2 Germans caned and jailed in Singapore for vandalism.

SINGAPORE: Singapore yesterday sentenced two German men to three strokes of a rattan cane and nine months in prison after they were found guilty of vandalising a public train carriage, according to court documents.

The two men were identified as 22-year-old Andreas Von Knorre and 21-year-old Elton Hinz.

They entered a Singapore train depot at night in November and sprayed paint on a train that was parked there, the court records said.

The duo then left Singapore, were later spotted by police in Bangkok, and eventually were arrested in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, and extradited back to Singapore, according to The Straits Times and other media reports.

They have been in jail since November, and their sentence will be backdated until then.

The two men are not the first foreigners to be jailed and caned for vandalism. In 2010, Swiss IT consultant Oliver Fricker was jailed five months - a sentence that was later raised to seven on appeal - and received three strokes of the cane, also for vandalising a public train parked at a depot.

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The duo then left Singapore, were later spotted by police in Bangkok, and eventually were arrested in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia,

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3 countries involved in capturing 2 graffiti artists? I'm amazed.

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They entered a Singapore train depot at night in November and sprayed paint on a train that was parked there

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Train graffiti. Three strokes of a rattan cane and nine months in prison. That'll give them something to remember - maybe a 'tag' on their arses.

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So do they take their panties down, bend them over and cane their arses?..

^ Prisoners are stripped and strapped to a wooden trestle with a medical officer on hand to intervene if necessary.

It seems they got off relatively lightly. The maximum penalty for vandalism is a fine of $2,000 or three years' jail plus three to eight strokes of the cane.

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"This is the darkest episode of my entire life," said Von Knorre while being sentenced. "I want to apologise to the state of Singapore for the stupid act ... I've learned my lesson and will never do it again."

Hinz said: "I promise I will never do it again. I want to apologise to you, and my family for the shame and situation I've put them into."

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Won't do it again in Singapore or won't do it again anywhere?

Is one of them a member of TD?


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Celstraf en stokslagen voor graffiti op trein | metronieuws.nl

Where is Dawg, anyway?...Heh...

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Prisoners are stripped and strapped to a wooden trestle with a medical officer on hand to intervene if necessary.

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Totally naked?...Are they caned on the arse?...

^ I don't know. That was ripped from a news article.


Two Germans to be caned, jailed for Singapore train graffiti | Reuters

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^ Prisoners are stripped and strapped to a wooden trestle with a medical officer on hand to intervene if necessary.

It seems they got off relatively lightly. The maximum penalty for vandalism is a fine of $2,000 or three years' jail plus three to eight strokes of the cane.

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"This is the darkest episode of my entire life," said Von Knorre while being sentenced. "I want to apologise to the state of Singapore for the stupid act ... I've learned my lesson and will never do it again."

Hinz said: "I promise I will never do it again. I want to apologise to you, and my family for the shame and situation I've put them into."

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Won't do it again in Singapore or won't do it again anywhere?

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The American teen that caused all the fuss when he was caned years ago went on to a productive life of drugs and petty crime.

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Prisoners are stripped and strapped to a wooden trestle with a medical officer on hand to intervene if necessary.

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Totally naked?...Are they caned on the arse?...

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You sound strangely excited by the prospect.

^One would be a fool, or "unfeeling," not to be...Heh...Where's withnall?...

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The American teen that caused all the fuss when he was caned years ago went on to a productive life of drugs and petty crime.

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Michael Fay. Spoilt brat who vandalized the wrong car. IIRC, one of the cars he vandalized was the car belonging to a fairly senior member of the Judiciary there.


Anyway, not a trivial punishment.

Caning in Singapore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The wounds take between a week and a month to heal, and the marks are indelible

^Cheers...Yep...On the ass, and stripped totally naked...

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The American teen that caused all the fuss when he was caned years ago went on to a productive life of drugs and petty crime.

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Michael Fay. Spoilt brat who vandalized the wrong car. IIRC, one of the cars he vandalized was the car belonging to a fairly senior member of the Judiciary there.


Anyway, not a trivial punishment.

Caning in Singapore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The wounds take between a week and a month to heal, and the marks are indelible

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Seen an actual Singaporean caning on LiveLeak. Looks pretty horrendous, tbh. A lot of skin and tissue damage.

Som nam na

What a retarded country, they could be Muslim...

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So do they take their panties down, bend them over and cane their arses?..

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Three strokes isn't enough.
Nor is the prison sentence.

Euro-scum.

I like Singapore.

They have the rule of law and enforce it hence when one goes to Singapore it is totally safe to walk around the city at all times of the day and night.

Australia is pathetic, criminals bash people, break into houses and run amock whilst the graffiti artists paint new busses and trains, scratch the windows and get a smack on the wrist. :confused:

Singapore does not fuk around, Australia should do the same.

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SINGAPORE: Singapore yesterday sentenced two German men to three strokes of a rattan cane and nine months in prison

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Yeah and don't faaaking do it again! Little turds think they can just go around the world spraying paint on things.

I told one farang once who was doing graffiti on Rama IV. "You do know of course that painting could be considered work! Do you have a work permit?"

He stopped.

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Australia is pathetic, criminals bash people, break into houses and run amock whilst the graffiti artists paint new busses and trains, scratch the windows and get a smack on the wrist. :confused:

Singapore does not fuk around, Australia should do the same.

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It's disgusting....I've been on a few trains recently and did not see ONE window that had not had graffiti scratched on the windows. It appears that they do it with sandpaper. Little shitheads.:tieme:

^^^^ Terry is spot-on.

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^^^^ Terry is spot-on.

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Singapore is wonderful

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Thailand needs the cane and serious prison time too

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Mate, why have you shat your pants ? You a vandal EH . ?

Singapore is a model city for law and order.

Its a Nanny state like Australia the difference being they mean business when enforcing the Law and Australia is weak as piss.

In Australia these two turds would off been fined a few hundred bucks and been back painting trains 5 minutes later.

Further more regards Singapore, normal people going about their everyday business have nothing to fear from the Authorities.

A perfect example of do no wrong have no fear.

Actually Terry if you do happen somehow to get on the wrong side of the law it isn't much fun.

You would be held without a lawyer until the police are done questioning you.
Then after they have got you to admit to everything you have ever done in your whole life then you may see a lawyer, who then would try to pick up the pieces - usually doing some kind of deal with with prosecution to drop some of the charges before you are obliged to plead guilty to those that remain.

There is no jury. All decisions are made by one judge.

I imagine some innocent people have been caught up like this and ended up pleading guilty to things they haven't done, especially in molest cases on public transport etc where it is one person's word against another. There is just no point to fight a case that will cost you a fortune and you know you will lose.....

Yes, but Tel said it's a very safe city, eh?

I was referring to

"Further more regards Singapore, normal people going about their everyday business have nothing to fear from the Authorities.

A perfect example of do no wrong have no fear."

I realise, I was having a pop at Terry, not you.

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Mate, why have you shat your pants ? You a vandal EH . ?

Singapore is a model city for law and order.

Its a Nanny state like Australia the difference being they mean business when enforcing the Law and Australia is weak as piss.

In Australia these two turds would off been fined a few hundred bucks and been back painting trains 5 minutes later.

Further more regards Singapore, normal people going about their everyday business have nothing to fear from the Authorities.

A perfect example of do no wrong have no fear.

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Your simplistic notion of life generally, and in Asia specifically, really must stop.

Terence, you are a mature man, in physical terms, and it is high time your brain caught up with the rest of you.

Singapore is an autocratic state which brooks no challenge. The law is what someone else in authority wants it to be and is not dictated by an independent judiciary.

Now, if you think the laws that are published are applied to all, equally, in Singapore then you are an idiot.

Essentially, it is a benign dictatorship where personal freedoms are imposed and not expressed individually.

Think of an open prison with weekend licences and you'll get the idea. Certainly, artistic freedom and freedom of the press is highly regulated.

Your little nostrum is childishly simplistic and presupposes only the guilty are charged.. "Do as we tell you and you will be fine" is the order of the day but the definition of wrongdoing and your guilt will have little to do with evidence and a fair trial - that might introduce an element of chance and the little men of Singapore don't leave anything to chance lest they lose total control.

Should introduce the same punishment in Australia,

What a pair of turkeys

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I like Singapore.

They have the rule of law and enforce it hence when one goes to Singapore it is totally safe to walk around the city at all times of the day and night.

Australia is pathetic, criminals bash people, break into houses and run amock whilst the graffiti artists paint new busses and trains, scratch the windows and get a smack on the wrist. :confused:

Singapore does not fuk around, Australia should do the same.

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I agree 100% Terry.

Excuse me, but who invented that bloody word simplistic, this stupid way of looking at things is why Australia is becoming a shit hole.

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but who invented that bloody word simplistic, this stupid way of looking at things is why Australia is becoming a shit hole.

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A simplistic proposition, at best.

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I like Singapore.

They have the rule of law and enforce it hence when one goes to Singapore it is totally safe to walk around the city at all times of the day and night.

Australia is pathetic, criminals bash people, break into houses and run amock whilst the graffiti artists paint new busses and trains, scratch the windows and get a smack on the wrist. :confused:

Singapore does not fuk around, Australia should do the same.

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I agree 100% Terry.

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I like the American approach better than that of Singapore or Australia; if someone breaks into your home you can kill them, legally and with no chance of civil liability in most states. And Yes, we have guns. Rob a home go to hell.

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The duo then left Singapore, were later spotted by police in Bangkok, and eventually were arrested in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia,

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3 countries involved in capturing 2 graffiti artists? I'm amazed.

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Farangs arrogantly flaunting Asian laws, high on the list of people to be apprehended by Asian police forces.

Local killers of Westerners, not so much.

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The duo then left Singapore, were later spotted by police in Bangkok, and eventually were arrested in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia,

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3 countries involved in capturing 2 graffiti artists? I'm amazed.

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Farangs arrogantly flaunting Asian laws, high on the list of people to be apprehended by Asian police forces.

Local killers of Westerners, not so much.

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Priorities.