their governments to intervene publicly (usually for political reasons - like they hate the country to begin with).

So we say - 'hey you're my f+cking embassy - SPEAK UP!' (e.g. If someone is killed in Venezuela the US Embassy might make a fuss - if it happened in Colombia - silencio.)
10-12-2009, 10:12 PM
barbaro

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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

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Originally Posted by Milkman

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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Ever notice how despite all these murder/suicide/accidents (with sketchy details) that our emabssies remain rather silent publicly?

But what are they supposed to do?

Issue a "travel advisory?"

They could publicly state they are deeply suspicious of the outcome, ask police to do more, or even more benignly - ask for others to come forward to 'help police' but they rarely do any of this -unless instructed by their governments to intervene publicly (usually for political reasons - like they hate the country to begin with).

So we say - 'hey you're my f+cking embassy - SPEAK UP!'

Fair points, Tom Sawyer.

My cousin, at the age of 26, was scheduled to fly back to Seattle from Bangkok. He was found on the day of his flight in his hotel room, dead.

No money was found on him. But we know that he had $900 USD.

We'll never know if the hotel employee found him deceased, and then took the money, or if he was doped and robbed, or if he accidentally ODed, or if he killed himself.

The autopsy didn't reveal much. He had some barbituate traces in him.

But we'll never know.

But he (rest his soul) lived fast. We just don't know what happened, and we never will.
10-12-2009, 10:19 PM
Tom Sawyer

Milkman

Sorry about your loss. Makes the point - and whilst I know this is a commercial Website where we don;t want to scare off tourists, I can only wonder why it was moved to this 'TeakDoor Lounge Forum' from the news forum, where it was clearly posted in response to the many dead-farang posts.

As you'll note above
"The TeakDoor Lounge This is the place for fun, a laugh and a joke and a bit of light hearted banter, come in and pull up a stool, Tell us what your day was like. Doesn't matter where in the world you are, we all have good and bad days."

Ill-judged in my view..
10-12-2009, 10:21 PM
helge

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

I believe he was told off and moved to another province, that certainly taught him that crime doesn't pay, wonder if he's been promoted yet.....

Or moved to an "Inactive Post" whatever that means ?
10-12-2009, 10:25 PM
helge

Doesn't it just itsch in the fingertips to tell them back home, what a rotten hole this is ?
I should know; I'm danish :)
10-12-2009, 10:31 PM
Tom Sawyer

I see I've made it to the trouble-maker camp, eh, dirtydog?
10-12-2009, 10:32 PM
kfjvkjvk

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and whilst I know this is a commercial Website where we don;t want to scare off tourists

Oh shit, someone had better tell Tud.
10-12-2009, 10:40 PM
Tom Sawyer

Guess all you patters bar owners are pretty confident you won't be next? No Essex or Geordie family members asking the local consul/embassy for info and action about why the GF was doing laundry at 2am when you were falling off the balcony, why there is a new will and why her cousin Pol Col Priyonsai Singhmachangpriporn is inheriting your Thai assets?

Oops..orphans - of course - or single-parent (mother unknown). Sorrry. No one will ask..
10-12-2009, 10:45 PM
kfjvkjvk

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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Guess all you patters bar owners are pretty confident you won't be next?

How many people on here do you think own a bar in Pattaya?
10-12-2009, 10:47 PM
dirtydog

Got to admit i didn't know this was posted in the news forum, when did you actually become a news journalist and which companies do you work for, ps, if you don't then unless it is news don't start stuff in the news forum perhaps....
10-12-2009, 10:48 PM
dirtydog

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Originally Posted by kfjvkjvk

How many people on here do you think own a bar in Pattaya?

Less than the fingers on my left hand, yep, that many.
10-12-2009, 10:56 PM
kfjvkjvk

Do you have the same amount of fingers on both your right and left hands DD?
10-12-2009, 11:04 PM
helge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVA_mSeC4N0
10-12-2009, 11:10 PM
dirtydog

^^Do fish have cocks?
10-12-2009, 11:28 PM
chassamui

This should really be in mkp. I think dd is in generous mood for some reason?

The job of embassies is to look after the interests of their nationals, and to foster good relations with the host country. They are not a news media agency for the benefit of the idle and curious.

In most cases the relatives of individuals who are dealt with by embassies would prefer that they remain anonymous.

Where relatives require information from the embassy concerned, they rely on the diplomatic skills and good relations fostered by the embassy, to get the information they need.

Why should they divulge information of a private nature to some nosy chav?
10-12-2009, 11:28 PM
kfjvkjvk

^^ Sharks have two.
10-12-2009, 11:29 PM
Fabian

I don't see how this would be the embassies job.
10-12-2009, 11:30 PM
kfjvkjvk

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Originally Posted by chassamui

This should really be in mkp. I think dd is in generous mood for some reason?

They always get there slower when DD himself has taken the topic off track with his piscine penis fetishes.
10-12-2009, 11:52 PM
Chairman Mao

Always fun to read from those too stupid and ignorant to realise that countries and cultures differ.

Fok off home mate, you'll obviously be happier.
11-12-2009, 12:00 AM
helge

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Originally Posted by Fabian

I don't see how this would be the embassies job.

But it is.
Warnings about King Power was issued by your Foreing Ministry aswell as I remember it.
Didn't come from Reuters

They certainly should inform potential tourists to this country about difficulties they could meet here
11-12-2009, 12:24 AM
chassamui

The British foregn and commonwealth office produce regularly updated information on their website.

It really is very easy for anyone with a brain cell to check and find relevant information before they travel.

Anyone who is too stupid to check before they leave can always rely on the support of their emabssy.

These people account for the majority the workload at the embassy.

If you want up to date information on what is going on in a country, you can always read the daily mail in uk, or watch fox spews in america.
13-12-2009, 11:01 AM
Tom Sawyer

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Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Always fun to read from those too stupid and ignorant to realise that countries and cultures differ.

Fok off home mate, you'll obviously be happier.

A Chairman Mao - you are yet another Old Asia Hand - how 'interesting'. :sleeping:
13-12-2009, 11:05 AM
Tom Sawyer

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

Less than the fingers on my left hand, yep, that many.

:tosser1:
13-12-2009, 11:10 AM
DrAndy

The embassies are not there to issue declarations about deceased citizens; their main purpose is to cement relations between the two countries and further trade

or do you really believe otherwise!?
13-12-2009, 11:36 AM
superman

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

Do fish have cocks?

May be the "Korean Penis fish" has ?
13-12-2009, 11:50 AM
larvidchr

Actually I think it was in 2007-2008 that the American Embassy demanded a meeting with high Thai Police officials and tourist authorities, they asked for an explanation to the unusual high number of dead US tourists in LOS, the reason was that the US authorities wanted to put together a sort of pamphlet explaining the risks here in LOS that was to be given to tourists.

It's not like they don't care, likewise it has been publicised often enough that Thailand is the country where most UK citizens die outside of the UK, but the Embassy is not masters over the type of tourists that come to Thailand or their behaviour, first many are very old and as such naturally die of in greater numbers than the UK population as a whole, secondly they cant stop 80 year + guys from pumping up in a mix of Viagra and alcohol that quite often see them push themselves over the edge, Then we have all the guys that die on small and big bikes here in LOS driving drunk and without basic safety equipment, in the time I have been here that number seems incredible high.

It is a place of dangerous life styles that do carry a cost, the murders that we see now and again are usually widely publicised, and there are probably one or two now and again that are not found out, but this is a third world country and you only have to look at how the Authorities behaves on crime scenes to understand why they do not stand much of a chance in the face of just a little bit careful murderers, it is also a place of rampant corruption so if a farang engages in business conflicts with Thais he is running a considerable higher risk that he would at home, but that risk is just as high or higher for the Thais themselves, it's not like the Thais hold back in murdering their own in arguments over business and in family disputes.

All in all it is not that mysterious what goes down here, the numbers are high because of a variety of natural and cultural reasons and not least risky lifestyles, and it is relatively easy to avoid the most risky behaviour patterns if you really want to, thus increasing your chance not to end up in the statistics, but if you have come here as an old geaser like most do, and intent to stay you will end up in the numbers sooner or later no matter what you do.

:)
13-12-2009, 02:48 PM
Tom Sawyer

^
Good points. What happened to the US pamphlet?
13-12-2009, 03:00 PM
DrAndy

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Originally Posted by larvidchr

secondly they cant stop 80 year + guys from pumping up in a mix of Viagra and alcohol that quite often see them push themselves over the edge

Pattaya balconies?
13-12-2009, 04:58 PM
larvidchr

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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

^
Good points. What happened to the US pamphlet?

I don't actually know if they ever got round to make one, or if some of it just ended up on the travel advise on the US foreign ministry/embassy homepage, or if the Thais somehow got them talked away from it.
13-12-2009, 04:59 PM
larvidchr

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Originally Posted by DrAndy

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Originally Posted by larvidchr

secondly they cant stop 80 year + guys from pumping up in a mix of Viagra and alcohol that quite often see them push themselves over the edge

Pattaya balconies?

:):) 80 + with a sudden big boner you haven't seen for 20 years could easily upset your sense of balance:rofl: