Looks good!
http://www.motorcycle.in.th/article....r-the-Powerful
I think it will be popular.
Coming soon I hope.
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Looks good!
http://www.motorcycle.in.th/article....r-the-Powerful
I think it will be popular.
Coming soon I hope.
YouTube - 2010 Honda PCX 125i official video TMS
Bloody hell! I want one (for the mrs) It seems it has a hybrid system as well.
It's no Hybrid, has some new fangled starter motor to reduce noise. Good, if it was a hybrid it would be too expensive to buy.
I like its clean lines and storage, no need for the wire basket on the front.
Might have a fight on its hands with the style concious kids who love the retro looking Yamaha Fino.
That's a serious design flaw. It's cruel putting a small dog under the seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Udonite
Or a baby.
Talking of baskets, the basket behind the handle at the Click is much too small. You don't get many bottles of beer in there.
I'd miss the basket, one of my favourite things is the sound of a few bottles tinkling away on the way home....You'd never hear them under the seat.
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Originally Posted by Fabian
Might be worthwile attaching a shopping trolley to the bike - a bit like a sidecar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bung
If it's not much more than 60,000 baht I think I'll buy one as a play toy. I've got 62000 trouble free kilometers on a CBR-150. The durability of these small bikes amazes me. I hear they are going to export these to the USA, but I doubt if they will sell. Most people there are too stupid to see the logic of a bike that does not weigh 400 kilos.
I personally really don't care about the clean lines without the basket. It's just a scooter, and the basket is really useful.
The PCX 125i looks good but I think my Wave 125i will last for almost 10 years more. :)
Honda has a new scooter out in the USA. It's a water-cooled, shaft driven 150cc. It's freeway legal for the US, meaning it will go 60mph with one person under 180lb. I checked here in Chiang Mai, but they said there are no plans to make it here in TH. Maybe it's just me (I have driven the CX500 Hondas in California for years) and I think a 125 is not big enough. Even at 200TB a liter, a 150cc is a better machine. However, they are $5,000 in the US. Even so, they will sell a sh''t load of them because they will get 80mpg
I prefer the new VFR.
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^ Same problem. No basket.
Ahh, but it has panniers and a back box as optional extras. Only about 2,000 quid extra!Quote:
Originally Posted by withnallstoke
Even though it is red?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
^ Well, I'd have to get it resprayed of course.
Honda Announces the CV-Matic - a New Automatic Transmission for Cub-style Scooters
Tokyo, Sept 8, 2009 - (JCN Newswire) - Honda Motor Co., Ltd. announced that it has developed a new automatic transmission, the CV-Matic*, which can be used in combination with Cub-style engines. This new fully automatic transmission further enhances the practicality and convenience of the Cub-type models that have won fans worldwide, especially in developing countries. The new system will be available with Cub-style scooters to be released in the ASEAN region starting in 2010.
The CV-Matic, features a new cooling system developed on the basis of Honda's small-motorcycle automatic transmission technology, which protects the drive belt from the high temperatures it is subjected to. This enhances the durability of the drive belt and allows for the more compact design with a shorter distance between pulleys. Thanks to this advance, the positioning of the engine does not need to be significantly altered, optimizing layout design freedom.
Honda Announces the CV-Matic - a New Automatic Transmission for Cub-style Scooters
I've heard all this before. Whenever one sees the words, "new, automatic transmission, drive belt, pulleys", you really shouldn't bother. It is a bag load of sh1t just waiting to go wrong.
MH.
Hardly. Honda just don't make poor designs in their products. Especially in their biggest selling products.
It works great in their cars. Until it goes wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Mad Hatter
New basket (black only), 99bht.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
"The Honda PCX 125i is pretty close to the best two-wheeler Honda has ever made. The price is not exactly known, but some people with knowledge are saying it would not be much more then the Honda AirBlade-i, for that you get a nippy low emission 125cc state-of-the-art 4-stroke engine with the latest on electronic fuel-injection, which means little running costs and a very convenient transport package, the Honda PCX under-seat storage is relatively large, its larger wheel and the front brake, and with the Combined Brake System, brakes are remarkable stronger and better than on anything Honda had on offer in Thailand."
http://www.motorcycle.in.th/article....r-the-Powerful
"... is pretty close to the best two-wheeler Honda has ever made". Pardon me while I just puke up. Who writes this garbage? [That's a rhetorical question by the way].
"... with the latest on electronic fuel-injection" - you're really fvcked if this goes up the spout.
"... state-of-the-art 4-stroke engine" - Oh, so they've just reinvented the Otto four stroke engine - that really is state of the art.
OK, it looks pretty - it's for the kids market I reckon. I wonder what colours they will do it in?
Finally, yes a front basket is very important - how else are you going to grab a can of Chang if its stuck under your seat? MH.
Although I've never owned a Kawa, I've owned Suzuki, Yamaha, and Hondas. I've really never had a problem with any of them, esp. my Honda CX 500's. They are incredibly dependable. The British bikes I've owned were just the opposite. I had a BSA--I pushed it more than I rode it and I spent a whole day on Sat fixing it before I could go for a Sun ride. My Triumph Bonne was a piece of sh''t. My CX500 not only could outrun it, but handled better.
BTW: In a previous post, I said the new 150cc Honda Scooter was shaft driven, my mistake. I meant to say it was water cooled, fuel injected.
Like to own one of those, but then I'd have to spend my weekends on the road with a
WILL WORK FOR FOOD sign.
Thank you - my point exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
But I want a pink basket, one to match my shirt and jeans.Quote:
Originally Posted by withnallstoke
Couple of things to bear in mind here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Hatter
Even the most hard core bikers will admit - when you look at it critically - that these types of scooters are the best bikes in the world and this latest iteration is the best of the best so yes, this may well be the best two wheeler Honda has ever made.
I'm amazed that people still fear electronics in vehicles. "Oh, if it packs up your in the shit" Vehicles pre modern electronics were waaay less reliable and so had much more chance of being stuck somewhere.
Seeing how this is the latest model then yes, it is a state of the art 4 stroke. Have you seen the specs? They don't just sit there pumping out the same engines year after year, they constantly refine them making the latest state of the art.
Not so outrageous as you claim.
First of all Bung I'll agree with you that Hondas are pretty damn fine machines. Their reputation for reliability is outstanding.
However, that wasn't really the point - it was the introduction of what seems to me to be an inordinately complicated transmission system that bugged me - and yet this is being hailed as a great feature.
From a marketing point of view it is - any fule can ride one of these contraptions, no need to understand about gears or clutch control. But I really do question the long term reliability of what is an exceedingly complex transmission system. If it does pack up can your local workshop guys fix it? Or does it require the bike to go to a Honda dealer and all the expense that that entails?
The other thing that stuck in my gullet was the marketing hype - Honda haven't reinvented the 4 stroke engine, they have refined it a little bit more. And with every refinement additional complexity is built in. Hmm... I would prefer something bog simple when I'm out in the sticks - something the local blacksmith could fix.
As a final note when I visit Thailand again I am seriously considering a run around - and guess what - it's going to be a Honda because of their reliability - but I'll still pass on this latest creation for the moment. MH.
^ The auto belt drive system is actually a lot less complex than a engine case full of gears, centrifugal clutch and final drive....
If it does pack up it will be the belt has worn out (after many thousands of K's) and most somchais will have a spare hanging up on the wall. Most certainly for the current range at least.
Honda never claimed to have reinvented the 4 stroke engine, merely made one that is state of the art - which it is.
If you're talking about the VFR, then I agree, but not the scoot's engine. Unless you're comparing it with a pushrod V-twin of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bung
It is state of the art when comparing it to previous scooter engines. I doubt they are comparing it to larger bikes, that would be out of context. These manufacturers are constantly refining their products primarily for economy and reliability. You may be surprised to see what they do, often completely changing them from one year to the next. State of the art.
Just looking at the seat, that hump will make it interesting to carry a whole family but might be fun to wedge a horny lady in there...
Bit like my old mates trick of putting half a tennis ball under the lining of his Triumphs seat just where his old lady sat to facilitate the fun once home.
I used to ride a Kwak that had a very strange vibration "problem" at 4,700 revs. The occasional lady lucky enough to ride pillion for more than twenty minutes used to disembark with wobbly legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bung
What do you think about the new Honda 125i Click?
I have one and find it great - hauls my 105Kg arse around without problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by spliff
You will have many thousands of trouble free riding with one of those along with the country's biggest dealer network to rely on.
Just change the oil regularly and don't forget the final drive oil as well. Change the tyres when they start to look like they need it, it helps when riding in the wet to have good tyres and when they get worn it is easy to pick up punctures. then you look like a twat pushing your bike down the road sweating your bollocks off. also make sure the brake pads have some meat on them. Change the brake fluid when you change the pads.
Do that and it will never let you down.