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10-11-2009, 08:29 PM
Davis Knowlton

Possibly not too smart, but stylish

One of my old friends works for the US government. He has also been married, for the past 12 years, to one of the most evil, horrible bitches ever to breath. Widely regarded by all who have had the misfortune to know her as a miserable creature. He was due to retire last week, with a monthly pension (after taxes and medical insurance) of about $4,000. She informed him that, as soon as he retired, she intended to file for divorce. Under US Federal Law, as she had been married to him for more then ten years while he was a government employee, she is entitled to HALF his retirement. FOREVER!!! As long as she doesn't remarry (like someone would have her). This, by the way, applies only to federal employees, and, in addition, you can get raped by the State for alimony as well.

I just got an e-mail from another friend tonight.

My friend walked into Personnel last week and RESIGNED! Fucking quit! Finito! Done! Resigned three days before he was eligible to retire. Ergo, no pension - nada.

Appears he told his brother that he was only 52, could find work, and that the loss of half his pension was a small price to pay to watch her starve. And if the State wanted alimony (there are no kids), good luck finding him.

Classic!
10-11-2009, 09:25 PM
barbaro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

One of my old friends works for the US government. He has also been married, for the past 12 years, to one of the most evil, horrible bitches ever to breath. Widely regarded by all who have had the misfortune to know her as a miserable creature. He was due to retire last week, with a monthly pension (after taxes and medical insurance) of about $4,000. She informed him that, as soon as he retired, she intended to file for divorce. Under US Federal Law, as she had been married to him for more then ten years while he was a government employee, she is entitled to HALF his retirement. FOREVER!!! As long as she doesn't remarry (like someone would have her). This, by the way, applies only to federal employees, and, in addition, you can get raped by the State for alimony as well.

I just got an e-mail from another friend tonight.

My friend walked into Personnel last week and RESIGNED! Fucking quit! Finito! Done! Resigned three days before he was eligible to retire. Ergo, no pension - nada.

Appears he told his brother that he was only 52, could find work, and that the loss of half his pension was a small price to pay to watch her starve. And if the State wanted alimony (there are no kids), good luck finding him.

Classic!

This thread has potential, Davis.

I think it would be better in the Lounge as there are some who can contribute.

A retired US Navy fellow that us the post here told me that if a person qualifies for the pension in the military after 20+ years, the wife can get 50% for life.

And yes, in few rare cases, guys didn't even do the paperwork to get Navy retirement because they didn't want to their wife to get paid - for life.

This can also apply to union pensions and other pensions in the private sector. If a couple is married so many X amount of years, a judge can rule that a pension must be paid out to the ex.
10-11-2009, 09:41 PM
Stinky

I can understand the bitterness that motivated him to such drastic actions and it definitely took a lot
of balls for your mate to do that, I hope he can sort himself out financially or it could be a rough retirement for him.

Good luck to man I say
10-11-2009, 10:00 PM
DrAndy

"cut off his nose to spite his face", springs to mind
10-11-2009, 10:01 PM
Stinky

No, to spite hers
10-11-2009, 11:03 PM
StrontiumDog

But cutting of noses still takes place, so all's good.
10-11-2009, 11:09 PM
Stinky

Yep, everyone suffers.
10-11-2009, 11:14 PM
tsicar

good on him.

he had other options, though............
perhaps if she was killed in a motorcar accident or something before she filed for divorce, he could have carried on working, collected his pension AND her life insurance!

justice!
10-11-2009, 11:18 PM
filch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sdigit

No, to spite hers

It seems you don't quite understand the idiom.
10-11-2009, 11:20 PM
the dogcatcher

jesus wept!
10-11-2009, 11:33 PM
StrontiumDog

Indeed, it is quite the tale. I half admire and half feel sorry for the guy.
10-11-2009, 11:48 PM
Stinky

I just feel sorry for the guy, he's fuvked himself because he feels so aggrieved, she must have motivated him some to push him that far.

^^^Its ok filch I got it
11-11-2009, 01:53 AM
barbaro

Question:

The guy is from the US.

What is the wife's original nationality?

Is they a naturally born yank?

I know it doesn't matter, but I'm curious.

We also, don't know the full story. Maybe this guy was a reall azzhole.
We don't know anything really.
11-11-2009, 02:02 AM
filch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sdigit

Its ok filch I got it

Thankfully.

As a longterm strategy couldn't he have recorded his wife saying such things as "I'm going to take you for half you're gonna get" and press charges?

I understand this would take an awful long time in court, but gathering evidence that she was only interested in money and whatever else your friend possesed was all that she was interested in would make for a good annulment case?
11-11-2009, 02:24 AM
Stinky

that would take a fair bit of logic and it seems logic was not the prevailing brain pattern at the time
11-11-2009, 02:30 AM
StrontiumDog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milkman

Question:
.
We don't know anything really.

As is often the case, but we wont let a small thing like that stop us!!

:popcornpop:
11-11-2009, 02:36 AM
DrAndy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milkman

The guy is from the US. What is the wife's original nationality? Is they a naturally born yank? I know it doesn't matter, but I'm curious. We also, don't know the full story. Maybe this guy was a reall azzhole. We don't know anything really.

she is a muslim fire eater, he is an genuine US all-American insurance clerk, a born again Christian

the full story is that he will get a pension, she is entitled to half that pension by law. Why she waited until the last moment maybe is written in the koran

"by the will of Mohammed, praise be to his name, all women shall share equally in the goodness of marriage" (and that includes pensions) "unless the marriage be doomed " it goes on "if the husband of the wife is infidel, all his possessions shall be forfeit in any case"
11-11-2009, 02:44 AM
Stinky

I should read more posts, I had no idea this was about religion
11-11-2009, 07:33 AM
kingwilly

sounds like an urban legend to me...
11-11-2009, 08:23 AM
Fondles

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingwilly

sounds like an idiot to me...

fixed for troof
11-11-2009, 08:33 AM
Davis Knowlton

Both Americans.
11-11-2009, 09:44 AM
Butterfly

urban legend, nobody is that stupid or small minded
11-11-2009, 09:52 AM
Travelmate

Cannae believe it!
11-11-2009, 09:56 AM
Loy Toy

Sometimes it takes two to tango and it has taken something for this woman to become so nasty.

Quite possibly your mate was a nasty bloke to live with or done something to change her, after all he did make the decision to marry her in the first place.

I have to agree with Dr. Andy that his vindictive and somewhat foolish action (in walking away from his lifelong pension) may well come back to haunt him.
11-11-2009, 09:58 AM
Attilla the Hen

Surely, half is better than nothing?
11-11-2009, 10:11 AM
Davis Knowlton

^Don't know. Guess in whatever his state of mind was at the time, it wasn't. Never said he was bright, but he certainly will be the talk of the town for a bit. You can't imagine how many guys are living on half pensions now under this law, which, as I said, applies only to Federal government employees. Example: You get married at 26, right after you start your job. You are relatively low-ranking and paid at the time. You get divorced at 36, ten+ years later. No particular drama, just both call it quits. You work another twenty years, with no contact at all with the ex. You then retire at 56, at the top of your salary level. And then, this ex from twenty years ago comes out of the woodwork and, if she has never remarried, lays claim to half your retirement for the rest of her life. And, if she doesn't surface, the government will go and find her. Not too hard to understand why this drives some folks to extreme measures.
11-11-2009, 11:48 AM
StrontiumDog

One things for sure, such a law requires amendment.
11-11-2009, 12:52 PM
Loy Toy

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

One things for sure, such a law requires amendment.

Why is that so SD?

This woman has spent 12 years of her life (and we only get one of those) with a man she now does not love and for whatever reason.

To now change the laws and legislate that she would now deserve nothing from that marriage is unfair to say the least.

Marriage is a joint investment not only fiancially but also morally and if one splits up then everything should be divided 50/50.
11-11-2009, 01:13 PM
PlanK

Half pension for however many years they were married would be fairer.
11-11-2009, 01:46 PM
Fondles

50% of something is much much better than 100% of fuck all, they guy is a fucktard.
11-11-2009, 02:07 PM
Takeovers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan B

Half pension for however many years they were married would be fairer.

That's the law in Germany and not only for public servants.
11-11-2009, 02:24 PM
baldrick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

that she would now deserve nothing from that marriage is unfair to say the least.

yes - maybe pay her out at the going rate for longtimes at nana :D
11-11-2009, 02:31 PM
slackula

Does the law work the same way if the wife is the federal employee?

I don't think it was very wise of the guy to quit. If she was getting 2,000 bucks a month she is hardly going to be rolling in clover.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fondles

50% of something is much much better than 100% of fuck all

This.
11-11-2009, 02:34 PM
Davis Knowlton

Same law, either gender.
11-11-2009, 03:07 PM
DrAndy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan B

Half pension for however many years they were married would be fairer.

I think that is what the law actually is, but it is not so much fun
11-11-2009, 04:09 PM
lob

am i the only one to think that quitting your job, does not affect your pension rights. change your job, pension goes with you.:ourrules:
11-11-2009, 05:57 PM
barbaro

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsicar

good on him.

he had other options, though............
perhaps if she was killed in a motorcar accident or something before she filed for divorce, he could have carried on working, collected his pension AND her life insurance!
justice!

Yeah, but you risk getting caught.

Remember, Ray Carruth?
11-11-2009, 06:58 PM
crazy dog

Pity he don't live in Thailand where he could have had the cow murdered for $500.
11-11-2009, 07:00 PM
tsicar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milkman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsicar

good on him.

he had other options, though............
perhaps if she was killed in a motorcar accident or something before she filed for divorce, he could have carried on working, collected his pension AND her life insurance!
justice!

Yeah, but you risk getting caught.

not if it is a "real" accident.
nobody gets caught for "real" hit and run accidents in thailand.