EU sanctions Iran over assassination plots

The EU hit Iran's intelligence services with sanctions Tuesday after accusing Tehran of being behind plots to assassinate regime opponents on Dutch, Danish and French soil.

The move by the 28-nation bloc was announced as the Dutch government said it believed Iran was behind the murders of two dissidents in 2015 and 2017.

"Very encouraging that (the) EU has just agreed on new targeted sanctions against Iran in response to hostile activities and plots being planned and perpetrated in Europe, including Denmark," Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen said.

The "EU stands united -- such actions are unacceptable and must have consequences," he tweeted.

Sanctions include the freezing of funds and other financial assets of the Iranian intelligence ministry and individuals, officials said.

But Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif pointed the finger at European nations he said were harbouring terrorists.

"Accusing Iran does not release Europe from its responsibility for hosting terrorists," he said in a tweet.

https://www.france24.com/en/20190109...ance-bomb-plot

When sanctions, serious actual sanctions not just words, are made against Israel for similar actions, I will congratulate the UN.

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When sanctions, serious actual sanctions not just words, are made against Israel for similar actions, I will congratulate the UN.

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Sorry, when did Israel last get caught plotting assassinations in Europe again? I must have missed that.

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after accusing Tehran of being behind plots to assassinate

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as the Dutch government said it believed Iran was behind the

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plots being planned and perpetrated in Europe

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No trial facts/details, no evidence facts/details, no conviction facts/details.

This western "rules and international law" based system is somewhat flexible . In investigation, legal procedure and execution. :rolleyes:

^ indeed.

israel barks, the EU, like the US, acts.

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Quite severe measures, something like against Saudis...

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No trial facts/details, no evidence facts/details, no conviction facts/details.

This western "rules and international law" based system is somewhat flexible . In investigation, legal procedure and execution. :rolleyes:

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The trials are ongoing.

And counter-intelligence services normally don't release details of how they gather evidence on foreign foes - you fuckwit.

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^ indeed.

israel barks, the EU, like the US, acts.

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As bad as the blue suede shoes are, this thread has nothing to do with them.

Here's, let's give you a hand in case you lost your glasses.

I R A N.

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The trials are ongoing.

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So it's the "highly likely" scenario again.

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EU sanctions Iran over assassination plots

The EU hit Iran's

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No it's about illegal sanctions by the EU. Currently unsubstantiated by any legal court.

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A legal procedure is required to determine guilt, where evidence is produced and questioned. Leading to a jury agreeing or not with the allegation. If found guilty penalties are decided.

Until then, your OP is hearsay and any sanctions are illegal.

Not that the fabled western democracies pay much heed to any rules based procedures/international and domestic laws, as we well know.

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Sorry, when did Israel last get caught plotting assassinations in Europe again? I must have missed that.

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Why do assasinations have to be in Europe, specifically, to be condemned? The list is long, too long for me to go through and pick out just the European assissinations, but they are there aplenty.
I was recalling a fairly recent assissination in Iran, (and well remember a murder in Auckland, NZ, where the Israeli perps were caught...google Rainbow Warrior. Not an assissination, but a murder.) and so googled for specifics. The list surprised even me. It's quite long.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...assassinations

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Why do assasinations have to be in Europe, specifically, to be condemned? The list is long, too long for me to go through and pick out just the European assissinations, but they are there aplenty.
I was recalling a fairly recent assissination in Iran, (and well remember a murder in Auckland, NZ, where the Israeli perps were caught...google Rainbow Warrior. Not an assissination, but a murder.) and so googled for specifics. The list surprised even me. It's quite long.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...assassinations

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Rainbow Warrior was the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys unhappy at their nuclear tests being sabotaged.

The Kiwis actually jailed a Mossad agent for using a fake passport. They put him on the telly as well to fuck his cover. Which was nice.

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So it's the "highly likely" scenario again.

No it's about illegal sanctions by the EU. Currently unsubstantiated by any legal court.

A legal procedure is required to determine guilt, where evidence is produced and questioned. Leading to a jury agreeing or not with the allegation. If found guilty penalties are decided.

Until then, your OP is hearsay and any sanctions are illegal.

Not that the fabled western democracies pay much heed to any rules based procedures/international and domestic laws, as we well know.

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What a load of stupid waffle.

Sanctions don't need legal approval. It is up to the Iranians if they wants to have assets in the EU, and if they choose to do so then they must pay the price when they do stupid shit like this.

You do seem to think that the West must play by Queensberry rules while your beloved Chinkies/Persians/Russians/Whatever should be able to do what the fuck they like.

You stupid, snivelling sycophant.

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As bad as the blue suede shoes are, this thread has nothing to do with them.

Here's, let's give you a hand in case you lost your glasses.

I R A N.

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Has everything to do with israel. The fact that you are oblivious to this is hardly surprising.

2 unsubstantiated claims from 4 and 2 years ago and suddenly there is a pressing need for sanctions? No no Murkin Mainstream Media boy (I note you don't like CNNHarry) this is israel chucking its weight around. Bibi the Butcher was touring Europe just before Xmas to ""change the hostile and hypocritical approach of the European Union" toward peace in the Mideast."

He also said that iran were planning terrorist attacks in Europe because he is a fucking madman. All to do with European companies not toeing the murikan line on sanctions and telling them to fuck off.


Here's a short concise USA drivel article about it. Even a illiterate fool like you will be able to plough through that in a couple of hours.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/ar...ttacks-by-iran

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Has everything to do with israel. The fact that you are oblivious to this is hardly surprising.

2 unsubstantiated claims from 4 and 2 years ago and suddenly there is a pressing need for sanctions? No no Murkin Mainstream Media boy (I note you don't like CNNHarry) this is israel chucking its weight around.

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Oh dear, whackjob boy is at it again.

https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=25743&stc=1

it's all you've got heh? Can't read, can't think, can't digest anything. Blimey you are as thick as pigshit

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I'm not sure on the last time they got caught, but you can check the extensive list which spans more than half a century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...inations#1950s

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...inations#1950s

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Seems the last one was 1992 when they finished up payback for Munich.

Otherwise it seems to be

Gaza
Gaza
Gaza
Syria
Gaza
Gaza
Gaza
Syria
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You would think Gaza and Syria would put sanctions on them as well.

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They don't get caught any more. They have complete impunity to murder and kill anyone all over the world.

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They don't get caught any more. They have complete impunity to murder and kill anyone all over the world.

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Maybe even you if we're really lucky.

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Maybe even you if we're really lucky.

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Maybe - they wouldn't bother with an idiot like you though. CNN drone spouting israel hasbara bullshit - you're already in their control.

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Rainbow Warrior was the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys unhappy at their nuclear tests being sabotaged.

The Kiwis actually jailed a Mossad agent for using a fake passport. They put him on the telly as well to fuck his cover. Which was nice.

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Oh yeah, I stand corrected....got mixed up with the Mossad incident. There were two Mossad agents. The one they caught used the birth details of a dead spastic kid to get a passport.

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You would think Gaza ..... would put sanctions on them as well.

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Except Israel keeps blocking Palestine from becoming a full member of the UN, so can't.

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Yep, that 70 year old chip on their collective shoulder keeps the US and others kowtowing to whatever outrageous stunt they pull.

Lulu doesn't normally comment on the news, but this little exchange about Israel will rile him up. He loves Israel :)

War or combat? Not always the same...

Ahead of peace meeting in Warsaw, Netanyahu threatens war with Iran

Bibi tweets that countries are ‘sitting down together with Israel in order to advance the common interest of war with Iran.’

WARSAW — A barrage of Twitter-fire quickly torched any notion of a Middle East peace conference — along with any illusions the meeting in Warsaw was not designed to focus on Iran.

As officials from dozens of nations gathered for the U.S.-sponsored event in the Polish capital Wednesday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu posted a tweet threatening war with Iran.

Proclaiming the historic importance of the event, the Israeli prime minister's official account tweeted: "This is an open meeting with representatives of leading Arab countries, that are sitting down together with Israel in order to advance the common interest of war with Iran."

Oops.

The tweet was quickly deleted and replaced with a new one that used slightly softer language about "the common interest of combating Iran."

https://www.politico.eu/article/ahea...war-with-iran/

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Netanyahoo Asks Arabs To "Advance The Common Interest Of War With Iran"

"The U.S. had called for a high level anti-Iran meeting in Poland. The purpose of the meeting was to bring with its allies and poodles into line with the U.S. agenda on Iran, to press them at least into issuing harsher sanctions. But the European rejected that. The State Department then changed the agenda:

“The idea was to have a conference, a ministerial, and basically break our diplomatic isolation on Iran,” said a person familiar with the planning of the event. “It started out as an Iran conference in disguise but has probably actually been forced to take on more actual broader Middle East content now." The person added: “They changed some of the focus and were forced to pony up with content on Syria and Yemen particularly."

The meeting took place today but the European powers did not fall for the trick. They want keep the nuclear agreement with Iran:

Even Poland on Tuesday said it disagreed with the U.S. approach to Iran. Foreign Minister Jacek Czaputowicz told reporters the nuclear pact was valuable and expressed hope the conference could help participants find common ground. While the U.S. delegation includes Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and senior White House adviser Jared Kushner, other major players have either refused to attend or are sending low-level delegations. The EU’s foreign-policy chief, Federica Mogherini, said she had other commitments.

Germany and France only sent lower level staff. The British foreign minister will only attend a side session on Yemen.
The State Department went to some length to obfuscate the real purpose of the conference. Its press statement today says:

The agenda is wide-ranging, and will include a discussion of the Administration’s efforts to promote a comprehensive and lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians, as well as a conversation on how to address ongoing regional humanitarian crises. The Secretary will provide an update on the situation in Syria and discuss other U.S. priorities in the region, including concerns regarding Iran’s destructive activities. Smaller breakout sessions will provide ministers the opportunity to focus on specific areas of concern such as missile development and proliferation, cyber security and emerging threats, and terrorism and illicit finance.

That State Department effort to somewhat hide the real agenda was sabotaged when the Prime Minister of Israel arrived and made it clear what the meeting is all about:

I am going to a meeting with 60 foreign ministers and envoys of countries from around the world against Iran. What is important about this meeting – and this meeting is not in secret, because there are many of those – is that this is an open meeting with representatives of leading Arab countries, that are sitting down together with Israel in order to advance the common interest of war with Iran."

https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/...ithirans-1.jpg



The statement has now been changed into "combating Iran". But that is not what Netanyahoo said in Warsaw and there is video to prove it. There were also witnesses:

Aron Heller @aronhellerap 18:44 utc - 13 Feb 2019 Did @netanyahu really say “war” with Iran? I was there and the word was ”milchama” = war.

Why is Netanyahoo doing this?

No other country, except maybe the U.S., has any interest in waging war on Iran. Certainly not the Arab countries near the Persian Gulf. In case of a war they are all extremely vulnerable to Iranian retaliation. Their oil and gas installations would be in serious danger. The desalination plants which provide their drinking water are all within easy reach of Iranian missiles.

By claiming that the conference is about waging war on Iran Netanyahoo is not only embarrassing the State Department and Secretary Mike Pompeo. He also makes it extremely difficult for other attendees to justify their presence. The Arabs will be especially furious that they are shown in such an open alliance with Israel and its hostility against Iran. Scheming with Israel in the dark is fine. But being publicly associated with a war mongering Israel is difficult to sell to their people. It would be unsurprising to see some of them leave.

The whole conference is an own goal for the Trump administration. Instead of showing unity with its allies it now only demonstrates the depth or their disagreement. Netanyahoo's statement may help him to win some votes in the upcoming election in Israel. But the hoped for alliance with the Gulf Arabs is now as far off as it has ever been."

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/0...with-iran.html

Thing is most people don't like Benny. And this is all wind and piss to try and distract from his bribery charges. So I wouldn't worry your little head about it.

I don't suppose winning an election has anything to do with his brutal assertions.

It's quite a paradox that in the same time - when three states meet how to manage the long awaited peace in Syria - another state (who contributed to that war) is organizing a meeting for a new war against one of the peacemakers.

Moreover, twisting arms to many others to get a support...

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Your too kind, they threaten retaliations if one doesn't kneel before goldilocks.