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No longer content with prime retail locations like high streets, TE is now moving onto busy backstreets.
One opened near me last month and out of 10 mom 'n' pop stores, only 2 remain. One of them being part of a small (Thai-Chinese) chain itself, the other barely clinging on.
And if that don't beat all, TE informs the police of any local store that sells alcohol outside of the designated hours.
Cheap and nasty. I won't be using TE again in a hurry.
Likely near a 7/11. Competition is not so bad. Just had a new Tesco open near me. It already had a 7/11. Mom and pop shops have adapted and not going out of biz here.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Prick
As much as it pains me, I use the Tesco Express in my area. It's the only place I can get fresh milk that doesn't go off or a loaf of bread that doesn't turn green within two days. The locals just don't have the system to keep a good stock of perishable items.
Other goods I can buy from a locally owned supermarket that beats Tesco on variety and price. They hold up pretty well against the big guys who are right next door.
The local fresh market has recently been cleaned up, so fresh produce is available from local vendors again. One can shop now without feeling the urge to puke from the awful smells of poor hygiene.
one just opened on koh chang i think
I saw them all over Koh Samui the last time I was there- two full-sized Tesco outlets and four or five (at least) Express versions- they're taking over.
Mom n Pop need to clean their act up and get some variety of goods in at the right price then everyone will shop with them.
I think the only thing that keeps many moms and pops in business is the off hours alcohol sales.
Same here. Was a mess until Tesco opened. Tesco in this regard was a big plus. The other shops adapted by selling stuff not available in Tesco or the fresh market.Quote:
Originally Posted by misskit
To be honest its the 7/11 that started the obliteration of the small mom/pop stores, something that has happened with little complaint after all everything the CP group do is for the good of the country.
Tesco Express is more of a threat to these 7/11, something that cannot be tolerated.
Saying that tesco are one of the most, if not the most, unpleasantly ruthless companies in the UK and I would imagine they have brought that ruthlessness to thailand. The most important rule when trading with tesco is to always ensure you can survive loosing their custom, once you are dependent upon them they will screw you into bankruptcy.
Before TE opened in Ban Dung there was the usual ranting about the market dissapearing etc and the local shops ,, however I have noticed everytime I use it plenty of locals in it ,, also go in there about 7pm any night and the local ol gals have cottoned on they can buy luxurious amounts of fish etc 15 bht for massive fish reduced to clear the shelves ,, I reckon now they would kick off if it closed :)
This must be hurting Makro. Fewer mom 'n' pops = less wholesale business.
What gets me is that Marko doesn't seem to have any sort of contingency in place.
Sure it must to a degree but the one in Roiet is packed.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Prick
Mom n' Pop can't clean up their act. They will continue doing things the only way they know how and it won't be good enough for people's increasing expectations. They will go the way of the dinosaur. With ASEAN opening up, one of the concerns is that many other chains will be opening up and increasing competition. All local Thai brands like TE and 711 are increasing the number of stores built per year over the next 5 years to get a head start on the outside competitors that are standing in line to open here. Mom n' Pop don't have a chance, and the same goes for hardware stores, electronics shops, kitchen supplies, etc.
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Never been to a kitchen supply store although there are at least 4 big ones on Rama 4 or maybe they would be term upscale kitchen or even bakery equipment stores.Quote:
Originally Posted by BugginOut
Local hardware stores will always be here because no one want s to ride/drive/travel to Home Pro/ Thai Watsadu etc. just to buy a handful of screws or a piece of plastic pipe. Almost no one does DIY here and the local Mr. Fixit guys have to buy their stuff locally.
I don't see why they are worse than any otherQuote:
Originally Posted by hazz
their business model is to move in, sell at cheap prices, get rid of the competition and then put prices higher
normal practice
Here in Patong Makro opened yesterday. It is right opposite a Tesco Rotus and a By 7. Family opened a month or so ago just along the road and all seem Ito be doing ok. The only real issue is the delivery lorries...Nanai Rd is congested enough as it is without the amount of lorries needed to feed a Makro each day.
My SIL. had a mom and pop bought a franchise 7/11 and has the bigest in the aria , after changing her shop house to 7/11 24h.
7/11 did the refit and on her treble shop house and after 10yrs its all hers .
The place is a gold mine she is well minted.
There's a Tesco express bottom of suk soi 24 200 meters away there is a Mega Tesco Lotus.Too much choice cos across the road from that is a Mega Big C,still prefer to shop at Klong Toey market though.
true enough but in the uk they have a few other habitsQuote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
once they know that you are dependent on their orders for your companies survival they will do a few things which are not really that typical of uk businesses
they check your accounts at company house and then tell you how much of your profits you are going to give back to them. when they give money to charity or good causes they will often call round their suppliers and tell them the fraction they will pay. say no and its the last order you get from them.
Customers walk into Tesco's of their own free will. Tesco's must be doing something right.
Good. :chitown:Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Prick
Tesco started out as a market stall by a jewish man Cohen. Hence the CO in Tesco.
Tesco is taking over Thailand and will continue to do so. No different than WalMart in the US who have closed many local businesses. I would rather see more competition than the big companies coming in and wiping out all competition.
I once owned a small pharmacy and had to close because there was a chain pharmacy close by and they undercut my business. Once I was gone, their prices went back up above what I was charging. Because of that, I am not a big fan of that tactic, but do understand it is how big business is done.
The small mom and pop business will continue to spring up in the rural areas where they close due to lack of keeping stock or twenty other individuals build the same kind of shop right next to them. Moral, don't own a mom and pop shop in Thailand.
T E S Cohen, no less.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
Dame Shirley Porter ('c' word permitted) is related to him!
This tactic is called "predatory pricing". In the UK, I understood it was illegal under Monopolies and Mergers legislation.Quote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppers
I have just been to a local Tesco to by milk and a couple of other things
My local store had nothing I wanted, so I was forced to go the extra kilometre
Good for Tesco Express. It's about time these 'mom n pop' shops were put under pressure. They're usually filthy and sell outdated goods. Whereas you get the opposite with the likes of Tesco. Plus if you have a problem you can return the item to the store. Nah 'mom n pop' shops can disappear for all I care. It's called progress. Something rural Thais don't seem to want, unless it suits them.
I will happily drive past 20 mom and pops shops regardless of whether they have what I want to get to a 7 or a Lotus Extra.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
It's funny. How many times?Quote:
Originally Posted by superman
Walk into the shop and look through all the disorganized goods to find the item you need. Pick it up and can't the price under the thick layer of dust. Walk to the back of the store calling the shopkeeper. Find the shopkeeper sleeping on a mat. Wake up the shopkeeper. Shopkeeper wipes the dust off the item and can't find a price. Wait for them to decide a price while a mouse runs across your foot. Pay for the item and go back home, clean the item better and find it is out of date.
but delicious
I read that the UK is lamenting the loss of the 'high street' community in most towns. This is the knock on effect of the American 'supermarket' model that kicked into touch much of England's reputation as 'a land of shopkeepers' - a world I grew up in during the '60s.
The same is beginning over here. I opened my school in a three story city centre department store five years ago. It served the inner city community with shopping through a ground floor Tops Supermarket. A couple of fast food outlets and an Oishi took care of the dinning aspect whilst a couple of coffee shops and bookstores took care of 'killing time/browsing for a few hours.
However, after Big C, Lotus, and Carefour opened up all at the same time along the main artery but some way out of the city the department store's custom base crumbled. Within a year Tops had move out to open up in a new Central Mall which opened up near the big hypermarkets and eventually, as the only business left, I was forced to relocate!
It would be nice to think that lessons can be learned from the UK's high street woes and that Thailand could strike a happy balance but that would require forthought and a sense of more than taking advantage of making a short term fortune...
No one can compete with Tesco's buying power. Many Mom and Pops buy their inventory from Makro and Tesco for resale. The only thing they have going for them is convenience and the laziest of Thai people not wanting to drive or walk more than 5 meters to get what they need.
I get all my booze at the mom store, driving past a tesco, big c and 7/11 to get to her.
just better service, I park out front, he comes out and confirms my regular purchase before her delightfully cute daughter puts in in the truck.
Was just up in Phitsanulok, they have a Tesco Extra now, it's fucking massive, caverous in fact. Biggest in LOS apparently, full of useless little franchise shops that cannot possibly earn a living for their owners.
and that is the whole point of "convenience" stores!Quote:
Originally Posted by liveinlos
Blimey ! What's this trend going to do to Somtamslap's lifestyle, not to mention his posts ? I can't see him sitting reading and drinking in a Tesco's in a few years...
I'm on Chang now and tis true there's a new one here. Very convenient I must say and its doing a roaring business.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunsetter
Small shops can not compete, way of the world Innit.
What Wally-Mart did in the US, Tesco has done in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocksteady
Next stop China. But for Tesco that is. Not Wally.
Tescos opened a few weeks ago here in Samnakthong, a small rubber village just north of Ban Phe.
They are minting it, even at 4am we queue at the tills.
Fresh refridgerated meat, fresh milk, cigarettes that are not Cambodian copies, fresh bread that isn't full of sugar.
Mama and papa need to shape up or close down.
I agree that out of hours booze sales is all they live on now... but
Viva La Tescos
What brand is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by the dogcatcher
^ no brand, from your local baker