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Well, it looks as if they are finally getting scheduled. According to TV reports here, the lone Filipina, who in my opinion is the least guilty of any of them, has been notified that her execution is scheduled for Tuesday. So, that's the three-day warning notice - at least for her.
Mods - I started a new thread to focus only on the executions. Of course, if you disagree, feel free to merge it with one of the other existing lengthy threads.
Bali Nine: Who are the other prisoners on death row with Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran?
Australians Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran are not the only death row prisoners in Indonesia awaiting execution.
The pair are among a group of 11 prisoners who have recently been approved for execution by the Indonesian government.
The list also includes prisoners from France, Ghana, Brazil, Nigeria, the Philippines and Indonesia.
Rodrigo Gularte - Brazil
The 43-year-old Brazilian national was convicted of trying to smuggle 19 kilograms of heroin into Jakarta in 2004.
He was sentenced to death in 2005.
Aid organisation Reprieve said Gularte was diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder with psychotic features.
The organisation also claimed international law prohibits the execution of individuals with mental or intellectual disabilities.
Brazil made the decision to recall its ambassador to Indonesia in January following the execution of another of its citizens.
President Dilma Rousseff made the country's position clear to Indonesia, saying she was "distressed and outraged" by the execution in January.
Martin Anderson (alias Belo) - Ghana
Anderson was arrested in Kelapa Gading in November 2003 for possessing 50 grams of heroin.
In 2004 he was sentenced to death in a Jakarta court.
Mary Jane Fiesta Veloso - Philippines
The only woman on the list of those to be executed, 30-year-old Veloso was arrested at Adisucipto International Airport in April 2010 after being found with 2.6 kilograms of heroin.
She was sentenced to death by the Sleman District Court in October 2010 for attempting to smuggle the heroin into Indonesia from Malaysia.
Raheem Agbaje Salami - Nigeria
Salami was sentenced to life in prison by the Surabaya District Court in April 1999 after being convicted of smuggling 5.3 kilograms of heroin through Juanda airport in September 1998.
In May 2006, his life sentence was upgraded to the death penalty by the Supreme Court and he was not allowed to appeal to a higher court, according to Amnesty International.
Serge Areski Atlaoui - France
The 51-year old was arrested in November 2005 and charged with possessing 138.6 kilograms of methamphetamine, 290 kilograms of ketamine and 316 drums of precursor at a drug-making factory in Tangerang.
He was originally sentenced to life in prison by the Tangerang District Court in November 2006, but it was upgraded to the death penalty in May 2007 by the Supreme Court.
Atlaoui, from Metz, west of Paris, has always maintained his innocence, saying he was only paid to maintain machines in the factory where the drugs were found.
"He was abused. We have always said that he was welding machines in a factory producing acrylic," his lawyer, Richard Sedillot, told French newspaper La Croix.
Mr Sedillot said when Atlaoui was working in Holland he was approached by a "recruiter" to work with him in Indonesia.
Zainal Abidin - Indonesia
Abidin was originally sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment by the Palembang District Court in September 2001 after being convicted of smuggling 58.7 kilograms of marijuana.
His sentence was upgraded to the death penalty by the Palembang High Court in December 2001.
Syofial (alias Iyen bin Azwar), Sargawi (alias Ali bin Sanusi) and Harun bin Ajis - Indonesia
The three Indonesian men were sentenced to death by the Bangko District Court in November 2001 for the murder and rape of seven members of an indigenous community in Jambi in 2000.
Bali Nine: Who are the other prisoners on death row with Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
The two Australians have also been told.
That's pretty screwed up.
A Brazilian with bipolar and schizophrenia, a Frog who claims he thought he was welding machines in a factory producing acrylic, and someone caught with 58.7 kilograms of marijuana.
Skipping Indo for a while.
Why ? Do you regularly smuggle large quantities of drugs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Baas Babelaas
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No one has any reason to skip any country if not involved in smuggling drugs.
Quite simple really.
On entering Malaysia today there was a nice loud warning on the plane advising against smuggling drugs.
Everyone knows the deal huh.
France warns Indonesia of consequences if Frenchman executed over drug offences
Apr 25, 2015 3:23 PM
BAKU, Azerbaijan (AFP) - French President Francois Hollande warned on Saturday that Indonesia faces diplomatic consequences if it pushes ahead with the planned execution of Frenchman Serge Atlaoui over drug trafficking offences.
“If he is executed, there will be consequences with France and Europe because we cannot accept this type of execution,” he told reporters during a visit to Baku in Azerbaijan, adding that the repercussions would essentially be of a “diplomatic” nature.
“At the very least, we will recall our ambassador” from Jakarta, the president said, adding that he would also not visit Indonesia “for some time”.
In addition, discussions over possible cooperation that had been mooted between Hollande and his Indonesian counterpart Joko Widodo during the November G20 summit could also be suspended.
France warns Indonesia of consequences if Frenchman executed over drug offences - More Asia Stories News & Top Stories - The Straits Times
The thing is Indo will never bow down to diplomatic pressure. All it ever does is piss them off and make things worse.
Australians on here can remember back in the 80's when then Prime Minister Paul keating was punching it out with Malaysia's Mahaterir ? Spelling.
He just dug in deeper, they hated each other. :confused:
Well you can't exactly get off the plane if that's the first time you've been made aware of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
Should hand out leaflets at checkin to give mofos a chance :)
However, Indonesia insists that no one would give a monkeys as they prefer cheddar anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neverna
Because nobody ever gets stitched by the Indo aurthorities, no corruption here, there, nor anywhere, we are safe in their hands!Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
If I recall, that right cvnt Keating continued to stick his [and Aussie] nose where it didn't belong....Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
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How it usually works is that they wait for some dumb retard to break the law and then they usually give them the chance to buy their way out.
Quite decent of them I say.
Normal innocent tourists have nothing at all to fear.
Drug smuggling scum must beware that they could quite possibly die if caught.
Nothing new here huh.
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Yep, same as what's happening now, no difference is there.
Come off it Tel I know you don't really think that this practice is ok. You don't have to break any local laws to find yourself victim of this kind of stitch up either, piss off the wrong person and simple spite and malice could set off a chain of events that puts an innocent person on the end of a rope, dopey local plod don't give a monkies for the truth neither they just want a body to pin it on.Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
Is that a typo? It's orders of magnitude less than the others and it says he was only arrested for possession, not smuggling or dealing or anything. Seems like he got well shafted.Quote:
Originally Posted by misskit
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I've been to Bali 6 million times mate and so have my friends, never had 1 minutes worth of problem simply because I don't break their Laws.
I did drive through a red light once and was busted by the filth.
Smashed a room up once, payed off the manager no probs. :)
They let me pay them off, saved me going through the system.
My fault, I was happy to pay.
So back to the start again , plenty of people fuking up over there so no need for the pigs to extort innocent people.
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50 grams is a lot of smack mate.
Over a ounce and a half. :confused:
The frenchman has just been given a reprieve.
Terry, you are quite wrong in your assumption that innocents have nothing to fear.Quote:
(Reuters) - Indonesia has granted a temporary reprieve to a French death row inmate due to be executed soon with nine other drug convicts, a French embassy official said on Saturday.
Serge Atlaoui was initially among a group of 10 inmates, which include nationals from Australia, Brazil, France, Ghana, Nigeria, and the Philippines, due to be executed soon by firing squad on the prison island of Nusakambangan.
An official at the French embassy in Jakarta told Reuters it had been notified by the Attorney General's Office that Atlaoui would not be in the next round of executions. It was not clear why his death sentence was postponed.
"We remain extremely cautious. Everything can change from one day to the next," said Richard Sedillot, Atlaoui's lawyer.
"I am torn between an extreme sadness to learn that other condemned could be executed and the relief to learn that the man I was defending for eight years could at this stage be spared."
The news came with marches in support of Atlaoui slated to take place in Paris and in Metz, eastern France, his home town.
France has told Indonesia the executions could damage relations, while Australia has pleaded repeatedly for clemency for Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, two Australians arrested as ringleaders of the so-called Bali Nine drug-smuggling group.
Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said on Saturday that Indonesia had notified her government the execution of the two Australian men would be "scheduled imminently".
(Reporting by Randy Fabi in Jakarta, Dominique Vidalon and Marine Pennnetier in Paris, and Christopher McCall in Sydney; Editing by Mark Heinrich)
You, as an experienced Asian hand should know that the judicial process in third world Asian countries is not for the faint hearted and many innocent people languish in gaols due to a lack of influence, a lack of money and lawyers and judges that are as corruptible and immoral as the scum police that seem commonplace in these countries.
Although the Australians can have no complaints about their convictions,the evidence used to convict the Filipino girl is flimsy to put it mildly.
Terry is a well travelled fart, and knows the do's and don'ts, stay away from shit and it don't come find you.
Sure - sensible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower
Piss off, Keating was great.Quote:
Originally Posted by thaimemeIf I recall, that right cvnt Keating continued to stick his [and Aussie] nose where it didn't belong....Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
Called the Malaysian PM a recalcitrant, can't remember what for.
In Australian recalcitrant means 'Raghead muzzie faggot'
And as long as you don't meet a woman that accuses you of buggering her son with a magic stone you plucked from thin air in a magic invisible room.... you will continue to have trouble free visits to indo.Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
The fenchmans case does rather remind me of that anglothai couple that were convicted of drug offences simply because they were present in the aprtment block at the time of the raid.
It will be rather interesting what happens to the french chap as France has form for strong arming foreign governments to get its chaps home. I'm thinking of those french government employees that got themselves arrested & convicted committing acts of terrorism in new zealand.
These folks on death row, knew they risks and consequences. They rolled the dice.
People are dying all over the world from cancer to car crashes to earthquakes.
Why give a sh*t about those who tried to break the law for ca$h and got caught?
I love being in Australian company, Us Poms admire them on their tough stance on Immigration.
Plucky buggers.
Tough stance prime facie.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
That last time I was in Sydney, the Bangladeshi taxi driver that had been there two weeks asked me to type my destination into the GPS.
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Originally Posted by taxexile
Exactly, as a parallel look deeper into the conviction of one of the filipinos executed in China and you will find one was stitched-up too. Unfortunately there are those too narrow minded to look further than somebody being convicted.
I couldn't remember either, so just looked it up. Here it is for the elucidation of all :Quote:
Originally Posted by Koojo
First, to set the stage, come back to Seattle in November, 1993. Snow is gusting towards the city, but Australia's Prime Minister, Paul Keating, is about to leave in the sunniest of moods. The first APEC summit has just been held and Indonesia's President Suharto has agreed to hold a second summit the next year.
Keating has just completed the final item on his Seattle itinerary — a visit to the Boeing factory. The Australian hacks gather for a doorstop. For them, 'Keating triumphs in Seattle' was the story from the previous day. Now they want to talk about Dr Mahathir, the one Asia Pacific leader who declined to attend. Take it away, Prime Minister:Keating: 'Please don't ask me any more questions about Dr Mahathir. I couldn't care less, frankly, whether he comes or not.'By Keating standards it was the gentlest of swipes. But Dr Mahathir had just been hugely outplayed — even outclassed — by the success of the summit he'd boycotted.
Question: Will you see him next year, Prime Minister?
Keating: 'Yes. I'll see him in his own right. Malaysia is a country which Australia has interests with, and which is a neighbour, and I'll see him on those terms. But APEC is bigger than all of us; Australia, the US and Malaysia and Dr Mahathir and any other recalcitrants. I mean, APEC is a very big development in world affairs and, I think, ushers in a period of important cooperation.'
Mahathir demanded an apology from Keating, and threatened to reduce diplomatic ties and trade drastically with Australia, which became an enormous concern to Australian exporters. Some Malaysian officials talked of launching a "Buy Australian Last" campaign; Keating subsequently apologised to Mahathir over the remark. Keating dismantled the century-old protectionism that had been present in Australia, fueling a productivity drive in the free market and increasing Australian living standards.
By Keating standards it was the gentlest of swipes. But Dr Mahathir had just been hugely outplayed — even outclassed — by the success of the summit he'd boycotted.
Mahathir demanded an apology from Keating, and threatened to reduce diplomatic ties and trade drastically with Australia, which became an enormous concern to Australian exporters. Some Malaysian officials talked of launching a "Buy Australian Last" campaign; Keating subsequently apologised to Mahathir over the remark.
It's always best not to say something that you'll have to apologize for at a later date.
Wouldn't you agree ?
So who really got outclassed ?
Note: If you're caught smuggling 10 kg of heroin into Australia you'd probably be sentenced to 20 years (possibly along with a fine that you wouldn't pay).
Possibly the two Aussies never imagined getting busted prior to the flight. Oh well, live and learn.
Indonesia like some other countries will sentence you to death simply for possession of drugs. That is their code of law.
You've got to understand that risk prior to deciding to take the chance to make more money then flipping burgas at Happy Jacks.
Real world. Your life. What choices do YOU make ?
Well called. The reports this morning indicate he has a reprieve for the time being.Quote:
Originally Posted by hazz
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Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
Nope,
That's a pile of shit right there mate, If that was true Indonesia and Asia in general would not have enough bullets to Execute the dumb arsed Aussie tards that have been caught smuggling or carrying drugs.
Out of the Bali Nine only these two are being topped as they set the gig up.
Andrew Chan. 26 year old ring leader. No record, no history. Where did he get the set up money? Why was the drug supplier, Miss Cherry never arrested? How did she bring in the entire amount from Bangkok that would then take 5 mules to bring to Australia?
If you believe those two kids set it up on their own you are stupider than I thought.
The worst conviction for murder is pre-meditated.
We now have a country that is going to be guilty of this crime - Indonesia
We are all in glass houses - a drug smuggler next time could be your son or daughter, where is the compassion?
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I'm sorry mate but your quote is seriously fuked.
These two loaded up the mules with the gear, they are getting topped for this crime.
They set the others up for what they are enduring now.
Fair enough to discuss it but don't start taking their crime down.
I'm not for topping them, it's not my call but if they are topped Its not my cry either.
Don't understand Asia do you, kill a person is a lessor crime then an act that attacks society as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman123
Shot a rifle or plant a bomb, with intent, no one dies, which is the lessor crime.
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They sort of like to top smack smugglers because it fucks up so many lives.
A punter who shoots someone kills one but a smack smuggler kills many at the end of the day.
That's why they justify topping them.
Here's a point, not really relevant, but that cow Bishop keeps saying they have been rehabilitated.
If that's the case, Australia with a 76% re offending rate and an average cost of $95,000 per prisoner per year, should be looking at the Indo system.
Must work better.
If it is not really relevant, why make it?
Crosses have been inscribed with Tuesday's date.
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