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ok thought id run this by you guys
how do you go about getting a visa for thai girl, friends been asking and im not really sure what is needed and involved he has been with her since 2004 theyre not married and he wants to get her over here for a while, what visa will he need, and what are the requirements, money, land papers etc?
He could start off by looking here as these muppets handle the visa applications nowadays.
UK Visa
I did mine for the wife a few years ago with them but recently things might have changed. With them not being married could count against. Proof of enough cash to support her for the stay i.e a big wedge in savings or proof of a steady income or sponsor. The rests a bit hazy I'm afraid.
^^My mate has just started the process himself, i'll ask him next time i see or speak to him.
that would be cool, appreciate that
He`ll need a VAF1
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/resources/...s/1903073/vaf1
Heres the guidance notes.
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/resources/...3073/vaf1guide
He said all you want is on here,
Visas homepage[at]British Embassy, Bangkok
down laod sponsirship undertaking form, SU 07/01 and
Visitor application form, VAF1 (latest edition) form.
If he can prove a relationship going back that long it will be easy. Photos, emails, phone bills etc all help prove contact.
Is he in the UK and visits her in thailand or are they both in Thailand and visiting the UK? If he's based in the UK then needs proof of funds or steady income, proof of suitable accommodation and a letter of sponsorship. She may be asked why she wants to go to the UK and what she will do there. Will also have to provide grounds for return to Thailand, eg. property, work etc. If she works she will have to show that she can get time off for the trip (are we talking 6 months or 2 weeks?).
A good place to look is on Thailand-UK Website which was set up to help people with these issues. The Visas homepage can make it look deceptively simple when it isn't unless you provide a lot that they don't specifically ask for.
No it won't !:(Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRed
Even if you supply all of everything they ask for, they can and do still refuse.
You might be able to tell I'm bitter.
Very good luck to you.
Yes, some cast irons have been thrown out in the past.
There are several things that help, look through the links that have been posted and put yourself together a good application, if you have anything missing from their required documentation, explain the reasons in a covering letter.
Reason to return can be a difficult hurdle, but not an altogether impassable one, lean on strong family ties, if nothing else.
Good Luck
Moss
If it is just a visitors visa you need to show a reason for her to return.
My missus has had two visa's issued without any hassles. However she has a house, apartment, land and money in the bank. First visa she was working and paid for all her costs over to the UK - wrote a letter stating this. Visa was issued.
2nd she was out here in Korea with me half the year or so. Not working. I wrote a letter stating that as she was now my wife I would be paying. She still showed her bank statements, house/land/apartment papers which is a big thing.
Entirely agree, as I said, they make it look deceptively simple when it isn't unless you provide a lot that they don't specifically ask for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooter
I urge everyone who is trying to get a UK visa for a Thai to look through Thailand-UK Website and then ask a few questions there. I hesitate to offer advice directly because the rules are changing all the time.
I hope DD doesn't mind my pushing the site, but it is by far the best reference for people trying to get a visa for a Thai and has lots about NI numbers etc. as well. My connection to it is as someone who stumbled across it when the first visa application for my wife was turned down, I'd never have got the second one through without their help. If you read what they say and apply it you don't need lawyers or any other help. If you can prove contact over 12-18 months you will get a visa provided you follow the advice there.
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BigRed is right there. I used that site when applying for the wifes visa, and she got it first time
They did make it appear deceptively simple. Think it was 2 years ago not long after it opened. Followed their instructions on the site etc to a tee, went to hand it in and it was "wheres form X" or "copy of X with original" if someones done it recently buy them a beer and eek every bit of info out you can.
Example is this. I was told by someone working there that I could hand the forms in for the wife, not true she had to. I think we went 3 times until we had everything they wanted, half of which wasnt on the site or in any info they provided.
^if it was the receptionist or the people at this visa centre you might not have needed the stuff anyway. I got two tourist visas for my wife with no problem, but the second time I went some fat receptionist told me I needed all this extra stuff... I'd read the website and told her I didn't, she said if I put in the application it might fail, i told her to put the application in anyway. When I went in to pick up the passport i spoke to one of the embassy guys and he told me that she basically didn't know what she was talking about and the visa was given, no problem.
This was after we had waited and gone up to the counter. It was about a month after it had first opened, I cant remember exactly how long ago. The staff were even more clueless then.
Just remembered. Checklist on the website, downloaded it and got everything. Got to the desk handed it all and with the checklist. "This is an old checklist, the new ones over there" I was fuming "Dont you think it would be a good idea to update the website?" they did it the next day.
Even if you don't succeed in getting the visa, first time around. Re-submit the application and you will find that second time round visa is approved and good to go. So don't get disheartened if you got rejected at the first attempt. Just try again.
None of the staff in the visa centre are embassy officials and none of them have the right to grant a visa. Fair enough, they might only be trying to help by making sure you have more than enough information, but the information you get from the websites IS official and if they contradict it then they ARE wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by melvbot
In my case I was applying for a second tourist visa within 2 years and hence it's very straightforward and just a case of re-submitting pretty much the same docs. She tried to get first me, then my wife to go for an interview. I refused as we didn't have one the first time and there's no way we needed one.
Remember if your wife is going alone tell her not to speak to any of the touts outside or show any documents to them. Walk on by or they will mess her head up.
cheers chaps ill pass it all on, anything else? oh he is in the uk, wants to get it sorted from the uk, is it all down to her?
Hi mrssquirrel,Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsquirrel
although I don't disagree that RtR is quite an important issue on a VV, it is not always the be all and end all, if you have covered all other bases and prepared an otherwise good application, you can still get through without an obvious RtR.
Moss
As part of the reason to return, she can say that she's in a strong, loving and caring relationship with her man, and she intends to return because she doesn't want to jeopardise her chances of visiting the UK again to see him (info gleaned from the T-UK website).
I think it was about three years ago that we went back to the u.k. I think one of the most important pieces of info we had was a letter from her boss saying that she had to back at work in 4 weeks.And one from mine too saying the same thing. I didn't take any of the photo stuff or phone records. I'd been out here on a single trip for about 3 years at the time so had no Eng-Thai comunication records. She dressed in a conservative way as she did for work everyday and we had no problems and got stamped that afternoon. But there were guys in that snake style que that knew each other from being in that que before. They were laughing and jokeing with each other about how many times they'ed tried before. Thier girlfriends or wife's were dressed just like they'ed stepped out the bar and they were sporting singha vests and boardies. Now this is no way supposed to sound snobby but in a country that is always looking at apperance if you want to impress then conform. If its only for the 2 hours whilst your trying to get a visa.
Great responces, Thanks everyone. Stupid question but on a form like this http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/resources/...s/1903073/vaf1
As the girl is my fiance can she refer to me and my family as family?
No - A good help would be for you to provide evidence of wedding plans and tentative booking for same at your local registry office.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_dog
Have you looked at getting her a fiance visa rather than a tourist visa? Could be easier !
You cannot book a wedding until the foreign national has arrived in the UK however you can possibly book a reception etc. If you intend marrying her just explain under reference number AECIP 83/03 i have been unable to secure a booking.
Sorry you are wrong there :(Quote:
Originally Posted by AZZZEY68
Registry offices in the UK will accept tentative bookings and give a reply in writing - with the provisio that can be confirmed if the Visa is granted.
This letter should accompany the application for a Fiance visa.
:)
For what its worth we added to the paper work requested and had no problem the last 2 trips.
By added I mean a letter from a relative (house owner) in the UK with a bit of financial detail, offering a sort of back up sponsorship / guarantee. Seemed to help.
Good luck.
I'm afraid not and if they are then they are not aware of the rules themselves which is generally the case. This is from the area registrar a client only last week was given permission to book one he mentioned this ref number they rang back and cancelled his booking . This goes in with all my applications and i have had no problems at all if you manage to get a booking well done however this covers you should you not.
Duly enclosed:
AECIP 83/03 states :
"A reminder has now issued to all our offices overseas (under reference AECIP 83/03). The relevant section of this AECIP reads as follows:
"1. There has been some confusion over whether ECOs [Entry Clearance Officers] should be asking for confirmation of wedding bookings at a registry office. This should not be happening. Registrars cannot make arrangements until the foreign national has arrived in the UK.
"2. ECMs [Managers] are therefore asked to re-acquaint themselves and their staff with the procedures outlined in DSP 13.9".
If you wish to view this section of Diplomatic Service Procedures, you will find it at: Entry Clearance Guidance - General Instructions
The Entry Clearance Office (ECO) needs to be satisfied that it is intended that a marriage in the UK will take place. Any evidence that may be available that wedding arrangements are in hand may help in this respect. Failing that, the ECO can reasonably expect you to have made some tentative plans for the wedding. The ECO will, however, be aware from our published procedures that "the law relating to marriage in England and Wales does not allow for any arrangements to be made with a Registrar until the foreign national has arrived in the UK.
That just about sums it up wrong i am not :ourrules:
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Originally Posted by AZZZEY68
you may or may not be wrong. It is difficult to tell as your grammar is very confusing
if you are an agent, no wonder so many people are confused
would you like to buy some commas?
The email is direct from the area registrar and the rules are very clear on the subject. I was in fact trying to help the guy nothing more the information has been posted should he require it.