:bananaman: Hello, everyone, I want to know is there an app to monitor computer activities?
In fact, I am a boss, I just want to know what my employees are doing during work time.
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:bananaman: Hello, everyone, I want to know is there an app to monitor computer activities?
In fact, I am a boss, I just want to know what my employees are doing during work time.
Team Viewer
what they are doing during work time ? probably like everyone else, watching porn, checking emails and posting on forums
Employee will know if team viewer is active.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwang
There is discrete monitoring software available, have a look on google.
Don't encourage this guy, spying on your employees is lower than a dead donkeys nutsack IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Fondles
VNC server on each machine
Are you trying to monitor their internet activity (email and browsing) or see if they're playing solitaire?
Either way, it's a management problem, not an IT problem.
I don't support spying either, but there are many reasons why a boss needs to have at least a bit of insight into his employees' work; especially when you cannot be in the same office with them all the time. We are using a non-intrusive software to have an idea about how much and what work the employees are doing, it is called 'my team monitor'. The employee turns it on when he starts working and off at the end of the shift, and he can turn it off while having a break. The program will show me how many minutes they were active during each day. It also logs the number of keystrokes and mouse clicks to keep track of how actively they were doing their job, and it takes screenshots to show what they were working on. It doesn't record any private data. You can go to myteammonitor dot com to sign up. It is even free, so you can try it without commitment. They have a stealth version, as well, for seamless monitoring, but we already discussed what we think about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alrale
Do you have turnstiles on the bogs as well?
The more ineffective the boss, the more 'insight' is needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteCalvin
If you have to be in the same office all the time or run spyware, let's call a spade a spade, you really need demotion IMHO.
A modern boss's isn't supposed to be slave driver.
Yea I know. But, but, but.
I would suggest you hire hookers to ingratiate themselves with the employees and have them interrogate the hapless fellows when they are in flagrante delicto or after whilst laying in the glow of a successful expulsion
they could report back to you via carrier pigeon
It seems like bosses who need this kind of tech to work out if their employees are doing their jobs or not aren't doing their own jobs. Does anyone know an app that I can send into the classroom to teach English?
I use Software from these people :
Computer and Internet Monitoring Software | SpectorSoft
It's installed on all my Salesmens' Laptops (and yes, they know it is there), they all work out of the Office, only returning for 1 day every two weeks or so for a debrief so I need to be sure they are doing the work assigned to them.
Perfectly sensible management safeguard as far as I am concerned.
Patrick
And there i was thinking a salesman's job was to sell, and you judge him on his results over time, not spy on him like a nanny. I must be getting old.
Who'davethunk.
Why not get all employees one of these?
Then all you paranoid control freaks can sleep easy knowing your slaves are toeing the company line.
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Originally Posted by Patrick
What's that got to do with seeing everything they do on their laptops ?
Obviously you don't trust them, they probably think you're a bit of a cnut behind your back
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Are Your Employees:
Spending all day playing online games?
Chatting with friends and family?
Really working from home?
Employees average more than 45 minutes EVERY DAY doing personal surfing from work.
If I was working for you, you would be finding a stack of gay and beastiality images even though I'm as straight as an arrow:)Quote:
Perfectly sensible management safeguard as far as I am concerned.
Patrick
Frederick
The average employee wastes nearly two hours per day (this doesn't include lunch or scheduled breaks) screwing around with personal stuff, and most of that is surfing the internet- if you're a boss paying an hourly wage, you would ideally like to know when your workers are basically stealing from you. While I agree that 'spying' seems excessive, employees shouldn't be wasting paid time on company-owned computers, and, in a large corporation, it's not easy to know who's pulling their weight and who isn't if there isn't some way to directly check their work- it's much easier to steal time on a computer than on a construction site, i.e.
Price Tag for Lost Productivity: $544 Billion, Motivating Employees Article - Inc. Article | Inc.com
A friend of mine installed software that allowed him to ban certain sites like Facebook and other social networking sites rather than go down the route of spying on his staff.
It can't be that hard to do I would have thought ?
^
I don't know if you could ban the entire Internet outside of work-related stuff, but perhaps it's possible.
Checking an employee's work and productivity is standard in all industries- if you work on an assembly line or retail store there's always a supervisor monitoring your performance- what's so sacrosanct about a company-owned computer that the boss can't check it to see how it's being used during paid working hours? Company property is there for company business- if someone is spending two hours per day on Facebook and is getting paid an hourly wage, I would want to know if that person worked for me and I was paying for that time.
If your employees aren't doing their jobs, and you don't know it without spying on their computers, then you're a shit manager.
Rather than spy, why not block all common sites such as youtube and messenger services etc. That's what the boss did at my previous office employments. Spying is going too far i think.
I don't think knowing how company property is being used is 'spying'.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
If you have a department with dozens of people who primarily work on computers, a few (or more than a few) could definitely slide by on the work of others that are being more productive if productivity is assessed on a departmental rather than individual basis. If some guy is on a terminal but you can't see his screen, it's not OK if he's spending much of the day on social network sites- yeah, he may be highly productive for a few hours, but why should I have to pay for the hours he's not working? Unless a supervisor has some sort of ability to actual supervise, you can't call them 'shit'.
I would let employees know that computers may be monitored rather than doing it surreptitiously, but if you're on a company machine on company time, you have to expect to be supervised.
Again, why are all other aspects of a company subject to scrutiny, but a computer isn't? Because you have the opportunity to steal time on it with personal stuff?
steal time ?Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
I think your attitude is incorrect - you do not totally own your employees just because you pay them a small sum of money
So employees don't owe me work for the time I'm paying them to do their jobs? Who says it's a 'small sum of money' (and what does the amount have to do with it)? How much are you willing to pay for the two hours everyday that I spend on Facebook during company time if I work for you? Employees receive lunch breaks and other breaks over the course of a day where they can attend to non-essential personal matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by baldrick
You're right- I don't 'own' my employees, but they are selling me their time- if they take my money without offering anything in return, they are not fulfilling their contract- how is that not stealing from me? I'm not talking about being a slave-driver or making an issue out of a quick check of personal email or whatever, but if well over an hour of company time per day is wasted surfing the net, that adds up to nearly a full day of work per week and weeks lost over the course of a year.
I run a couple of businesses, and I find employees screwing around and doing as little as possible all the time (even with supervisors in place- they can't be watched every minute)- I can understand trying to get away with something from their perspective, but as the person who comes up with the payroll out-of-pocket every month, I find it disheartening.
Spying on computer use seems excessive (though as I said bosses should let employees know their company computers are subject to scrutiny, just like any other company process), but when it costs you a lot of money every year in lost productivity, you want to do all you can to combat it, and reduce it if possible (two hours a day on average seems like a lot, doesn't it?)
if you can get your work completed and have 2 hours for facebook - why should I care ?Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
logically you must be paying them less money than they make for the companyQuote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
Completed? In a company the work is ongoing- you are being paid to work a certain amount of hours- if your work is done, why not punch out for the day rather than hang on to be paid for nothing? If you were paying for the time you would care. You're also under the assumption that these time-wasters are efficient people who get a lot done in a short time- that's unlikely. If you can be productive for three hours, you can probably be productive for six hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by baldrick
I don't see how your point regarding compensation being an issue is 'logical' in a way that is germane to this topic- you took a job at a certain pay rate- if you're not willing to work for the money you agreed upon, quit, but don't expect to be compensated for time you waste. Obviously most companies exist for profit- the fact the company (hopefully) makes money on an employee's time is a given, regardless of the amount they are paid.
Someone I know kept asking me about replacements for one of his employees (ITC support in a money brokers). His reason: That half the time he was sat around playing on the computer.
I had to explain to him that if the bloke's sat at the computer, it's because everything is running OK, which is what he paid him for.
And that the time to worry would be if the guy was running around like a maniac, because the chances are that things were going badly wrong.
If you are being paid "by the hour", then you're probably in manufacturing, where production targets are easily measurable, or a temp.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafeCompleted? In a company the work is ongoing- you are being paid to work a certain amount of hours- if your work is done, why not punch out for the day rather than hang on to be paid for nothing? If you were paying for the time you would care. You're also under the assumption that these time-wasters are efficient people who get a lot done in a short time- that's unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by baldrick
I don't see how your point regarding compensation being an issue is 'logical' in a way that is germane to this topic- you took a job at a certain pay rate- if you're not willing to work for the money you agreed upon, quit, but don't expect to be compensated for time you waste. Obviously most companies work for profit- the fact the company (hopefully) makes money on an employee's time is a given, regardless of the amount they are paid.
For everyone else you are being paid to do a job. It isn't difficult to apply metrics to that, without having to resort to spying on people.
Obviously it depends on the type of company and the position- it can certainly be difficult to identify the time-wasters in a large department- to make it sound like these people who spend as much of the day surfing the net as possible are actually effectively doing their jobs is ridiculous.
Again, why is every company aspect subject to scrutiny except for company computers, which are somehow deemed exempt?
^ They aren't deemed exempt, your IT department normally knows what's going on (or it should do).
If it's a smaller company, it should be a piece of piss to spot the skivers a fucking mile off without resorting to this nasty, insidious behavour.
You certainly won't get any respect from your employees if you treat all of them in such a vile way.
^
I agree that IT should know what's going on and report any excessive Internet use to the boss- my assumption re: the OP was that there was no IT department in place (which a smaller company probably wouldn't have).
It's not as easy to spot the slackers in a group of eight or ten as you might think.
If there's no IT department, does the boss still have the right to know how the computers he owns are being used? Again, I don't like the idea of 'spying' but I'm ok with employees knowing that their company computer access might be monitored.
...Depends how big the site is... :cop::) That being said at our site only a few had internet access.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
It is also possible to hire guys that look busy but achieve very little.
The other route would be simply to tell the employees that the software has been installed, even if it hasn't that was n spying just the acknowledgement that you are concerned they are wasting time. If they are using say Outlook which stores messages for transmission later, control the time(s) of access to the outside world.
^ Yes. In most companies they're called "managers".
:)
Yep, you got that one 100% correct Harold! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
I recommend CCTV in the toilets
We have an RFID clocking in system with turnstiles etc., as much for security as anything else. I was once called to a meeting where I was asked by the boss to promise I wouldn't laugh!
We have buses that run around various company locations, and it turned out some prick in HR wanted to put the clocking in system on the buses "to make sure people aren't avoiding work by riding around on them".
When I'd finished laughing, I asked him what employees usually do for a bit of a skive. No answer.
Wander off and have a chat with a colleague.
Go and have a cuppa.
Nip to the bog with the newspaper.
A little Toc H light bulb lit up and off he went with his tail between his legs.
Fucking idiots, always trying to manage problems that don't exist.
Your employees have a job and there are better ways to measure if they are being productive than spying on them, simple as.
Back when I had to work for a living I worked in the telecommunications and fibre optics division. I ran 5 teams of installation engineers that worked throughout the UK and Europe. All the guys spent the week, sometimes two away from home every night. I was often asked to work to very tight deadlines. Often the client manager would ask if I could have the job installed by a certain date. My reply was always as long as you are prepared to pay the engineers to work the weekend then it shouldn't be a problem.
So Monday morning rocks up and I gather the guys together. I explain the situation and tell then I need it installed and ready for testing by next Monday coming. If they can do that they will get paid for the weekend. So they have a target but instead of pissing it off all day and taking their time they had an option. They can work their little butts off and instead of clocking off at 4pm and heading to the hotel bar to drink away their overnight allowance they would stop there onsite till 10-11pm. Come Friday late they are all done and dusted and are all off home.
Now come Monday everyone should be happy. The manager of the switch centre has his equipment installed as I promised him it would be, the company I work for has been paid the money they charge to have engineers work at the weekend which is a shit load more than they actually give the guys and I got some well earned Brownie points.
But every now and then you get a manager above who is a right wanker and fails to see everyone is a winner. I get a call on Monday to say that the guys didn't work the weekend and were actually at home so he isn't going to pay them the overtime WTF !!
His reasoning is if the guys didn't work why should they be paid.
The guy is a dick wipe. So he doesn't pay the guys as I promised.
Come the next contract when things are a little behind and he asks the guys to help him out you can guess the answer.
The dick wipe in question ended up getting fired for losing too many contracts and I ended up with his job, company car and company credit card. All the people below me knew me by reputation and for me as long as they did the work I asked them to do, and having risen through the ranks I fully understood what was taking the piss, they got their little freebies. Case in point. I know the equipment has been delayed and wont be on site till Tuesday. A call to the engineer going to the job to let him know that he can stay home Monday but get there for the Tuesday gives him an extra day off with the family and I get some respect.
The thing was if ever I needed the guys to do a job super quick, stay abroad another few weeks even though the missus was giving them grief, work over Xmas etc they did it.
You sometimes have to balance being a tight fisted hard Scrooge with someone who gives a little but won't be taken the piss out of !
As said sometimes it pays to give a little
The staff I have in Thailand all know where the limit of taking the piss is and that for me here is the hard part !
^
Didn't your company offer overtime pay for working more than an eight-hour day? It seems that the workers would have been entitled to 6-7 hours OT per day if they were working until after 10pm when they usually clocked off at 4pm. If they received OT than not paying them for the weekend was fair- if they didn't than the company was in the wrong.
I think his point went flying straight over your head.