Why do they not look right when exiting a junction?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZpS1...ature=youtu.be
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Why do they not look right when exiting a junction?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZpS1...ature=youtu.be
Why can't Thais just be like us...?
:rolleyes:
My lovely partner showed me this yesterday, horrific, and the poor kid was only 15 years old
If you look you will see there’s a solid white line on that bend that entitles then to right of way
besides they need to keep their eyes out for some cont on his 3 wheeler driving the wrong way up that hard shoulder
Who is to blame?
The strokers who didn’t put a stop sign and road markings on the minor road
just got my Missus to translate, seems they are more concerned why the songteaw didn’t stop and they also mentioned that junction being an accident blackspot.
fuckn apes
agree with you there, a.o.
thais should drive like westerners (in general) drive and then thailand wouldn't have some of the most dangerous roads (stats) in the world.
that said: my little part of bkk is safe as the traffic never moves too fast and most of the drivers drive well.
almost never see an accident (once per year a minor accident).
nothing to do with westerners just look. Simple soi leading to a main road. Junction, car coming from your right, you want to turn left but the car is at 35 kilometers per hour and is 30 meters away no way to merge, heavy breaks applied by the car. Car looks in the rear view mirror and not a car one behind him...... :) Simply no knowledge of how to drive and less spacial awareness. A head bob solves it all though.
A terrible tragedy I concur...but entirely superfluous (and disrespectful) to reclassify them as primates.
They just don't have any respect for other road users. ME FIRST!!!
Songkran is coming soon and El Presidente has a firm plan in place this year to reduce the cull. He's passed the responsibility to deputy El Presidente :rolleyes:.
hl: listen, generally i agree with you that expats shouldn't be farang supremacists (looking down on thais because they aren't like "us").
though, regarding driving, they should be like "us", japanese, singaporean, etc.
btw: on td, one should be able to disagree without hurling insults.
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There is a major fact that needs to be considered here. Thais are incapable of driving safely. Any teaching they received on the subject is minimal and many do not even have a license to drive a car or motorbike, but they do. Police hardly ever enforce the rules of the road, so what you are left with is a free for all out on the highways and if you do not drive defensively, you are dead meat.
ouch.! that was fookin nasty. the bikey looks in total shock but notice he didn't go near the carnage.. must have been nasty :puke:
That solid white line you refer to is the demarcation line between the actual road and the hard shoulder. I believe it is illegal to cross over that line to either park or drive. The white line is there instead of kerbs being as it's cheaper and easier to construct a road in rural areas that way.
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When should you use the hard shoulder?
The hard shoulder: A narrow emergency lane along the left of a motorway, separated by a solid white line. Most deaths on the hard shoulder happen within 30 minutes of the driver pulling over. Using this part of the motorway should be an absolute last resort, for a breakdown or emergency
I'm not sure it would be a re-classification. Did they ever evolve in the first place ?
You're right. The authorities have to take the blame because they designed the road, and all warning signs must be in place.
But I can't help thinking that the mentality behind peoples' failure to look is some kind of village mentality which I haven't quite worked out yet.
For instance, I used to live in Taiwan. This country industrialised rapidly and late. When my girlfriend's parents were married in 1970, they hired one of the very few cars in central Taiwan to take them to the wedding.
Even today, if you go to central Taiwan you see older people just walking out onto the road without looking. They don't expect cars to be coming along so quickly. People just drive around them.
No he's not. There is no compulsory rule that warning signs must be in place. The line markings on the road are. At the junction, in the vid, a broad white stop line can be seen about 5-8m in from main road. That is clear enough to tell people to stop.
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What is the limit of a line?
A line constituting a limit or point of furthest (permitted) extent; a cordon; a boundary; specifically a solid white line across a road indicating the point where traffic should stop.
...so, bureaucratic incompetence coupled with the usual heedless state of many locals produced...another accident...*yawn*...just a warm-up for next month's lollapalooza carnage...do we have a death poll yet?...
Interesting to note that chaotic driving exists in both Cambodia and Indonesia. At first it really did look dangerous. The difference is simple awareness.
In both countries, it is common practice to use the wrong side of the road, or to cut corners. The difference is road users fully expect this contrary form of road use and make allowances for it.
This rarely happens in Thailand.
Organised chaos v disorganized mayhem.
Yeah, that's not actually a fact at all (much less a 'major' one).Quote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppers
Anyways I was just thinking about it and I can't even recollect the last accident I saw here. In the whole time I have been here I've seen very, very few - which is always surprising to me.
Thai driving habits, especially motorbikes, stink.
Motorbikes rarely look right when making a left turn.
The other extremely dangerous thing they do is at crossroads on major highways, where there are designated right turn lanes. Motorbikes slowly wobble out into the fast lane to get ahead of cars waiting on a right turn. They don't even glance back to see a vehicle is approaching.
See that a lot on my daily commutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by misskit
Another thing in the same situation are cars (usually, also motorbikes too) that either try to skip the cue or apparently have the worlds worst turning radius and start their turns from way out in the right-hand lane - effectively blocking the entire lane (even on major roads).
^ Yep. Was in the car this weekend with a good friend of mine who straddles two lanes when making a right turn. When I point it out, he says he is exercising his right to be Thai. Then he tells me it is worse for me to do the same thing because I am falang and I know better. :)
Also, I saw a bad accident between Chiang Rai and Chiang San. People on the road everywhere. Had to look away.
^Yep. Some imbecile did that on the Sukumvit this morning. Apparently, his pickup must have the turning circle of an oil-tanker.
Yup, Thais drive bad and have no care for safety...but, it is organized chaos which Thais are used to driving in.
The same goes for China.. the traffic is ridiculous.. with the amount of traffic and cars just swerving from lane to lane not using signals.... it is chaotic, but I haven't seen an accident yet. Taxis are the worst drivers and I feel like anyday I'll be in an accident, but it hasn't happened yet..touch wood.
Same goes for me. I see plenty of white accident marks on the road but I've only ever witnessed one accident in 12 years. And that was funny. At the local petrol station one motorcycle was exiting and another one entering. Neither rider could decide on which side to pass on and they both collided head on. :)
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Originally Posted by misskit
I guess you can't argue with logic like that!
I mostly see it on the CM - Somphot Rd. and especially now that they've changed some of the u-turns near Global etc. to one-way only.
Which reminds me... Every now and then I'll also see a car still attempting to turn at one of those because they're too lazy/useless to go 500m down the road to the next/proper one.
As I say surprised I seen so few in my time.Quote:
Originally Posted by misskit
Defo no complaint though, don't wanna be seeing that shit.
It would seem the victim also didn't realize Thais don't look right either and he was overtaking on the inside while riding on the shoulder, but hey...
Maybe there is some unknown (to us) code that says if one makes eye contact one has to give way but if not...
Sorry I forgot to mention that the bus/songthaew that run over the poor kid failed to stop and the driver was arrested later and, along with the other motorcyclist, charged with negligent driving.
I honestly couldn't say how many accidents\scenes i have witnessed there have been so many, the worse one was 10 or so years back near to Suvarnabhumi airport, two pick up trucks were involved both were full of workers, I don't know how many bodies were on the road, but it was a lot!
For years i thought Thai's had a genetic problem that prevented them turning their necks until I realised it was inherited laziness!
Lots of anecdotes , however we don't hear from the bereaved/maimed.
in 5 decades behind the wheel Thailand Iran and Sri Lanka seem the worst as a personal view.
Statistics vary but I believe Thailand is always near the top for fatalities and some who die later are not even counted.Libya road fatalities get a boost from RPGs etc
Don't shoot the massager, If anything it was worse 20 years ago.
https://www.thephuketnews.com/thaila...BJm6qa23uI5.97
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TNews reported on the story of the M3 (Year 10) high school student who was killed riding his motorcycle on the way to take exams in Buriram on Monday morning.
Plai Nuanprakhon, 63, the 6 wheel song thaew driver that crushed the boy to death has told police that he did not flee the accident.
He said he saw the accident but didn't believe it involved him. He had no idea that he had run over the boy and just drove on.
While Sutthichai Somjit, 23, who was riding the motorcycle that came out of the side soi suddenly, also denied negligence. He blamed the deceased student who got tangled in his handlebars and hit the tarmac. It was not his fault that he was crushed under the wheels of the song thaew, he has claimed.
The police have charged the motorcyclist with negligence all the same.
But they are still investigating the song thaew driver and no charges of negligence or fleeing the scene of an accident have yet been made.
CCTV will form an important part of the evidence. It clearly caught what happened and has been viewed across social media.
TNews reported that the boy's mother and father cradled his lifeless body on the tarmac following the accident.
Bumpy ole rd Karma
Fortunately the locals really do believe they get another spin of the wheel otherwise they might be motivated to act now
One has to take in account that there are practically no driving schools in this country.