My fishpond problem

Ok, we have a little decorative concrete pond/fountain in the garden. I put some goldies and little black fish in it to eat the bugs.
All was well until I put in a lotus plant. Now the fish are fucking like there is no tommorow and from a handful of originals I now have a hundred or so fry, mostly the black ones but some gold too. I checked under the lotus leaves and it is covered in eggs of various states of hatching.

Is there a suitable fish in shops that I can add that will eat most, but not all the fry?
i.e something that will check the growth of the tank, but not eat it dry.

Go to the source. When I encounter problems like this, I pop over to the fish shop, explain the problem, and they can quickly set me up with the correct local predator. Of course, you might have to take a Thai speaker; don't know how good your Thai is. You might also want to bag a sample of what fish you have in there to take along to ensure that whatever you get will eat the eggs, but not kill all your fish in a spasm of ethnic cleansing.

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Is there a suitable fish in shops that I can add that will eat most, but not all the fry?

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The little black fish might be mollies. They are live breeders and multiply at an astounding rate. The eggs on the plants are from the goldfish.
Suggest you get 2 or 3 small catfish and put them in the pond. They will eat the fry. As they are farmed you can find at a shop that sells fingerlings.
Good luck trying to find a balance. The catfish will eat their fill. When they get big take them out and eat em.:)

The small dark fish you have are wild minnows. They do multiply like rabbits and faster. The small dark fish with rainbow colored tails are fancy guppies. They too seem to lack a sense of birth control. As far as keeping them from over running your pond, (and they will) all you can do is give them away or do as I did, found some snake head babies...Honestly, it works. Norton has the better idea with the small catfish though...Good luck...I have three ponds at 1,000, 780 and 600 gallons and am forever giving away small minnows and guppies.

small fry are delicious fried!

when they are about 2 or 3 cm long, just catch, coat in a light batter and fry

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small fry are delicious fried!

when they are about 2 or 3 cm long, just catch, coat in a light batter and fry

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1-you should collect the small fish lets say( 80%) since the pond is overpopulated anyway,

2-go down the farm collect a few banana leaves

3- create a little pouch with the leaves

4- get the fish, now washed throuly add some local aromatic herbs, fonchilote, sugar, salt, mix everything in a bowl,

5- then place a hand full of the mix into each of the pouches you made early, then seal it with tooth picks made of bamboo

6 get the fire going with some old sandal, add some wood stolen from the local forest,
once the fire goes down a bit and you get the red hot charcoal, place the pouch of fish on the charcoal for 15 mins,

grab some sticky rice meanwhile, some lao kao and your in for a great meal.

don't forget to invite the mrs, the family will invite themselves.

Enjoy

Woke up this morning and my fish problem of yesterday has turned into a minor issue.
All the eggs hatched overnight and there are now hundreds and hundreds of them, maybe up to a thousand.
Basically the walls and floor of the tank are carpeted.

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Off to the fish shop, will update if we find a suitable predator, on that won't grow big enough to eat the established fish..

Never seen that happen before. They look more like tadpoles than fish!

You could be right, they are so tiny it's hard to tell.
I'll take some to the shop with me.

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I'll take some to the shop with me.

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You could sell them back to the shop owner.

Quite a tidy little business if you do it right.

If you have a dog you can let him drink out of the fish pond and get a nice seafood meal at the same time. :)

My three dogs all drink out of the lotus ponds we have and that seems to be keeping the fish population under control.

If they are tadpoles you are sorted, my experience is they are only too happy to eat eat each other.... Saying tha I've seen a video footage of a guppy giving birth, and then immediately eating her fry.

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You could be right, they are so tiny it's hard to tell.
I'll take some to the shop with me.

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You are very kind. Are you going to take them to the cinema as well ?

that reminds me of a joke

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Buy a couple Angelfish. Available at any fish shop, cheap and should do ok in your pond. Pretty as well. They gobble up about anything they can fit in mouth.

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Ok, samples in hand off to SanamLuang2 (map)
If you have never been there, its directly west of Bkk, but luckily not to far from my place. Picture JJ market before the masses and aircon etc and you've pretty much got it.
A massive sheltered market spread out over about 3.5 hectares there is not much you wont find on offer. From fishing gear, airsoft, second hand jeans and boots, OTOP items, handcrafts, garden, pets and fish, the usual knockoffs and small stalls selling whatever Somchai has nicked the day before. Plan on a full day of walking an eating, and get there early as parking is a nightmare, plenty of carparks, but being out of the way everyone drives.

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Guns! Including a Daisy Lever BB that I owned about 38 years ago, in perfect nick.

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2nd hand or temple liberated boots. (in big sizes)

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All the pavilions are surrounded by the usual thai snacks, but their are also several large areas for restaurants and sit down eating.

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I don't know what it is about selling somtam and squid that requires this guy to have enough radios to direct a small war, but apparently he does need them.

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Stereo installations done while you wait.

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Lots of second hand guitars and amps, reinforcing my decision not to try to learn the guitar..

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If you are a dictator, ancient god or just into yourself, this guy will carve you an epic bust.

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Wandered around for ages in the pavillions asking for where the fish shops were, always to be sent in the complete opposite direction...Why do they open their mouths if they don't fucking know??

But finally locate it. right in the central marketplace....

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Lots of shops for fish , ponds, fountains, pumps filters, you name it. In the pavillions smaller stalls usually specializing in some sort or another. The Beta guy confirmed our samples were tadpoles and promptly fed them to one of his fighting fish.

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We bought some crayfish to clean up the bottom of the pond and a few bottom feeding fish.

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Lots of big display fish available as well as the inevitable Koi.

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We ended up adding handful of algae/crap eaters, two big (4cm) crays, who promptly hid under a rock and haven't been seen since... As well as two of the more carnivorous of the goldfish types, 4-5 cm and pale pink. They hunt as a pack and pretty much boss all the sedate goldies around.
Was going to take pics but the missus dumped the fish before I could..

One of the predators..
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I also stopped feeding the fish at all, now all nice and fat and virtually all of the tadpoles have been disposed of.

Big difference if you compare with the first pics.

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damn i thought those pictures would never finish

^ Have a red.

^^ Glad you got it sorted! Do you have any more info on the crayfish you purchased? I have seen a few on sale before, I reckon they would make an interesting pet!

Nice pics too :)

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No, only they were 80 baht each and a couple of different colors available. I got red ones, not that you can see them in the pond unless you go spotlighting.
She did say they won't grow to pot size Ina small pond. Shame that...

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No, only they were 80 baht each and a couple of different colors available. I got red ones, not that you can see them in the pond unless you go spotlighting.
She did say they won't grow to pot size Ina small pond. Shame that...

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http://http://voices.yahoo.com/the-u...um-179827.html

Seems I can add one to my aquarium.

My neighbor raises crayfish. I had never seen any crayfish that were so colorful. Beautiful things they are. I gave up my aquariums a few years ago, but seeing those made me want to give it a go.

Do they fight? I noticed she had them separated.

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Big difference if you compare with the first pics.

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Appears you have it sorted for now. Likely will have to do a few changes as time goes by but good job.

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I gave up my aquariums a few years ago, but seeing those made me want to give it a go.

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They are great but do not put them in a community tank with other fish. They are killers. The wife made the mistake of putting 2 in our aquarium. In less than 36 hrs 5 fish disappeared.

I think the combined value of the fish in the pond is about $10
I'll just let nature find its balance, if the crays turn predator, well the fish seem breed happy, ill see what the balance turns out like.

That's not a goldfish it's a comet :mid:

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Originally Posted by Necron99

Woke up this morning and my fish problem of yesterday has turned into a minor issue.
All the eggs hatched overnight and there are now hundreds and hundreds of them, maybe up to a thousand.
Basically the walls and floor of the tank are carpeted.

https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2013/02/119.jpg



Off to the fish shop, will update if we find a suitable predator, on that won't grow big enough to eat the established fish..

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I would suggest a pachon, as Thais say, patchon gin pla noi.when they are big they are delicious:chitown:

I thought this thread was about a pond

but it is about a little dish type thing

quite nice pics though

For those asking about the crays, these are the colors on offer.
I watched this tank for a while, little bit of scrapping, mostly along color lines...

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Good info and, despite what PoorFalang said :), good pics. Anybody know a good fish/pond supply place up in Chiang Mai? :)

Go to Kamtien Market, just behind Tesco Lotus on the Super Highway. It is a flower market with all sorts of gardening supplies including everything for setting up a pond or aquarium. Pointless to tell you which shops since there are many along the small streets back there. Just park your car and wander around.

Record "Woman's Hour" off Radio 4 when there's a radical feminist on and play it over to them on a loop, they'll soon loose the will to live and die of their own accord.

Cheers