Too much rubbish these days.

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15-10-2007, 11:24 AM
Begbie

Too much rubbish these days.

Perhaps it's just me, but I'm seeing a drop off in the percentage of quality on this board. We've been getting a higher new thread frequency recently, but as a result, seem to be getting swamped with obvious trolls even if they are sometimes consigned to Moronic Kiddies.

By quality I mean the construction threads, gardening, the pictorial travel threads (thanks Wayne Kerr, Sledge et al.), the multimedia and a few others.

I realise that I can put some sections on ignore, but that's not the point. The general ambience of the board is being dragged down.

Maybe it's time to dropkick a few idiots, no-banning policy not withstanding.
15-10-2007, 11:35 AM
cali kid

Couldnt agree more....
15-10-2007, 11:42 AM
Marmite the Dog

That is the downside to TD's open policy I'm afraid. Maybe DD should limit CMN, KW, NickA, MtD & terry57 to 20 posts a day.

Then they might post something worthwhile once in a while.
15-10-2007, 11:42 AM
Rigger

TD goes through stages depending on the moon some times everyone plays nice and other times they attacking each other. Also with all the new members there are a lot more push and shove but it will settle down soon enough
15-10-2007, 12:08 PM
Begbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

That is the downside to TD's open policy I'm afraid. Maybe DD should limit CMN, KW, NickA, MtD & terry57 to 20 posts a day.

Then they might post something worthwhile once in a while.

That reply in itself is a bit of a Troll. CMN, KW and NickA are reasonable posters. I've been following CMNs new house in the sticks thread.

Perhaps a change in the software can allow the quality threads to remain on top and the garbage to sink.
15-10-2007, 12:11 PM
AntRobertson

Who do you propose is voted off the Island ("dropkicked") then?
15-10-2007, 12:14 PM
Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

That reply in itself is a bit of a Troll.

I do hate that term "troll". Anything could be construed as trolling if you were really that anal. I prefer to call it humour. It might be crap humour, but humour nonetheless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

Perhaps a change in the software can allow the quality threads to remain on top and the garbage to sink.

Just filter The Lounge, Issues, News, Games, Newbies & MKP from your New Posts search and you should be ok.
15-10-2007, 12:15 PM
Begbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Who do you propose is voted off the Island ("dropkicked") then?

Reasonable question.
15-10-2007, 12:16 PM
Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

I've been following CMNs new house in the sticks thread.

It's quite exciting, that one. When do you reckon the house will be ready? 2245?
15-10-2007, 12:20 PM
AntRobertson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

When do you reckon the house will be ready? 2245?

I just want to know when the focker is going to come pick up this bloody door that's taking up space at the back of my house!?!
15-10-2007, 12:21 PM
Begbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

That reply in itself is a bit of a Troll.

I do hate that term "troll". Anything could be construed as trolling if you were really that anal. I prefer to call it humour. It might be crap humour, but humour nonetheless.

Humourous as was my reply, perhaps we're both being anal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

Perhaps a change in the software can allow the quality threads to remain on top and the garbage to sink.

Just filter The Lounge, Issues, News, Games, Newbies & MKP from your New Posts search and you should be ok.

Or I could filter out the entire forum. The point I'm trying to make is that, I don't know if there's a reasonable way to encourage quality but it would be nice to at least try.
15-10-2007, 12:23 PM
AntRobertson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Who do you propose is voted off the Island ("dropkicked") then?

Reasonable question.

Ok, so that's:

1) AntRobertson;

Now who else?
15-10-2007, 12:26 PM
chitown

I am not for banning, but I wish there was a flag policy. If enough of the members flagged a post or a topic or a thread, it could be sent to a trash bin and veiwed there!!!!!

Begbie, I hope my posts and threads are not included when you talk about rubbish. :(
15-10-2007, 12:28 PM
Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

Humourous as was my reply, perhaps we're both being anal.

When I said 'you', it was meant 'anyone', not specifically you. Maybe I should've said 'one'?
15-10-2007, 12:32 PM
Begbie

Marmite of course you're right but drifting away from the subject.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chitown

I am not for banning, but I wish there was a flag policy. If enough of the members flagged a post or a topic or a thread, it could be sent to a trash bin and veiwed there!!!!!

We need a trash flag. Seems like a very good idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chitown

Begbie, I hope my posts and threads are not included when you talk about rubbish. :(

I certainly wasn't referring to you.
15-10-2007, 12:33 PM
kingwilly

ebbs and flow, ebbs and flow.
15-10-2007, 12:34 PM
Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by chitown

I am not for banning, but I wish there was a flag policy. If enough of the members flagged a post or a topic or a thread, it could be sent to a trash bin and veiwed there!!!!!

A bit like the 'Rate Thread' feature?
15-10-2007, 12:34 PM
lom

There's this "Mark Forum Read" button that I have started to use since a couple of month back..
Very useful when you're checking unread threads and find that there are 96 new in the last 3 hours. Zap. Now I'm updated again :)
15-10-2007, 12:36 PM
kingwilly

Quote:

Originally Posted by lom

There's this "Mark Forum Read" button that I have started to use since a couple of month back..
Very useful when you're checking unread threads and find that there are 96 new in the last 3 hours. Zap. Now I'm updated again :)

i just quickly read them all and make sure i reply as well! :D
15-10-2007, 12:37 PM
kingwilly

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

Marmite of course you're right but drifting away from the subject.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chitown

I am not for banning, but I wish there was a flag policy. If enough of the members flagged a post or a topic or a thread, it could be sent to a trash bin and veiwed there!!!!!

We need a trash flag. Seems like a very good idea.

not in favour of the idea, easily abused.

or even if 10 posters hate one thread (eg I refused to even look at TGS post your shit thread, but it seemed to garner many a reply and view, therefore somebody else must have liked it![/quote]

on second thoughts we could all get the bladdy rugby cup thread trashed so none of us have to be reminded anymore......

:kma:
15-10-2007, 12:37 PM
Sir Burr

Get rid of posters that have a number at the end of their name.
eg. yaya21, terry57 etc.
15-10-2007, 12:39 PM
chitown

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by chitown

I am not for banning, but I wish there was a flag policy. If enough of the members flagged a post or a topic or a thread, it could be sent to a trash bin and veiwed there!!!!!

A bit like the 'Rate Thread' feature?

No, as this has a setting where the post or thread is voted off by public opinion. It has to be 2 thirds of the average registered vistors / posters in that day to get something bumped to the bin. Or if the program has a setting, say 20 or 30 or 40 (whatver the webmaster sets it at) flags to get something bumped. A poster can only flag once.

Public opinion rules. Modrators are not blamed for geting rid of rubbish.
15-10-2007, 12:42 PM
Mid

one mans meat is another's poison ...........................
15-10-2007, 12:47 PM
Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mid

one mans meat is another's poison

Exactomundo. Hence, different areas of the forum are moderated differently.

Issues and anything in light blue is fairly heavily moderated.

The interesting stuff at the top of the forum is moderately moderated.

The idiot rooms 'Banal banter' is only moderated in the hour or so that the hair of the dog kicks in.
15-10-2007, 12:53 PM
AntRobertson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mid

one mans meat is another's poison ...........................

Yup. For example:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

By quality I mean the construction threads, gardening, the pictorial travel threads (thanks Wayne Kerr, Sledge et al.), the multimedia and a few others.

the gardening thread bores me to tedium, I've got some chap I pay to pull weeds and the like. And I started a construction thread and was redded and had it 'voted' against for my troubles.

So who is to judge what is 'quality' and what isn't?
15-10-2007, 12:54 PM
Begbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mid

one mans meat is another's poison

Exactomundo. Hence, different areas of the forum are moderated differently.

Issues and anything in light blue is fairly heavily moderated.

The interesting stuff at the top of the forum is moderately moderated.

The idiot rooms 'Banal banter' is only moderated in the hour or so that the hair of the dog kicks in.

Mid ..I'd expect that post from BritMaveric. He may sue you for stealing his act.

Marmite you're missing the point. When I logged on this morning and clicked on new posts it wasn't an attractive prospect. Not a moderation issue. It's a quality issue.
15-10-2007, 12:56 PM
Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

And I started a construction thread and was redded and had it 'voted' against for my troubles.

I doubt that that thread was the reason for the poor vote (as it was quite good apart from the orange wall :) ). More likely due to your bitch fighting that you like to spread across many threads. Which, quite possibly, is part of the reason for this thread.
15-10-2007, 12:58 PM
Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

Marmite you're missing the point.

It wouldn't be the first time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

When I logged on this morning and clicked on new posts it wasn't an attractive prospect. Not a moderation issue. It's a quality issue.

OK. What about culling 75% of posters who came here via TV (and KingWilly)? Do you think that would help?
15-10-2007, 01:03 PM
AntRobertson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I doubt that that thread was the reason for the poor vote (as it was quite good apart from the orange wall ). More likely due to your bitch fighting that you like to spread across many threads. Which, quite possibly, is part of the reason for this thread.

So someone I was 'bitch fighting' with seeks retribution against me by, anonymously, voting against my thread in another forum and I like to spread it across many threads!?! Does not compute, and besides which split-threads by mods hardly counts as me spreading it either.

And if that's part of the reason for this thread the point still stands, who's to decide what's 'quality' and what's not? Will there be some secret cabal of posters monitoring 'quality' levels? A set quota of 'Construction threads' to meet (how many Construction threads as Begbie started?)? Not enough knowledge/advice on the appropriate planting season for lower-Mongolian horseradish and you're out?

And, lastly, who monitors the monitors?
15-10-2007, 01:05 PM
NickA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

When I logged on this morning and clicked on new posts it wasn't an attractive prospect. Not a moderation issue. It's a quality issue.

Best thing is to block any forums you don't like from your New Posts. Can be done in the UserCP. I have issues, diving and newbies blocked.

You could always report the thread if it is really bad.

Othrewise if it's just crappy boring threads in the TD lounge, there isn't much that can be done.

I am putting up shelves at the moment, should I do a thread about that?
15-10-2007, 01:07 PM
NickA

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

who's to decide what's 'quality' and what's not?

Cali kids thread that started off with a picture of a lady pissing over another lady was high quality by any standards. unfortunately it falls below TD's very low decency threshold.:)
15-10-2007, 01:08 PM
kingwilly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

Marmite you're missing the point.

It wouldn't be the first time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Begbie

When I logged on this morning and clicked on new posts it wasn't an attractive prospect. Not a moderation issue. It's a quality issue.

OK. What about culling 75% of posters who came here via TV (and KingWilly)? Do you think that would help?

i just tried to red you for that but i think it was a green, is their someway we can adjust that to teh correct colour please!
15-10-2007, 01:12 PM
Marmite the Dog

KW is obviously colour-blind too.

Newbies Section NO FLAMING, NO ABUSE OR ANY NASTINESS tolerated in this Forum
15-10-2007, 01:13 PM
Whiteshiva

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mid

one mans meat is another's poison

Exactomundo. Hence, different areas of the forum are moderated differently.

As they should be. But Mid has a very valid point. Ideally, selecting what is 'readable' or not is really for the individual poster to decide. I think the clue is to use the 'ignore' function more liberally. If I open a thread, and find most of the posts have been from posters I have put on ignore, I just mark the thread as read and move on. It does save time, and it does not interfer with what other posters do/write/read.

What more can you ask for?
15-10-2007, 02:13 PM
Spin

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I just want to know when the focker is going to come pick up this bloody door that's taking up space at the back of my house!?!

He'll come and get it when he has got somebody whose head needs shutting in it;)

teakdoor is a laugh and not too serious, thats the appeal for me but i agree with the OP that there is a bit more bile around than usual.
15-10-2007, 02:19 PM
in4zip

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Get rid of posters that have a number at the end of their name.
eg. yaya21, terry57 etc.

phew! lucky me!
15-10-2007, 02:23 PM
friscofrankie

Teak Door is growing and with that comes more of everything. Shit AND Shinola. you can have heavier hands moderting the board or you can choose to read what interests you, contribute and reply to decent threadshelping to keep them active by your contribution and actions you cast your vote. Leave the crap unanswered. it's a form of defacto democracy. No need to vote with some check box.

The activity on the board has mushroomed the unobtrusive moderation has remained. Use your own judgment, don't reply in kind to idiots...

If we need playground monitors to keep the kiddies in line I wouldn't want to be here. Growing pains. Can't be easy trying to build board like this.
15-10-2007, 07:09 PM
buad hai

My own opinion is that I'm less interested in a majority of the posts and a majority of the members seem less interested in the stuff I like. I keep posting stuff about garden, flowers, moths, etc., but the interest of most members seems to be elsewhere.

The bottom line is that when I click on "New Posts" in the morning there's very little that I really want to read.

In fact, I often wish that Wayne Kerr would post another photo of one of his wife's home cooked meals....
15-10-2007, 07:23 PM
dirtydog

^I don't even use the new posts function, every time I loggon there are several hundred of the buggers, I just goto the forums I like first, of which the travellers tales is the first I will check out each time, about time wayne went on another holiday/trip :)

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