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Huh. Nobody posted anything about this day? Guess the Euros want to forget what the Americans, Canadians and Brits did on this day to liberate the Continent from the Nazis. Thank the gods for the Rangers, too.
You're welcome anyway.
YouTube - D-Day 6/6/44
Yes....saving the world for democracy.:rolleyes:
Nice to see Glasgow Rangers get a mention on here we won the double this season...:)
As far as I remember The good ole USA did not enter the war in Europe until 1940 and after the destruction at Pearl Harbour. The war started in September 1939 for the UK and Canada and the Commonwealth.
However the most important thing to remember is the sacrifices that the Allies made and we should never forget the bravery of these people. or we would all be walking round wearing jackboots.
When I get home to Thailand I will have a drink to their memory.
^^
You lot were on the Japanese side if I remember!! Or maybe you were not sure which side to bet on (oh let me guess we,ll back the winners) democracy you dont know what it means!!
Maybe one day but I wont hold my breath:mid:
Brave men.
I am grateful to them & always buy poppies.
Bladdy wanklettes. What did Europe ever do for anyone but themselves?
:) OK, watch Saving Private Ryan then. :chitown:
YouTube - Saving Private Ryan (1998) Part 01
Pearl Harbor was in 1942.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehighlander959
Let us also not forget Thailand was on the Axis side during the war, and was a defeated enemy.
^ is there a statute of limitations on War Crimes?
History aka hollywood!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
We were only invited to take part in the remembrance as an after thought. France wanted to use the occasion as a little political love in with Bama, and blames brown for the queen not being invited. In turn Brown blamed France for the invite not being sent. Wankers the lot of em.
YouTube - Brown gets booed
Rather than getting all starry eyed over some Hollywood glam, here's some actual footage.
YouTube - D-Day Landings in Normandy
YouTube - Actual D-Day landing military footage
YouTube - D-DAY VICTORY ON THE WAVES Part 2/3
Pearl Harbour December 7th 1941 as far as I know.
What a lousy early morning call.
Japan/Germany/Italy -Axis of Evil (Thailand still deciding if they are a democracy or not and to side with the winners when its done and dusted)
UK/Commonwealth/USA and Allies- The good guys
Seeing the men fall as soon as they set foot on the beach is moving.
They didn't even get the chance to fire back.
:(
Why should we be invited ?
Never declared War on Hitler
Never had a Battle of Britain
Never fought in the Far East
Never went Bankrupt because of a War we never participated in
Never had to pay back good old USA for every bullet we bought (if we participated in that War)
No British lives were lost
Gen De Gualling!! only used England as a place to launce his military Offensive and his political career,
We were busy in the Pubs
France and Italy the only armies in the world where their tanks have a reverse gear and there is no need for tank identification marks as the yellow flag flying from the tank ariel mast covers all bases.:)
December 7 1941 to be exact.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorTud
^Once you've been in Thailand long enough, you'll realize it was 1942.
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Originally Posted by EmperorTud
This never seems to be taught about in Thai Schools (correct me if wrong) and is almost like a blank space in history. Ask any Thai about this period and they seem clueless, it's as if it all never happened. Do they comemorate the end of Japanese occupation?
Sunday, December 7 - Islands of Hawaii, near Oahu - The Japanese attack force under the command of Admiral Nagumo, consisting of six carriers with 423 planes, is about to attack. At 6 a.m., the first attack wave of 183 Japanese planes takes off from the carriers located 230 miles north of Oahu and heads for the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor.
Pearl Harbor - At 7:02 a.m., two Army operators at Oahu's northern shore radar station detect the Japanese air attack approaching and contact a junior officer who disregards their reports, thinking they are American B-17 planes which are expected in from the U.S. west coast.
Near Oahu - At 7:15 a.m., a second attack wave of 167 planes takes off from the Japanese carriers and heads for Pearl Harbor.
Have a look round Bangkok Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza there is still a Japanese occupation. :)
^^Once you've been in Thailand long enough, you'll know better than to trust this sort of historical nonsense. Pearl Harbour was 1942.
It's also the case that the Thais were a defeated enemy in 1945, in spite of the fact that the Americans, the people who won the war and have overseen the peace ever since, decided to classify the Thai declarations of war as having been made under duress and not representative of the will of the people of Thailand, and therefore dealt with the Thais as one of the countries that had been oppressed and occupied by the Japanese.
It is simply not true that the British, who in their mortal fury at having been rolled over rather easily by the Japanese were out for whatever they could get to salvage some sense of having a penis amongst their millions, tried to force the Thais to pay reparations and insisted on treating them as defeated enemies. Neither is it true that the Yanks stepped in and put a stop to this impotent charade, making sure the Thais paid virtually nothing to the emasculated former colonial big swinging dick. Fact is, the Thais were a defeated enemy and Pearl Harbour was 1942.
These things all become clear once you've lived here long enough.
I really do not know what kind of shit you are smoking, but it is sure enough fucking with your head.:(
^Sorry. Some fool posted that Pearl Harbor was 1942. Said fool tends to be one of these, "I know this because I've lived here 10 years" kind of guys who post opinionated nonsense and treat it as fact because... He also said we should remember that the Thais were defeated enemies in 1945. This is about as correct as 1942 for Pearl Harbor. I was being ironic.
And just to be clear, if what I smoke doesn't fuck my head up, I want my money back.
My bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgang
A day before the Nip invasion of Thailand.
No, your post was an attempt at sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by mao say dung
See how trying to be a smart alec totally backfired on you there?
The Thais declared war on Britain and the US, they were on the Axis side.Quote:
Originally Posted by mao say dung
Not to difficult to understand even for you.
Fucking wikipedia experts are tiresome.
^I'd point you in the direction of pps 279-80 of Terweil's book on Thai political history, but I'm sure in all your years here you've managed to transcend the need to read to get your info on Thai history. And I agree with your assessment of Wikipedia experts, another reason I'm fairly sure you wouldn't be interested in the Terweil.
No, that hasn't happened yet. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mao say dung
Funnily enough, I get most of my factual information on Thailand from literary sources, and try not to generalise just using my experience or opinion as you earlier allege.
However I am entitled to said opinion and I will continue to express it.
By misrepresenting the date of Pearl Harbor (accidentally I may add, I really should have checked), I gave you a golden opportunity to have at me, and to which you did indeed seize the moment, however it all went a bit petty and personal didn't it?
Use the occasion, for it passes swiftly. - Publius Ovidius Naso
I almost forgot my manners there for a moment, and neglected to welcome Ant Robertson back to the forum in his new guise, mao say dung.
Welcome back, old friend and adversary.
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by thehighlander959
Yes mate. Their tanks actually have 6 gears, frogs and iti's; 5 in reverse in times of danger, but one in forward thrust incase the enemy comes from behind!
Frenchies liberated by us twice in a century because of their own ineptitude and incompetence but the attitude lives on, dunnit.
^ Agree. WWI and WWII should have remained European issues. But in WWII I do think that a possible Soviet victory and march west may have been a motivator for the US. I don't know. Was the possible emergence of the USSR after WWII known or predicted or thought about by the US leaders and military people.
I would assume it was.
The Soviets got to Berlin first because the British and Americans ran out of gasoline and had to wait for it to be re-supplied.
Hats off to the D-Day forces. Very, very few, returned alive.
Thanks for adding real footage, Guys. Today, I was rereading Gram's letters from the War Department about my cousin's death (Ranger 3rd Battalion, WWII -- he died well before D-Day, but..), etc (hey, the post only took four days to arrive from Washington, DC, to Buttfek Nowhere, Alberta, in the 1940s!), and parts of Darby's Rangers We Led the Way book. I shouldn't do that coz I always cry and then I get fat face.:(
Doesn't matter what country any of these kids were from, they were fighting for what they believed was right (even the Germans and the Jpn -- brain-washed or not). Just makes me sick that so many that died were just young lads.
Thanks to PompeyB and highlander959 for the tank details. That made me laugh. :)
You forgot about the Aussies and the Kiwis Jettie! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
There was a race to Berlin by two Soviet army groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milkman
Eisenhower, in one of his several blunders towards the end of the war, allowed the Soviets to take Berlin, while diverting Allied power to the South.
according to sarkozy d-day was franco/american affair.the truth is the majority of soldiers were british,canadian,australian and other commonwealth troops and the french were hiding under their mothers beds.how quickly they forget
why did they plant trees on the champs elysiee?
so the germans could march in the shade
I didna know they were at the beaches in Normandy...If so, my apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
You'll have to duke it out with Chairman Mao over who gets to claim MSD as some old adversary (and I suspect bum-buddy). He thinks I'm Smeg and regularly reds me for it. The only other nic I've ever had is the one I used at Ajarn Forum until I was banned permanently from there: emjay.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorTud
Sarcasm, by the way, is a subset of irony, no matter how long one lives in Thailand.
And your opinion about the Thais having been a defeated enemy is a defensible one; it is not, however, some kind of incontrovertible historical fact.
I'm glad that living here for upwards of a decade hasn't caused you to forgo "literary" sources for your "historical" information, a laudable, if novel, approach.