as Nawtys design is being modelled, i thought it may be a good idea to post the process, firstly we have his design:
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as Nawtys design is being modelled, i thought it may be a good idea to post the process, firstly we have his design:
so nawty sent me some dimensions and i placed them in the computer.added some columns and doors to start with.
doors and items can be played around with later.
i then add the lower and upper levels, the pic shows the lower level, the blue lines are trace lines from the level above, which means that it can be used as a reference for the other levels.
here is the roof added,
Can't wait for the extrusions and terrain...
ok first test, looking good, still have lots of playing around to do today.
I'm still trying to work out how the basement bedrooms and staircase fit together.
actually this was the 4th roof i made for the house.
from left to right.
the first is made of walls which have been cut away using a method called 'solid element operation' this is where another object is added and then cut away from the origional object, the cut away objects layer is then hidden so that only the cut section is left.this method is good but the cut section will not show on floor plans, and roof materials cannot be added sucessfully.
the second is a roof object which has been added to using cadimage roof tools, which basically is an add-on program to archicad and deos all the roof detailing in about 5 mins instead of the 3+ hours it woul normally take.
the third is a roof tool called a barrel vault.
the final is a tent tool. which basically is used for areas with sunshades etc.
i opted for the standard roof as when rendered it wil produce the best effect.and is the easiest and less time consuming to make.
yes this is something i have been thinking about also, 2 sets needed, which i thought was overkill, but, as the lower and upper levels dont overlap at all then 2 sets will have to do.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
ok so here are the stairs added, and they do seem a bit strange having them like that, maybe nawty can advise?
Wow, see that a professional can bring it to life.....looks good so far.
2 sets of stairs are not overkill......you have 3 levels, so you need 2 lots of stairs, regardless if they are on top of each other, you still basically need 2 sets and the set going down to the bottom bedrooms are only used for guests/visitors, so this bottom level becomes only used when people visit, not a regualr thing and so not an inconvenience for daily access etc.
The other set of stairs to the bedroom, well they become a feature of the house, constructed of wood and spiralling would be a spectacular addition. There is also a centre wood pole where these stairs, a main support in the middle of the house, so simply this support then doubles as the staircase, actually a saving rather than a waste.
The extra staircase wastes space unnecessarily. If they were stacked, it would be more efficient.
Won't have a problem with those nasty kids running up and down them eh?
Not so, the staircase to downstairs is outside on the balcony, no inside space wasted and both add features to the building.
But, if you were pedantic about it and if you were the client, I could redesign it so that the stairs are accessed to the lower bedrooms from behind and not in front. Only a small amount of excavation would be required to build it, basically adds nothing to cost.
You could then have a spectacular decent into a rock lined staircase to a small hallway for access to the bedrooms from rear.
The client is always right....but I prefer the first option.
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Originally Posted by Bobcock
Geeez Knob, get back to your PVC pipe design schedule. Think you having me on about no PVC pipes used on your builds, after all they are lightweight and would float better.
Go muster up some more tear jerking support from your online lover.....
Oh an d if you bothered to read the project conditions, the house if for retirees, who requested 3 levels and the kids are fully grown....so no trouble with my kids running riot, but then they are well behave anyway......so the british principal says
stairs for lower level outside work much better, cheers.having them in the centre of the verandah seems an obstruction, especially if they are not going to be used oftern, can they be placed to the side?
when you're retired, old & miserable.
Cannae be foked climbing all dem stairs.
Bungalow design is more suitable for those old in heart & body.
Could be, though construction of them would be seen as a feature, rather than intrusion. also the deck extends out further than you seemed to have drawn, so the spacing between stairs and front railing is/should be a lot more and therefor no inconvenience.
Also, you have the second level in front of the upstairs bedroom looking currently as an outside upper deck....it is not, is is a large open air space above the dining and lounge areas, cathedral ceilings so to speak.
ok so there is no deck space on the masterbedroom? the masterbedroom is a mezanine floor?which can overlook the lower floor?
like this but neater?
Correct, but with lightweight folding and perhaps louvred doors to close for privacy when visitors around.
There is deckspace, but to the side, off of the bedroom and off of the bathroom.
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Originally Posted by Travelmate
Agree, but the dude that wanted the design...the dude that the comp was to help requested 3 levels, so 3 levels he got.
I'm sure you know already, but, you can't get furniture up, or, down using spiral staircases.
hmmm better add in a crane to hoist in the furniture thru the windows.
Plenty of big wondows.....also you are wrong about that, just ask Ikea
Most furniture here isn't self-assembled. You'll ruin your window frames dragging settees and beds over them.
Spiral staircases look nice, save space, but, are really horrible to use.
Don't drag, lift.
Ikea sucks anway.
Judging from the pics from Nawty's previous house.
Does not use furniture.
He only need a blue toilet.
nawty, the wall that i have as curved, should it be 2 straight walls on an angle?
Split, where is North on your plan??
top of the page i hope, but can orientate any way.
alot of glass on that elevation.
Is it Jandajoy's land? I hope it's North because of the glass curtain wall.
Surprised you don't have a Firemans Pole to slide down!
I hated that blue toilet. I used to get daily photos of it and it's contents.
So do you miss the contents or the blue loo ?
Split, it should be 2 or 3 straight lines for windows/doors. Also above these sliding doors should be glass, with possibly louvred sections at the very top for ventilation. For this concept, i would like to see large folding section doors, say 3m tall or just a little less. Can actually be replaced at construction with cheaper options.
Yes, I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nawty
How could I get more deck for the master bedroom?
I'd kinda thought there might be steps or a ramp combination running outside down one side of the house allowing "stuff" to be carried down to the guest area.
Exactly, even just a grass lawn area, not difficult to do and getting furniture in is the least of your problems.
Also the loft area will have mostly builtin furniture, especially the big stuff, so making sure you have all your furniture in prior to closing it up is not difficult and can be easily planned for.
I am looking to do a stone bathtub in my next house, got the price for a slab from the quarry and might carve it myself......now that will be one big fucker that will have to be planned to be in prior to any walls even going up.
Certainly leaving out a spectacular spiral wooden staircase because of the possibility of needing more furniture in later, is not an option I would even consider.
But, it does not also need to be spiralling, it could be based on a straight line climb, dunno what you call it, but 3 sections of straight stairs instead of circling and then use wider than normal steps, this would allow some furniture access, but still not large pieces and would look more modern and spectacular.
Split.....the stairs should be more like wood steps coming out from the centre pole, then supported by either stainless cables at the outer edge, or black steel rods from a structure above. Also a black steel base under each step angling down from outside edge to the centre pole....if you know what I mean.
Jandajoy building a house?
Where is he getting the money from?
Aborigines
like this for the stairs?