The last few weeks I've been waking up at 5 am, irrespective of the time I switch off my lights . . . and it is affecting my work and mood.
I have tried the odd cat nap, five minutes or so, but I just wake up feeling grumpy.
Any suggestions?
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The last few weeks I've been waking up at 5 am, irrespective of the time I switch off my lights . . . and it is affecting my work and mood.
I have tried the odd cat nap, five minutes or so, but I just wake up feeling grumpy.
Any suggestions?
Any external obvious disturbances happening at that time? It's an odd hour to wake.
Often such a sleep pattern can be due to anxiety and/or depression. Anything unusually stressful happening in your life at the moment?
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sleeping with angry midgets has that effect
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Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
The slow change in hormones in the body corresponds to the advancing maturity in years. Often, this results in those of advancing years requiring less sleep and becoming ever more forgetfull, untill the eventuality is reached where one becomes really senile and you neither know nor care whether or not you slept. Another eventuality is to become absolutely barking mad, where once again sleep, or lack of, is no longer a problem, and the ever increasing waking hours are spent trying to remember what it was you have forgotten. The clinically barking mad have no need for sleep, preffering to chase butterflies or passing cars whilst howling and piddling themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
So, no need at all to worry. It's only natural. Hope this helps. :)
I sleep for about 15 minutes (2 or 3 times a day) and I wake up feeling wonderful and extremely hungry, just like I did about 15 minutes ago. During night I rarely sleep more than 4 hours straight.
I have heard that some geniuses nap for about 15~30 minutes a day 4 times a day and that's all they need (Einstein for example). Power sleeping is what I think they term this sleeping pattern.
Everyone is different but when I gave up smoking I certainly slept better and for longer hours.
If your having problems sleeping become a Thai and you will be able to sleep anywhere at anytime without any problems! :)
Valium or be 25 again
Why do you wake up grump?Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
5 minutes not enough? Or, do you feel groggy from the brief nap.
I usually feel groggy if I take too long of a nap.
In fact I just got up from a 3 hour nap. Way too long, but I feel good, so far.
It also depends on your work situation or other obligations. Tonight I work at night, so I can afford to sleep, but I want to be in bed tonight around 12:30 to 1 AM, because I have a busy workload Fri/Sat/Sun, right now.
The sleep experts recommend heavy drapes to block out the morning light and fool your brain into thinking its not dawn. Air Conditioning may help. Or set one alarm for 0200 hrs and get up for a piss if its a full Blader waking you up.
0500 hrs aint a bad tme to wake up anyway so long as you have had enough sleep. Its a good time to get some mental work done when your brain is fresh and clear, and its quiet. Maybe try getting into the habit of going to bed at 2100 hrs ?
But since this is something new for you there must be something new causing it.
Once you figure out the cause you can attack the problem at its roots.
Do you have any beer before sleeping. I always find I sleep terribly if I have a couple before I go to bed. I sleep great if I have a skinful, but after I wake up, I feel as if I've had no sleep at all.
Enough alcohol will make you pass out, but being comatose is not sleep and there is no rest in being shit faced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
I had trouble staying asleep when I was a drunk, always happens when you run low on alkie, then I got sober and had nice restful sleep.
but I woke up early all my life, unless I was on rotation and then you never really get rested because you bio clock never gets set.
Now I wake up between 0430 and 0500 and get up and do what ever it is I have planned for the day and then I go to bed at about 2200, read a few pages of a novel and go to sleep.
I do take 3 mg of melotonin at night, have done that for years, they say it helps, maybe your pituitary gland ain't making enough melotonin.
same here mate, except its been bloody years, usually i just get up and take the dog for a walk/run for an hour, a beaut time of day to gather the thoughts and ready for the day...i quizzed the doc just recently on my odd sleep paterns [4-5hours] and he was,nt too concerned, i still seem to function ok, and a little 15min power nap about lunch time helps..good luck with it mateQuote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
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on the dot, every morning.
Unless drunk.
Weird.
Same same for years.
PH, take two 25 mg of Atarax and you will get 8 to 9 hours straight. There is no hangover feeling and the sleep is deep and restful.
Hydroxyzine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Even though it is an effective sedative, hypnotic, and tranquilizer, it shares almost none of the abuse, dependence, addiction, and toxicity potential of other drugs used for the same range of therapeutic reasons
5.00am, ffs time to get out of bed and do something useful or enjoyable, best time of the day imo.
Btw they aint called cat naps. Its nana naps ur thinking of, byproduct of getting old, get used to it!
Some folks have recommened drugs.
That's fine, and it works for some people, but I"ve always avoided drugs.
Doesn't your body get used to them over time, and then the effectiveness is reduced?
Sometimes i'd love to have a nap during the day but if i do it knackeres any ideas of a decent nights sleep!
Tell me about it mate! :bigeyes2:
I had one today and here I am 1.45am ready to take on the world eating a bowl of grapes and every other fooker is asleep, including the dog. :grumpy:
Smoke fewer cigars and pull you hat down over your eyes :)Quote:
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You are so right there. Sometimes feel as I could really do with a 15 min nap, but if I do so know I will still be awake at 3am that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by jizzybloke
well i tried a 2mil valium last night..yawn at 11 in bed about 12..and bing 4.45...wide a bloody awake! fuck it i,m sticking to beer!
Seriously this time....
Couple of years ago, my sleep habits changed abruptly. Used to be a late sleeper, then, suddenly, I started waking up at 6am every morning, on the dot, whatever time I had been to bed at. Now, I just accept it, and have changed my routine accordingly, and turn in a few hours earlier every night. Means that "late nights" are pretty much a thing of the past, as I start nodding off by 10pm, but fuck it, I am starting to get to old to enjoy drinking all night anyway.
I seriously suggest you don't start messing with any drugs, they can have long term effects. Try to "go with the flow" for a while, and just accomadate what your body is teling you.
Plus side for me is I am always in work by 7.30 or so, and can get a good couple of hours solid work done before the rabble turn up.
Melotonin,,not a drug at all but a natural occuring part of your system that sometimes goes lacking thru age or some other thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milkman
It is the chemical that makes you want to go to sleep and stay asleep during darkness, it is man made or it is taken from cows. I prefer man nade stuff since the advent of Mad Cow disease as less chance of contamination.
beer tastes so much better than valium :)
Actually they both work so much better when taken together. Dont know if it would help you sleep better though. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nedwalk
Well, unusually stressful time at work . . . projects that are supposed to come in keep getting postponed and postponed . . .Quote:
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I live in KL and CmN in CM . . . or are you referring to MtD's midget? Never! I am a gentlemanQuote:
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It helps as much as your usually helpful suggestions . . . nothing about snags?Quote:
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Well . . . I was born thereQuote:
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No ideaQuote:
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Could be a good idea . . . how is it getting back to sleep? I've always had problems with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Panda
Nope . . . haven't had a beer in months, actually . . . a few sake-filled nights, however . . . fall asleep like a dead man, but wake up feeling like shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
Thanks, mateQuote:
Originally Posted by nedwalk
I'll look into that, but when you have one on the odd occasion a second little rascal waking you up with stories of having nightmares . . . how awake are you to calm them?Quote:
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You are just so very much cruising for a bruising . . . Your choice: On Nut or a Red?Quote:
Originally Posted by kingwilly
Yup, yup, yupQuote:
Originally Posted by jizzybloke
:) I don't smoke and don't wear hats!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sdigit
I think that may be the easiest way to address it . . . go with it, don't fight it.Quote:
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Thank you, everyone . . . except Withnallstoke, of course! :mid:
Don't shoot the bloody messenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
PS. Now that you've scrolled through a blank screen, what was the what?
Nidnog is right, accept it, I have, at least a few more uninterupted hours of TD each morning
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Originally Posted by withnallstoke
Oh dear . . . is that what my life is coming to . . . replace my gran's crossword puzzle at 5am with me and TD at the same hour . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by kingwilly
Curious PH. How many actual hours of sleep are you getting now. And how many were you getting before you started waking up early?
Before I'd probably average seven hours and now it's somewhere between four and five.
Not a huge difference in numbers, but certainly in how I feel . . . headaches, lethargy etc...
Thats a significant drop in sleeping hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
No doubt resulting in what is known as "sleep debt". Its the cumulative effect of lack of sleep over time and can result in physical and psychological symptoms.
There has got to be a reason for the sudden change in sleeping pattern. I would be focusing more on finding out what that reason is rather than trying to manage the symptoms.
There are many organic diseases which can cause these symptoms such as hyperthyroidism. Do you have any other symptoms such as weight loss, palpitations etc..? Maybe a good idea to talk to a Doc and get some blood tests done to try and find the cause.
^ I cannot function well on 4 or 5 hours. I can function, but not well, and I get irritable and drowsy.
^ Thats probably due to not enough sleep. :)
Need to get layed more, good for the nerves and induces sleep.
I got layed as often as I could while in VietNam, I like those girls, always had calm nerves then.
Fact when I was a kid, I had a Buck Rabbit that when he got a little, he flipped over backwards and passed out.
Yes, in me youth I was more active. Women are hot in 'Nammers, me must admit, but of course so are Thai lasses.Quote:
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OMG! The truth finally comes out.Quote:
Fact when I was a kid, I had a Buck Rabbit that when he got a little, he flipped over backwards and passed out.
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Struth,, My aunts husband had some Rabbits and we went lover and visit them, he gave the 2 boys each a rabbit, a small runt of a Checker Giant buck and a female California doe.
I had decided to stay home thru the summer so I could go Elk hunting in the fall with my Dad. So I had got a job falling timber.
And as kids do, they quit the rabbit business early and I was kind of interested in them.
So to make a long story short, I ended up with the 2 car garage insulated and hutches built and killed the Calif. doe as they are not good brood rabbits, loved that little runt buck so kept him and got a New Zealand white buck and had a dozen NZ White does, had automatic feeders for the nursing does and auto water fountains for all does, and was butchering and selling about about 40 rabbits a month, I cut wood and traded it to the guy at the feed mill for rabbit feed and was doing great until I decided to go off somewhere back to work the next year.
That little runt buck had good blood and he always sired good litters, but when he got a nut He would always jump straight in the air and land on his head in his water dish, if I had forgotten to remove it,,laughed my ass off at him.
Most will just fall over sideways in a dead faint, but he was an acrobatic dude.
sounds like you need a holiday.time away from work
Thats a very interesting story about your youthful experience with rabbits there BG.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgang
Somehow I doubt it doubt it has anything to do with PHs sleep problems though.
Oh right. You did have a rabbit that went to sleep after sex once when you were a kid. Now I get the connection.:rolleyes: Your advice is always appreciated. Hope your rabbit is OK. Try keeping your hands off him for a while.
I am sure he did BG. Now I suppose he just lays there and goes limp.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgang