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I live in fear that this will happen to my two pals.......
However, I hear that if you are very quick you may save them by making them sick. This can be effected by pouring a raw egg down their throat or a couple of spoons of Hydrogen Peroxide I am reliably told. Don't like the sound of the latter...
Or perhaps the inestimable November Rain knows better?
The frist time I read this, I saw irrresistable not inestimable :)
Not wearing me specs - how much is that lasik eye surgery Ned???
It's sad that 'man's best friend' is treated so badly by Thai people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckydog
Fek, there's 3 or 4 threads on here advising on the best poisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shitman
^Where's the thread on giving mouth to mouth resuscitation on animals? :)
Hmmmm, that might actually be useful.
In fact, I know that you exhale through the NOSE for canines!!!
Let me find some facts to support this...
Elsevier Article Locator
here you go! and a peer-reviewed article at that! :)
You need to be very careful, LD as vomiting can increase the risk factor of some poisons. I've also heard the egg remedy, as well as mustard & milk & large quantities of soda water (??) - to make them vomit (as I said, not always the best bet).
My advice is to go to the pharmacy now/tomorrow and buy some charcoal tablets & keep them in your first aid box. Should the unthinkable happen, force two or three charcoal tablets down them (they absorb the poison) and get them straight to the vet - as they'll need specialist treatment & possibly an IV.
Got to be careful here. Most poisons used are rat poisons. Problem is there are several types. Generally, inducing vomiting is the best thing to do but if the dog is having seizures you probably shouldn't. Knowing symptoms is the key to doing the right thing. Check out this link to learn about symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckydog
Dog Poison Care
In any case always get the dog to the vet as quickly as you can and they will likely survive. Mine did even though I thought he was a gonner. BTW, nobody poisoned him. He like other dogs will eat just about anything including a rat dead from poison.
no idea what poison the neighbour used on mine but they started convulsing very quickly but died very slowly over a few hours.
i don't want to read this thread again if i think there was something i could have done that i didn't.
CMN, unfortunately, unless you see the dogs eat the poison & realise what it is, you're very likely too late. I know what to do & we've lost far more dogs than we've saved through poison. It's all just a matter of being in the right place at the right time, sadly. By the time you notice symptoms it's usually touch & go or too late. :(
We tried the raw egg remedy when our dog was poisoned. It induced vomiting but only spared the poor dog for a few days, it eventually died of pneumonia.
Our dog Pepsi only eats from us. Want to know how?
I know exactly the feeling helplessness you had watching your dog die. The same happened to me many years ago. Fact is there are times nothing you could have done would have saved him so don't beat yourself up. Being able to spot symptoms of a sick dog is important for any dog owner. When I decided it was time for a new best friend, I vowed I would learn all I could to prevent a recurrence of what happened with the little guy that died.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
Amen. With most of the poisons readily available in Thailand off the shelf, you have about an hour to have any hope of saving the dog.Quote:
Originally Posted by November Rain
NR, We find most of the poisonings here in Isaan are not deliberate but usually the dog gets into the poison out of natural curiosity. Is this the case in your area or do you suspect more are deliberately poisoned?
A lot of times when dogs are poisoned it can be traced back to the owner that never taught his dogs any manners and the dog had become a nuisance by either barking all the time or destroying property.
But then of coarse there are people who are just assholes..
You can but 90 percent arsenic here from most shops, you aint gonna save your dogs if they have eaten that :(
You gotta be gutless to poison a dog, if they piss you off and there is enough of the fvcking mongrels that do around here, just smack them over the head with a big stick.
Mind you its the owners or ex owners that need a smacking but sadly its illegal
Works for me. Learned it from the Isaan villager folk.Quote:
Originally Posted by peterpan
Unfortunately, modus operandi for Thai b&e gangs involves poisoning all the dogs in the area just after midnight and then do the b&e a few hours later.
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Originally Posted by hillbilly
Keeping the dog inside the house is one option. But the only other option is as HB says. So, HB, how do you do it?
Yes, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by hillbilly
Most of ours were poisoned deliberately. One got into paint, but we saved him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
Yup! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by JoGeAr
I have had most of my gun dogs trained so they will not eat anything unless I give it to them or it is in their own feed bowl.
Takes a little time, but hunting in the uplands of PNW where there is still some govt trappers that use poison for pests it is the only way that you are sure of your dog going home with you and still breathing.
I have some neighbors in my new home that I have already taught some choice words in English, they have yappy dogs that make vocal sounds that are uncalled for, for no reason. Now if they can find out what Motherfuckers means.
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Originally Posted by JoGeAr
Think we have reached a sufficient level of begging. Please...........!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by November Rain
Please, tell us how. dejavousQuote:
Originally Posted by blackgang
My dogs died within hours as well, there was nothing I could do except watching them die slowly in front of me. I have no feelings for people who poison dogs, and I would gladly give them the same treatment as they give the dogs.
To teach a dog to only eat the food you give it is extremely difficult and involves constant supervision, most dog owners are never going to do it.
^ Yep, and if you have three or four dogs, then it's mission impossible..
I have had no luck with just 1 dog, but is simple with 2 or more, as then you have something to work with to start, so the dog thinks, now just which dish can I eaqt ouit of without getting my ass ate out, and then just go from there.
I don't know how it would work with Thai dogs as they do not seem to be as civilized as other dogs, kind of like the people, ain't been out of the trees long and not to domesticated.
Easiest I have ever tried with was a Springer Spaniel that I had had since she was 28 days old and was with her a lot and a German wirehair pointer, but I raised both dogs and they paid attention to me when I spoke to them.
and I was the only one that was allowed to feed or work the dogs and they worked well together even tho one was a jump dog and the other was a pointer, and it is something to see when a springer honors a point.
https://teakdoor.com/Gallery/albums/u...m133581396.jpg
Was it similar to this Hillbilly? a friends wife discovered that by putting gloves on their dog stopped it picking up food and eating it, so she says, the dog gets quite excited when she puts the gloves on it. I suppose it knows it will not be poisoned.
Thats true old bean. My two will ignore nice fresh chicken in their feeding bowl and eat ravenously any bit of rotting food they find outside on a walk.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydog
They are often sick from that too!
It's a worry.........
ireckon any one who poisons a dog should be made to eat their own handy work!
A little off the subject of poisoning. But close. I had a terrible experience just 3 weeks ago today. Took my 10 year old pooch for her evening walk down to the river. Was sitting down watching the sun set when I noticed she was eating something. Tried to get it out of her mouth and then notice a fishing line coming from her throat. Yep, -- she dam well ate a fishing line with a baited hook on the end. It was well down and no chance of retrieving it. Though I did try with my fingers down her throat as far as I could reach.
Anyway, as I live in a remote town I had to fly her out to see a Vet. Luckily the hook snagged at the exit of her stomach and didn't enter the intestines, so they were able to retrieve it via endoscope. $1,300 later she is home and doing fine.
^ Good to hear that..:)
^^, I had about that same thing happen once.
I had a small motorhome that I used for work away from home and I fishing/hunting trips and something was wrong under the thing, I do not remember what but it is of no consequence anyway, but I was under it just behind the doorway/steps into it and a young dog I had was out fooling around and she jumped back into the vehicle and I saw a piece of mono line trailing, so I called her and she came to me and the line was coming out of her mouth, it was a baited hook with a worm on it, she always ate worms in the yard that came up after a rain, well lucky that the hook was just in her lip but you can not just pull a hook out, but another lucky thing was the hook was large enough to shove it on thru and cut the barb off and then slip it out..
The worst thing I have ever had happen to a dog, and it has happen more than once living on a ranch and in isolation as I have, is a dog that will fight and try to kill porcupines,, I did see some pics on the net awhile back of a pit bull that had tangled with one..But I do not remember where, if I can I will post em..
Herte ia a link of one, and I sure am glad my Bull Terrier didn't run across one when we lived in the woods at Chesaw Washington.
Pit Bull vs. Porcupine (Photos) - Netlore Archive
^ Porcupines and skunks. Bad news.
For poisoning, I used a load of salt or dry (hot) mustard on the back of the tongue to enduce vomiting. Then shovel 6-12 raw eggs down the kid's throat to bind the remaining poison so it isn't absorbed from the intestines. Then charcoal to neutralise it if you have any. I saved one pup -- shot into my bedroom vomiting and shitting and going crazy racing all over. That was the first time (always seems to happen at night when there's no vet open). The second time, I was out and didn't get her in time.
Gotta be careful tho, coz if the jerks put down a caustic poison (like drain cleaner) you don't want pup to throw that burn back up. Not much hope there.:(