Speed Limit Will Be Raised to 120kph in April

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27-02-2021, 06:31 PM
misskit

Speed Limit Will Be Raised to 120kph in April

BANGKOK (NNT) - The speed limit for roads with four lanes or more will be raised from 90 kilometres per hour to 120kph.

Transport Minister Saksayam Chidchob said the new speed limit should be announced in the Royal Gazette by April, after a study by the Department of Highways, Department of Rural Roads, Department of Land Transport and Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning.

He said the new speed limit aims to help traffic flow under current traffic conditions while ensuring road users’ convenience and safety.

Saksayam explained the ministry found it was suitable to raise the speed limit for personal vehicles of less than seven seats from 90kph to 120kph on straight sections of roads with more than four lanes and no intersections or U-turns. The ministry will also raise the speed limit for other vehicles on eligible roads.

https://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news/d...10227121941618
27-02-2021, 06:56 PM
Saint Willy

It was only 90?? :shrug:
27-02-2021, 07:21 PM
Troy

^ It is nationally on dual carriageways unless otherwise stated. I think 120 is going to kill a few more people up our way, 90 was too fast for many.
27-02-2021, 09:10 PM
jabir

Won't hear from the same goon come Songkran, he'll be in the back room trying to figure out why his cunning plan failed, while some underling does the now familiar whinge about speed causing so many extra road deaths; then the booze tsar will say no more booze between whichever hours the darts land, dear leader will promise that something might or might not be done about these needless deaths, and Immigration will save the day by blaming the farang.
28-02-2021, 03:32 AM
Farang Ky Ay

Not many 4 lanes road without U-turn up North but anyway, many people tend to drive faster than 90 kph, me included and I'm not a fast driver... in some places the speed limit is not adapted to road design (e.g 60 in straight 2 lane road with no junction nearby), I hope they plan to review that.

I guess they could assess their new policy when they get sufficient hindsight (road deaths trend, number of accident where a speed of 90 instead of 120 would have changed significantly the outcome...).
28-02-2021, 04:40 AM
Backspin

About bloody time. How well was 90 enforced anyway ?
28-02-2021, 05:35 AM
Fondles

Wish they would increase the limit on the 7 motorway, sick of getting speeding fines in the mail.
28-02-2021, 05:38 AM
panama hat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backspin

About bloody time. How well was 90 enforced anyway ?

And that's the problem - how well will 120 be enforced? Hardly at all - more deaths
28-02-2021, 06:02 AM
Buckaroo Banzai

They will raise it to 120 because 90 is working out so well.
Will it be April 1st ?
28-02-2021, 06:38 AM
Pragmatic

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealKW

It was only 90??

The maximum speed limit in Thailand is/was 90 km unless otherwise indicated. :ourrules:
28-02-2021, 06:54 AM
Saint Willy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

The maximum speed limit in Thailand is/was 90 km unless otherwise indicated. :ourrules:

Fair enough and noted. I must admit, I assumed 4 lane carriageways where 100, 110 or 120. I cannot fathom them being 90.
28-02-2021, 07:07 AM
Fondles

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Originally Posted by panama hat

And that's the problem - how well will 120 be enforced? Hardly at all - more deaths

The roads this will cover most already drive at 120km/h+ anyways.

Enforcement is via speed camera's.. I average at least a dozen tickets a month.
28-02-2021, 08:03 AM
Pragmatic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fondles

I average at least a dozen tickets a month.

Is that something to be proud of?
28-02-2021, 08:16 AM
thailazer

No enforcement from what I can see. Got a company van to Rayong a few months back and the driver kept trying to drive 130 kph within a car length of the vehicle in front. I kept yelling at him in Thai to slow down every time he sped up again. Thai drivers are THE worst in the world even if they work for you.
28-02-2021, 09:23 AM
Backspin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fondles

The roads this will cover most already drive at 120km/h+ anyways.

Enforcement is via speed camera's.. I average at least a dozen tickets a month.

How much do those cost you ?
28-02-2021, 09:41 AM
Pragmatic
Quote:

Originally Posted by Backspin

How much do those cost you ?

He pays by Direct Debit. :)
Quote:
The following fines operate on the entire territory of the Kingdom and does not vary depending on the cities/provinces:

Driving without license plate – 400 baht (see currency of Thailand, the exchange rate)
The red color of the traffic light – 300 baht
Reckless driving – 400 baht
A turn in the wrong place – 400 baht
Parking in the wrong place – 200 baht (plus evacuation)
Driving without insurance – 600 baht
Traffic in the opposite lane – 200 baht
Driving vehicle without driving license of the corresponding category 400 baht 1000 baht
Driving vehicle without registration (registration certificate) – 400 baht
The blocking of the fare is 200 baht
A motorcycle (motorbike) without a helmet is 200 baht
Driving while intoxicated or refusing honey.examination up to one year in prison or a fine of 5,000 to 20,000 baht, disqualification from driving for 6 months
Control the vehicle in a drunken state, if it resulted in infliction of injury to others from one to five years in prison or fine of 20 000 to 100 000 baht, disqualification from driving for 1 year
Control the vehicle in a drunken state, if it led to the infliction of grievous bodily harm to others from two to six years in prison or a fine of 40,000 to 120,000 baht, disqualification from driving for 1 year
Control the vehicle in a drunken state, if it resulted in infliction of death to other persons – from three to ten years in prison and a fine of 60 000 to 200 000 baht, the cancellation of driver's license
28-02-2021, 10:10 AM
Fondles

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Is that something to be proud of?

Where did I say I was proud ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backspin

How much do those cost you ?

only 500 a pop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

He pays by Direct Debit. :)

My assistant pays via an APP on her phone.
28-02-2021, 10:13 AM
Pragmatic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fondles

Where did I say I was proud ?

Calm down. I was asking a question and not quoting you.
28-02-2021, 10:53 AM
VocalNeal

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Originally Posted by Fondles

I average at least a dozen tickets a month.

Slow learner?

If going to Pattaya outside BKK it is already 120 except for the occasional klong bridge where it reduces to 90 to avoid unexpected take-off.

BTW The speed limit within Bangkok is 80 kph. This includes tollways and Hwy 7
28-02-2021, 11:21 AM
harrybarracuda

Quote:

Originally Posted by thailazer

No enforcement from what I can see. Got a company van to Rayong a few months back and the driver kept trying to drive 130 kph within a car length of the vehicle in front. I kept yelling at him in Thai to slow down every time he sped up again. Thai drivers are THE worst in the world even if they work for you.

A video of the event to company management might have been prudent before he kills someone.
28-02-2021, 12:37 PM
Stumpy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fondles

Enforcement is via speed camera's.. I average at least a dozen tickets a month.

I always cruise along 120 to 130 from Sattahip to Lampang. While the speed limit is 90, the cameras are typically set at 110ish before they activate and their range and field is view is very narrow. The camera set ups are easy to see. Virtually all are on walk overs as that's the only place power exists. When you see a speed camera sign, just look at the walk over coming up and slow down then speed back up. There a few hidden ones but I located them and remember when getting near them.

As for the speed law changing, I think it will have minimal impact on accidents, most of the road accidents are typically motorcycle related and on those big highways scooters are not out on them. I just drove back from Koh Chang. I didn't see one accident and I zipped along at 120+
28-02-2021, 05:42 PM
Fondles

Quote:

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

Slow learner?

If going to Pattaya outside BKK it is already 120 except for the occasional klong bridge where it reduces to 90 to avoid unexpected take-off.

BTW The speed limit within Bangkok is 80 kph. This includes tollways and Hwy 7

Am on my second can of Leo 8 when I go past the camera and i forget..... Mile marker 62.4 is the current location of the camera... I think.

FWIW between Patts and BKK on the 7 there is 4 camera's... in each direction.
28-02-2021, 05:58 PM
Troy

^ Too fast for the NE in my opinion. The new highways cut through villages with no side roads. The 60 limit is ignored and this results in large differences in speed. The U-turns are too far apart and without underpasses tractors and motorbikes end up crossing the central reservation. Hell, I've seen all sorts of traffic going in the opposite direction of the fast lane as a short cut to junctions.

It may be okay in the Bangkok/Pattaya area to travel fast. Less so in the more rural areas.

I am used to driving fast, living in Germany, but 90-100 is plenty fast enough where we are.
28-02-2021, 06:17 PM
Fondles

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Too fast for the NE in my opinion. The new highways cut through villages with no side roads. The 60 limit is ignored and this results in large differences in speed. The U-turns are too far apart and without underpasses tractors and motorbikes end up crossing the central reservation. Hell, I've seen all sorts of traffic going in the opposite direction of the fast lane as a short cut to junctions.

It may be okay in the Bangkok/Pattaya area to travel fast. Less so in the more rural areas.

I am used to driving fast, living in Germany, but 90-100 is plenty fast enough where we are.

Does not apply to those roads that have U-Turns.
28-02-2021, 09:36 PM
Wakey
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Driving without insurance – 600 baht
Driving vehicle without driving license of the corresponding category 400 baht 1000 baht
Why bother to get a licence and insurance when it's cheaper to not have them
01-03-2021, 07:12 AM
Stumpy

Having a license or insurance only matters at roadside stops. Cameras obviously can't determine if you have a license or insurance. However as a foreigner you better have both. You get caught or in an accident I can almost guarantee it will cost you a lot more.

In general here, fines are not a deterrent and there are no real consequences if you do not pay them. I know a Thai quality manager that gets a few camera tickets every month or so and he tosses them in the trash.
01-03-2021, 07:36 AM
Loy Toy

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Originally Posted by JPPR2

In general here, fines are not a deterrent and there are no real consequences if you do not pay them. I know a Thai quality manager that gets a few camera tickets every month or so and he tosses them in the trash.

I know for a fact that the non payment of fines will affect your ability to reregister your car as such records are looked at during the process of registration.

If there are unpaid fines associated with the vehicle registration number it will be exposed.
01-03-2021, 12:57 PM
Neverna

Not a lot of people re-register their cars, but I suppose you mean when selling the vehicle to somebody else.
01-03-2021, 01:01 PM
Fondles

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neverna

Not a lot of people re-register their cars, but I suppose you mean when selling the vehicle to somebody else.

I find it handy to keep my insurance valid.
01-03-2021, 01:12 PM
aging one

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neverna

Not a lot of people re-register their cars, but I suppose you mean when selling the vehicle to somebody else.

You have to do it every year. Mine just had to have a check up to get the renewal as it turned 6 years old.
01-03-2021, 01:34 PM
Fondles

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Originally Posted by aging one

You have to do it every year. Mine just had to have a check up to get the renewal as it turned 6 years old.

Used to be 7 years old they need an inspection... wonder when that changed ?
01-03-2021, 01:44 PM
Stumpy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I know for a fact that the non payment of fines will affect your ability to reregister your car as such records are looked at during the process of registration.

If there are unpaid fines associated with the vehicle registration number it will be exposed.

It is my understanding LT it all depends on what province you got a camera ticket. Outside BKK and probably CB most are not linked to a main data base system that it can be confirmed. I have gotten a few over the years somewhere between Nakhon Sawan and Tak and my wife just tossed them and I have never been asked when registering my truck.

In the end. They aren't a lot of money. I have no issue paying
01-03-2021, 02:25 PM
Fondles

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPPR2

It is my understanding LT it all depends on what province you got a camera ticket. Outside BKK and probably CB most are not linked to a main data base system that it can be confirmed. I have gotten a few over the years somewhere between Nakhon Sawan and Tak and my wife just tossed them and I have never been asked when registering my truck.

In the end. They aren't a lot of money. I have no issue paying

It's definitely a thing in Chonburi as 2 work colleagues found out late last year when trying to renew their road tax.... was a fuck around to pay the fines and get the matter cleared.

FWIW vehicles have Chonburi plates and fines are from the 7 motorway from a camera in Chonburi.
01-03-2021, 04:06 PM
Loy Toy

^ That is what I meant. When you pay your annual road tax if unpaid traffic fines appear you have a problem.
01-03-2021, 04:50 PM
aging one

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fondles

Used to be 7 years old they need an inspection... wonder when that changed ?

Could be from year 6 to year 7 mate. Just know this is the first year I had to do it.
01-03-2021, 04:57 PM
Neverna

Quote:

Originally Posted by aging one

You have to do it every year. Mine just had to have a check up to get the renewal as it turned 6 years old.

You have to renew your road tax each year, ao, which is what you're probably thinking of. There's no need to re-register your vehicle.
01-03-2021, 05:03 PM
aging one

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neverna

You have to renew your road tax each year, ao, which is what you're probably thinking of. There's no need to re-register your vehicle.

Yup, thanks mate..