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I looked around on the internet and by the looks it looks like the average salary for English teachers are about 30 000 baht a month. Is that enough to live on for two people for the time being untill a second income is coming? And what oppertunities are there for a man of 53 work wise in Thailand except for teaching?
Not in Bkk it isnt.
Think you will find that the 30k baht stated is for when you are working, a lot of schools do not pay you during holidays, nearly 3 months holidays per year brings you down to an average of around 22k baht per month :(
2nd that.Quote:
Originally Posted by majid
Take a job in the hinterlands that provides housing and paid time off. Often schools will sugar the deal as many teachers wont stick with a rural setting. Your post lacks any mention of credentials. They help in getting decent work.
A Thai Uni will usually pay about 27k plus around 8k for housing.
Out in the sticks, that's plenty, but not in Bangkok unless you're a hermit.
Most Thais in Bangkok live on less than that, so if you can live like a local, its no problem. Personally I'd want 100k to live anywhere in Thailand. Any less than that would require living like a local and only buying local stuff which can't be exported and sold for much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
I don't see why Bangkok is much more expensive than up country. Lots more to spend on, sure, but it isn't compulsory.
I know people who live in Bangkok on less then that. But they don't go out and stay at home most of the time.
You can survive on that, but I would not recommend it.
Well I will do a TEFL course before coming over and will be living in Koh Samui untill we are more settled and sure where to go from there, we got SA friends over there.
A degree is needed to work in a uni. Nondegree stuff is available with kids and language mills but you will earn your 30K.
I've known folk who could save 25-27k on a 35k salary, but they was Africans innit and they don't come here for fun..
It's all about what sort of a lifestyle you want to live. Beer eats up a salary in a big way, never under estimate the amount of currency your handing over to the barman or shopkeeper.
Samui is very dear, probably even more so than Bangkok, get out in the sticks and get your hands dirty, never know, you might like it.
Agreed ^
I do not mind hard work, at the moment I work in a 5 star hotel as Ass. Exec. Housekeeper. Now I have heard hotel work is difficult to get into there unless you are a chef, and that management positions in hotels they rather give to the local people?
There are a few foreigners in managment positions in hotels all over Thailand.
30K sounds like plenty to me as teaching does not pay much and is not much work, shit you do fine on that unless you are a drunk and a whoremonger and eat Thai food.
I do not spend much more than that, most months less and I eat a lot of imported meat and fish and other farang food.
I live in a nice 3 Bedroom 2 bath house in a nice Moo Ban and close in as anyone that has visited me can verify. And here I pay 4K, In Chiang Mai for the same class house in a nice quiet Moo Ban I paid 6K furnished.
and living in town you do not need to cook as eating Thai from a vendor will run between 20 and 40 baht per meal.
Bored students, shitty hours, slimey admins and horrible pay is the norm for the nondegreed. No way you will work cheaper harder or better than a burmese who is supporting his/her whole clan on the income (referring to hotel work). The big wigs rotate into Thailand and head out after a couple of years. Not to diminish your enthusiasm, but the work here is often unenjoyable and meagerly compensated. Dont burn your bridges back home and take this for what it is. It can be a lot of fun even factoring the fairly constant bullshit of working in los.
seek other opinions, op. 30k is poo. of course you can survive but the joy gets lost in the shuffle pretty quick. hit the net hard. you have many hours of reading ahead of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgang
I would say not. Have a good look into it, especially if you wanna stay on Samui..lots of people with lots of baht down there..you'd be making alot more than 30k if you presented yourself well to one of the bigger resorts. I'd start sending your C.V to places ( especially in Chaweng) right now. Don't delay, they're always looking for folk who can do a better job than the locals, which gives you a fucking good chance I'd say..Quote:
Originally Posted by Damarios
For Bangkok 100,000 a month is the bare miminum with a family of one child in my opinion and you can't save that much from experience
100,000 and single with a going out habit is the bare minimum I reckon.
30,000 baht forget it; seems to be a situation where the cons outweigh the pros - why struggle on that in Thailand. though it seems many will with an exgeratted and outspoken view of their homelands
^Maybe he's stuggling on in his homeland and wants a change?
i wouldnt. get real.Quote:
Originally Posted by somtamslap
My Step Father is a teacher up in Chanthaburi, he's on 30k a month (paid 12 months of the year) he's doing allright, renting a semi decent 2 bed house for 3k a month, it aint the hilton but its home, he has a GF and dont drink excessively, he's living fine on 30k.
I'd dip my face in acid before trying to live in BKK on 30K.
I'd also do the the same if I was 53 and needed to work for 30K a month just to survive.
What have you done with your life?
(that's not a mean spirited question, it's what you'll be asking yourself as you're one week short of your monthly pay check and you want to eat something that isn't shit, or buy a new pair of socks cause the ones you just bought for 25baht ripped on their second wear, but you can't afford them.)
It's not a life for a 53 year old.
Or any other age for that matter.
Oh yeah... troll.
Easy to say, but you pobly are working for less than that so why not fess up, this one will not be after your job as he is going to Samui and you are in Patters and he wants hotel work while you are a TEFLer trying to save enough for a sex change op at a cheap hospital. FFS.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by majid
We spend about 35 k a month a we pretty much stick to it. We live in Bangkok and enjoy life pretty well. Make more than that, but don't spend it. Mrs. Chi is a satang pincher!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Brown
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Originally Posted by Damarios
Maybe your hotel, or another of the same ilk, would be happy to send you to their overseas hotel to work
You would then be in a good situation
I didn't think there was much in it until I moved upcountry. Can manage on as low as 15k a month if necessary, but I wouldn't want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmegMost Thais in Bangkok live on less than that, so if you can live like a local, its no problem. Personally I'd want 100k to live anywhere in Thailand. Any less than that would require living like a local and only buying local stuff which can't be exported and sold for much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
I don't see why Bangkok is much more expensive than up country. Lots more to spend on, sure, but it isn't compulsory.
Is the other person Thai or foreign? If it's two foreigners who've just moved to Thailand, 30,000 isn't going to be a lot and you'll have to be very careful about your money but if your partner (?) is Thai, it'll almost certainly go a lot, lot further. I'm not sure how much I spend a month but it's a hell of a lot less than 30,000 but that's because I'm married, and I've been here for a while. As others have said, your best bet is probably to look for a job at a college or university upcountry.
Chi, where we live we live cheaper than you can in BKK, I usually import 35K a month sometimes more if we are planning a purchase and sometimes less, my wife puts in 28k a month and we live out of that account and when it gets more than 100K at months end she transfers some to an account that she gets better interest on than the one we are both on, some farang have told me they get no interest on savings accounts here but we have always got a little even when I was sole signer on the account.Quote:
Originally Posted by chitown
But then your Thai wife would expect an allowance and there is always the family.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
health insurance, car insurance, rent, utilities, petrol, food...all included in this number?Quote:
Originally Posted by chitown
^^ My wife? She works. And her family are working or have pensions. And I'm not sure why you'd assume that this wasn't the case with the OP.
^ Because he is relocating here and hasnt said it was the case. Why would I assume otherwise?
^Dans jumping to wild conclusions real quick, wonder why...
my mistake, dan was replying to the idiot, I mean thegent.
The OP talked about supporting two people, not supporting two people and the extended family of one of them. If the extra person to be supported is Thai, he'll almost certainly need less money.Quote:
Originally Posted by majid
health insurance averaged out is 1500 a monthQuote:
Originally Posted by majid
Car insurance averaged out is 1,250 baht
Utilities 2000 baht
petrol 2,000 baht
rent 5,000
food 12,000
entertainment, gym, movies etc 10,000
total 33,750
good deal on the rent/utils
I took a teaching job for 1 year in Korat, 4 years ago, thru a agency in Bangkok.
29,000 a month to start,rent etc 7,000. What was left was fine for the 2 of us, but it would not have been enough for Bangkok.
After 1 month, 5,000 a month more for baby sitting 4 year olds, 6 hours a week.
Now on 34,000 a month wow!
Over the next few months, made private contracts for weekend work, after nine months now on 50,000 a month.
For the last 3 months, made more contacts thru word and mouth with the others, final total 58,000 a month, we lived well.
All the parents were thai/chin, money was no problem.
BTW I charged 900 baht an hour.
Regards.
^ are you in sakon nakhon? dont happen to know scott (american, 40ish, retired navy) do you?
We live on less than 30k a month, the condo is 6k and a two bedroom is 10k, on the outskirts of course. I would not know what to do with 100k a month, what do they spend it on?
As far as the teaching is concerned I thought to be legal you need a degree to work in any School teaching English and also need a work permit, thats why I have never done it.