Thaksin’s alleged secret talks

Opposition leader ready to disclose information on Thaksin’s alleged secret talks

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BANGKOK, April 8 – The opposition is ready to disclose information on alleged talks between ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra and southern insurgent leaders, said Opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said on Sunday.

His remarks came after the government told the opposition to reveal information regarding its claims that ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra held talks with insurgent leaders.

The opposition side stated they are willing to reveal this information privately, as this is an important matter and the existing problem is related to several ongoing matters.

All parties concerned should be present to acknowledge the information, which he said does not only come from websites but also from confirmation of parties involved in the talks.

Regarding Pol Col Thawee Sodsong, secretary-general of the Southern Border Provinces Administration Centre meeting an entrepreneur of the Tom Yam Kung club, which operates restaurants in Malaysia, Mr Abhisit said they have met several times and the opposition has gathered information from many parties including Malaysian authorities.

Meanwhile, Anusorn Iamsa-ard, the acting government spokesman affirmed that Mr Thaksin is not involved in intervening in the government’s policies and called for the opposition leader to disclose their evidence and take legal action if he has pictures or video clips. He said the opposition should not accuse Mr Thaksin without evidence.

The spokesman said the government and the army have no policies to negotiate with insurgents.

Songkhla MP Thaworn Senneam on Thursday cited informed sources as saying that Mr Thaksin recently held talks with the Pattani United Liberation Organisation (PULO) in a neighbouring country.

The Democrat MPs asked the government to investigate the PULO website where Mr Thaksin was said to be pictured embracing its leader.

The pace of violence has picked up since militants first raided an army base in Narathiwat early 2004, reviving long-running tensions and triggering an insurgency along the Muslim-majority region bordering Malaysia. (MCOT online news)

SECRET MEETING
Did Thaksin meet insurgents?
Don Pathan
The Nation

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Yes he did, many sources say

BANGKOK: -- Alleged sightings of fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra meeting quietly with Muslim insurgent chieftains just before the bloody bombings in Songkhla and Yala have kicked up a major political storm. The ruling Pheu Thai Party and the man himself have vehemently denied any such rendezvous. Several sources, including some from the insurgency side, have contradicted that, however.

The Nation has learned some details of the "meeting", in which Thaksin supposedly stopped short of apologising but expressed regret for some of the violent incidents carried out by authorities during his administration.

The sources said he told the group of 15 exiled leaders from long-standing Malay Muslim separatist groups that his harsh tactics in the deep South were partly the result of his being "misinformed" by authorities.

Thaksin urged all sides to let bygones be bygones and work together to bring peace back to the restless region. He gave each exiled leader a hug before leaving, according to the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Thaksin was not accompanied by any Thai government official to the meeting in the middle of last month, about two weeks before the bomb attacks in Yala and Hat Yai, that was facilitated by a Malaysian government agency.

"I thought he [Thaksin] was sincere with his gesture," said one exiled separatist who was at the meeting. "But this conflict is beyond the control of one man."

Refusing to take part in the secret meeting were the elders of the Barisan Revolusi Nasional-Coordinate (BRN-C), whose cadre told The Nation that they "could never forgive Thaksin for what he has done to the Malays of Patani" when he was premier. They pointed to the Tak Bai massacre and other incidents in which he refused to punish abusive authorities.

This source said it didn't matter whether Thaksin's overtures were sincere or not because the so-called exiled leaders whom Thaksin met had no real influence on the militants in the field.

The BRN-Coordinate's refusal to deal with the Thaksin camp does not mean that the group has ruled out the idea of talking or negotiating with the Thai state. There are other entities in the Kingdom that they are willing to talk to but only if the "situation" is right, the source said.

The BRN-C member said his outfit has the best working relationship with the Juwae, or armed militants currently operating on the ground, but the relationship is too fluid to establish a shared command.

Juwae are organised into semi-independent cells that span the three southernmost provinces of Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat and the four Malay-speaking districts in Songkhla. Juwae and the BRN-Coordinate are working towards establishing a shared command.

Unless the BRN-C and the Juwae can consolidate into one entity, with the BRN leaders forming the political wing and juwae the military wing of the movement, it would be difficult to move forward with any negotiations or peace talks with the Thai side, the source said.

According to exiled leaders, there isn't much unity among the so-called Patani Malay separatist groups, many of whom surfaced in the late 1960s to take up arms against the Thai state.

The Patani United Liberation Organisation (Pulo), for example, has three persons claiming to be the president of the group. Similarly, the identities of the members of the BRN-Coordinate remain heavily guarded. Like Pulo, the BRN-Coordinate has many self-professed leaders.

In the view of one BRN-Coordinate cadre from the faction that boycotted the Thaksin meeting, the recent attack in Yala that killed at least 11 people and wounded more than 100 was the juwae's way of turning down Thaksin's offer of an olive branch.

Hat Yai was hit on the same day as Yala but Hat Yai was not on the separatist movement's agenda, the source said.

The car bombing of the Lee Gardens Plaza Hotel in Hat Yai was probably part of a turf war between influential figures with an axe to grind with authorities, the source said.

Juwae selling their skills to crime syndicates is not uncommon, he said. The Lee Gardens Plaza hotel and shopping complex was also targeted in September 2006 when one of the six motorcycle bombs that rocked the city exploded right in front of it.

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has denied an allegation he held talks with southern insurgents in Malaysia.

HONG KONG: -- "I am not in the position to conduct such negotiations since I am just an unemployed man," he said in an interview in Hong Kong.

Two Democrat MPs, Prasert Phongsuwansiri and Thaworn Senneam, alleged that an insurgency-linked website posted a picture of Thaksin in a meeting with some 18 southern insurgents, voicing suspicion that recent bomb attacks in Hat Yai and Yala might have been set off by insurgents opposing the talks.

Thaksin said remarks by the two Democrats were groundless, insisting he had never met with any insurgent leaders, including those from the PULO movement.

He said talks, if ever they take place, should be with a neighbouring country like Malaysia in order to deny the insurgents a safe haven. When Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra paid a visit to Kuala Lumpur in February, she sought Malaysian cooperation in tracking down the insurgents, he said.

Although in his opinion, every war should end at the negotiating table and not the battlefield, the Thai government should not be a direct party engaged in talks with insurgents, Thaksin said.

Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said he was willing to share any information gathered by the Democrats to help the government shed light on the so-called "secret" talks.

Abhisit said the Democrats had been informed via several sources, including the Malaysian authorities, that Thai officials had had a number of meetings with insurgents.

He said the idea to form a special administrative zone in Pattani as floated by former PM Chavalit Yongchaiyudh should be viewed with caution.

In past elections, the idea was billed as a campaign pledge, but none of the candidates were elected on such a platform, he said, claiming local residents had already rejected the formation of a special administrative zone.

In regard to designation of insurgency-prone areas, he said the Democrats were willing to work with security authorities in convincing local residents to accept any inconvenience caused by security checks.

He urged authorities to step up prevention measures for vehicle theft which was a precursor to car bombs.

Chavalit said the continuing southern insurgency was proof the government had failed to come up with a remedy to restore peace in the South.

He said the insurgency would persist if the government could not meet the aspirations of local residents.

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An essentially different interpretation of events ties the attacks directly to recent political initiatives by former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and the secretary-general of the Southern Border Provinces Administration Center, Thawee Sodsong. Thawee, a former policeman recently appointed to the position by the Puea Thai administration headed by Thaksin's sister Yingluck Shinawatra, had recently revived the idea of a "Mahanakhorn Pattani" structure that would devolve a measure of self-rule to the insurgency-hit border provinces.

Thaksin has reportedly visited Malaysia several times this year to hold meetings with both Prime Minister Najib Razak and former premier Mahathir Muhammad. According to several well-placed sources, these meetings have resulted in older-generation separatists from various factions resident in Malaysia being strong-armed by Malaysian Special Branch police into attending meetings both with representatives of SBPAC chief Thawee and finally with Thaksin himself to discuss ways of addressing the grievances of Thailand's Malay Muslim community.

Some of these separatist elements reportedly included figures from the Barisan Revolusi Nasional (BRN) - the party generally understood to be the organizational driving force behind the insurgency. Other BRN elements boycotted the meetings, according to one source in contact with them.

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he is a delusional d1ckhead

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let me just say - suck my c0ck

He, Thaksin. is looking a little fat.
Probably all that BS he comes out with.

The former phase Thailand Thaksin went to Long Tynan organization to meet the peace talks fail
April 4 2012
Exclusive report: Li Zhenwei

(Hat Yai, on the 3rd) to calm the violent action of the free Muslim militants in southern Thailand, the former Thai Prime Minister a letter with the leaders of the Pattani independence movement organization "(PULO), in Kuala Lumpur last month to conduct a peaceful negotiations, but the negotiations. position differences between the two sides deadlocked, ended in failure.

Said to this reporter's visit, according to Tynan Frontier House political adviser to thank Choi Wing, these negotiations continents hotel in Kuala Lumpur on March 18, Thaksin talks on behalf of the Thai Prime Minister Advisory think tank "The Pattani The independence movement "aspect of the organization's leader Hassan.

He pointed out that the negotiations by the Thaksin personally asked to meet with each other. Thaksin's sister English Lak last year as Prime Minister of Thailand, Thaksin Shinawatra, in an advisory capacity to become one of the members of the Prime Minister consultancy think-tank. According to thank fiscal Wing, Thaksin England smart when Prime Minister, in an advisory capacity to assist Britain smart to support the regime to quell the southern Thailand riots is one of its objectives.

"However, due to Pattani independence movement organizations do not want to compromise his letter of offer that Thaksin can not accept the requirements of the organization, and ultimately these negotiations at a stalemate situation, ultimately ended in failure."

Dr Choi Wing would not say when asked about the details of the negotiations and conditions. He is to accept this exclusive access to analyze the situation in southern Thailand riots, to disclose the news. He said Tynan free tissue, two Muslim Pattani independence movement and of BRM Group, if the Thai government to quell the violence in southern Thailand, it is required to resolve these two organizations.

He mentioned the two groups, although different organizations, but between each other; Pattani independence movement now has forces in Thailand, but in a world still enjoy a certain status, and the BRM Group, is accused of lurking in the Tynan kept the terror attacks culprits. He said that if the Thai government to incorporate "Pattani independence movement towards the Tynan peace on the road will be riding that step, but unfortunately the same day his letter negotiations there is no breakthrough.

He said the bombings Saturday in Hat Yai, Yala occurred, allegedly of BRM Group members, and the police have mastered the two suspects. Dr Choi Wing is the Chairman of the the Tynan Newspaper Association of Thailand, "Daily News" Tynan Regional Manager, he is the senior newspaper people in southern Thailand, but also by the Thai Government appointed Tynan Frontier House political adviser.

BRM Group with terrorist attack fight for independence Xie Choi Wing: The Government will not agree

Xie pointed out that the fiscal wing of BRM Group recently exposed plans to use 10 years from the years 2012-2022, to the expulsion of southern Thailand Yala, to move out of one hundred Danian and Narathiwat province's ethnic Chinese and Thai, to unify the three government for the autonomous regions, and then engage in independent.

He said that the position of the Thai government will never allow and do not agree with the "BRM Group in the southern independence, and therefore the BRM Group launched a series of violent attacks, in order to achieve their separatist. He mentioned, it is expected that the the Tynan terrorist violence will continue to happen, people will continue to live in fear of life all the time under threat.

He admits that the previous Thai government do nothing to solve to meet, because the ultimate goal of the free organization of the Muslims in Southern Thailand is a requirement from the jurisdiction of the government, and demands for autonomy and independent countries such as East Timor. He admitted that the official Government has so far could not find any solution to deal with.

Dr Choi Wing said that the biggest mistake Thaksin ruling is directly use tough measures to cope with the free elements of the southern Thailand Muslim, so a negative effect and the opposite effect, leading to more terrorist attack event occurs, the innocent bystander of the people hurt.

BRM Group was established over 40 years to instill in the members of the extremist ideas

BRM Group, established in southern Thailand over 40 years, compared to the Pattani longer history of independent sports organizations, but the concept of lack of organization, number of members is unknown.

The Group is the use of religion to lure others to join the Group, and start brainwashing scheme straight secondary education from kindergarten to open. Kindergarten 4-year-old completed secondary education until the age of 21, members are taught extremist ideas, so when the members of the age of 21, they become a new force of the riots.

According to thank fiscal Wing, the BRM Group and management system, even without direction, while the recent Tynan terrorist attack event, it is a show of strength by the group plan to their members to violence. In normal daily life, the behavior of members of the group, has its own work on the surface of a good citizen of the ordinary people, they are in receipt of the instructions of the leader, will expand the terrorist attack action.

He said, BRM Group also received financial assistance of the free foreign Muslim organizations, these organizations are willing to provide financial assistance to the BRM Group, In addition, the Group is usually engaged in illegal businesses, such as drug trafficking, smuggling of gasoline, population, in order to get funds . These funds, mainly to cope with the overhead of the religious schools and the Group overhead.

Requirements of free tissue to return the Jitai Zheng government failing to deal with members of the

The Thai government has been seeking a solution to the situation in southern Thailand unrest, including the requirement the Tynan free Muslim intellectuals come forward negotiations to avoid the people to be more damage.

Dr Choi Wing said, "Pattani independence movement organization recently referred to negotiations with Thaksin, to the dissolution of the group, the first condition is to allow foreign organizations free to return home the same time let the organization's national security adviser, to assist the Thai government. In addition, they hope that the Government can not refer to any statute or charges to arrest their members.

Pattani independence movement also hope that the testimony of members of the Council of the United Nations, with the Thai Government to formally open negotiations. "

He also mentioned that the independence movement in Pattani has been kept in the international community to render the negative image of the Thai government has been the International believes that the Thai government to use violence in southern Thailand Muslim people; make attacks when the BRM Group, Pattani independence movement took the opportunity to undermine the international image of the government of Thailand.

He said that the independence movement in Pattani want to get government money to assist, to give them the opportunity of equal treatment and access to education and development status in southern Thailand.

Worry boundary 3 House people to incite

Tynan biggest problem is the House the people of the border more than half are not interested in politics, the group of people which is most worried about because the government is afraid of them vulnerable to incite the BRM Group, mistakenly think that the government has been to bully people.

Xie Choi Wing playing a proportion of that in southern 3 House 100 people, of which only 20 people believe the government, 30 members of the "of BRM Group" and the remaining 50 the people in politics is not interested in these 50 people at any time will be because they heard the rumors, I believe the BRM Group and then identify the group to engage in independent purpose.

Awaiting identification of nearly 200 motorcycle

Liyuan Hotel staff and the police, the motorcycle to move outside the hotel has underground parking, there are nearly 200 motorcycles parked outside the hotel for owners to claim.

10:00 in the morning, many local people have been queuing to register with the police, after police officers led to claim and receive their motorcycle. Many employees work in Liyuan Hotel and Plaza are riding a motorcycle to work. Basically, a lot of motorcycles are in good condition no means exhaustive, and not subject to any damage.

According to information provided by the Consulate General of Malaysia, this time a total of 24 Malaysian transport parked in the parking lot, four motorcycles and 20 cars. Self-in Anshun Zhangyun Yu that he hoped the local government and relevant authorities to give priority of foreign tourists and understanding of the status of the car. He and his friends, two families divided driving two cars to Thailand Travel. He also wants to hurry home, because the two daughter has been absent for two days.

Ards Han from Kelantan, said on Friday arrived in Hat Yai, before the explosion he and his family not far from the hotel 200 meters shopping. Heard the explosion, he would rush back to the scene. Xu from Kuala Lumpur, said he has arranged for his family back. Now he just wants to know his friend's car is subject to suffer. Their cars are Toyota Peggy Mae and Lexus.

In addition, the one from Klang, mobility, Mr. Chen said his daughter's car mirror burst, but the body non-destructive.

4 injured with a horse club ambulances to return home

The three Malaysian injured and a Thai woman agree to the ambulance followed by a Malaysian Club to be sent back to the Malaysian hospital.

They are Zhuguo Wen, Zhu Guowen Thai wife, Lim and her husband, Liu to the couple. Chairman of the club this morning to go to the hospital for medical treatment of five of Malaysia's injured, asked wounded agree to be sent home for medical treatment.

The club president Abdul Aziz pointed out, the club received the instructions of Prime Minister Najib Razak, deliberately come to Hat Yai set back to the medical treatment of those injured at the same time can reduce the burden of trouble and Thailand Hospital of the injured family . Malaysia and Thailand are as brothers, if the patient needs will be the obligation to send these Malaysian home.

He said those injured in the Hat Yai hospital may be the face of verbal communication on the difficult, and the injured family in Malaysia will be deeply disturbed. In addition, Thailand is still precarious situation. At present, there are five Malaysians to stay in two hospitals in Hat Yai, two couples between the injured Huangfu Quan and Wong Sze Yee, pledged to continue to stay in Hat Yai Hospital. The couple have relatives in Hat Yai, so do not worry about no one to take care of.

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Adviser adamant Thaksin held talks

Discounts link between meeting, bomb blasts

• Published: 10/04/2012 at 02:40 AM
• Newspaper section: News

A member of the Southern Border Provinces Administration Centre's advisory council insists that former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra did negotiate with a separatist leader in Malaysia.

Thaksin contacted the Pattani United Liberation Organisation (Pulo) to have a talk with its leader in Malaysia on March 18, Chaiyong Maneerungsakul, a member of the Advisory Council for the SBPAC, said.

The information was based on intelligence reports he gathered, he said.

Mr Chaiyong accepted he had earlier given this information to a Chinese language newspaper in Malaysia _ Kwong Wah _ which recently published the news.

The report has been picked up by many observers in Thailand, particularly on social networking sites.

Earlier, Thaksin told the Bangkok Post he was not in a position to hold talks with separatists and strongly denied accusations by Democrat MPs who last week claimed he had met representatives of rebel groups.

Some of those who claim he held the talks have cited a photo of Thaksin hugging a Pulo leader.

Mr Chaiyong said Thaksin was also trying to hold a second round of talks, but after his earlier talks with the separatist leader were made pubic, the negotiations probably would be terminated.

Mr Chaiyong does not believe Thaksin's recent talk with the Pulo leader led to the March 31 bomb blasts in Songkhla's Hat Yai district and in Yala because the bombs were believed to have been plotted as long ago as late last year by the Barisan Revolusi Nasional-Coordinate separatist group. This was before the talks were held.

A possible link between negotiations with insurgent groups and the bomb blasts in Hat Yai and Yala province was earlier raised by army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha who was worried that talking with only certain groups might infuriate others and motivate them to launch violent acts.

Violence in the deep South continued yesterday when insurgent suspects torched 18 security cameras in Yala's Raman district.

Eight street cameras in tambon Kotabaru, eight in tambon Noen Ngam and two in tambon Ba Ngoi were damaged when arsonists placed burning motorcycle tyres under them, police said.

A group of teenagers driving motorcycles was thought to have been responsible for the arson attacks as they were seen in the early hours yesterday when the fires started, witnesses said.

Investigators said the attacks might be an act of retaliation, after militant suspect Dulahaleng Yamasak and his colleagues were nabbed recently.

In another development, police have asked the court to issue a warrant for the arrest of suspected separatist Seri Waemamu for his alleged involvement in the March 31 car bomb at Lee Gardens Plaza Hotel in Hat Yai district.

Police say he is one of the two men caught by the hotel's security camera as they were walking upstairs from its underground car park, where the car bomb was left.

Mr Seri, a resident in Songkhla's Thepha district, faces arrest warrants in 12 cases, Songkhla police chief Suwit Choensiri said. He denied the other man in the footage was Ruslan Baima, a resident in Songkhla's Chana district, as earlier reported.

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Legal adviser to Thaksin Noppadon states Thaksin was in Malaysia but not to negotiate end to southern violence with PULO

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Thai-ASEAN News Network - Former Legal Adviser to Thaksin: Thaksin Did Not Meet PULO Leaders

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Former Legal Adviser to Thaksin: Thaksin Did Not Meet PULO Leaders

UPDATE : 10 April 2012

A Songkhla MP confirmed that fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has held talks with southern insurgent leaders, while the former legal adviser to Thaksin denied the talks between the two, even though Thaksin has traveled to Malaysia.

Noppadon Pattama, a former legal adviser to fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, insisted that Thaksin did not meet with leaders of the Pattani United Liberation Organization, or PULO, even though he has traveled to Malaysia.

He further denied the issue of Thaksin's appointment as a government adviser, and said that he personally believes that the rumors are aimed to create political chaos.

Noppadon further said that Thaksin and Defense Minister Air Chief Marshal Sukampol Suwannathat have confirmed with the Hong Kong News that Thaksin did not meet with the PULO leaders.

He also asked the Democrat to show evidence and pictures of the talks if the they confirmed that the talks do exist.

Meanwhile, Democrat Songkhla MP Thaworn Senneam said that Thaksin has claimed that he has been appointed as a government adviser and asked Malaysian leaders for a meeting with insurgent leaders, and that this issue is linked to what Thaksin has mentioned before.

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Aide: Thaksin's KL visit not for talks

• Published: 10/04/2012 at 12:47 PM
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Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra did visit Malaysia but not for talks with a leader of the Pattani United Liberation Organisation (Pulo), Noppadon Pattama said on Tuesday.

The legal adviser and close aide of Thaksin said this in an interview on a programme on FM 102.75 radio station.

Mr Noppadon admitted Thaksin visited Malaysia but the former prime minister did not hold talks with a Pulo leader as reported, he said.

He also denied Thaksin visited Malaysia in the capacity of an adviser to the government under Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, adding that there were attempts to make this a political issue.

If members of the Democrat Party had a picture of Thaksin's meeting with the Pulo leader, they should show it to the public, Mr Noppadon said.

Thavorn Senneam, a Democrat MP for Songkhla, insisted he had obtained information that Thaksin claimed he was the prime minister's adviser and asked the Malaysian leader to invite core members of some separatist groups for talks.

The MP said he had never said he had a picture of Thaksin holding talks with a Pulo leader.

Mr Thavorn, a deputy interior minister in the former Democrat-led government, said the question over whether Thaksin had really held talks with a Pulo leader stemmed from the lack of proper coordination between him and those in charge of security affairs.

While in the previous government, he had talks with some separatist groups and what he did was acknowledged by the 4th Army Region commander, he said.

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen was reported by a news agency today as saying that more than 10,000 supporters of Thaksin were expected to travel to Cambodia to see for the former Thai prime minister, who would arrive in Siem Reap on the afternoon of April 14 from Laos.

Hun Sen reportedly said that after meeting his supporters Thaksin would proceed to Phnom Penh to play golf with him on April 16.

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ain't rocket science :mid:

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who knew ?

the Bkk Post reads TD :)

every time Thaksin is denying those things, you know it's true

same with the Amnesty thing in December,

hilarious liar isn't he ? no wonder he has so many admirers here :)

Aide: Thaksin's KL visit not for talks
10/04/2012

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra did visit Malaysia but not for talks with a leader of the Pattani United Liberation Organisation (Pulo), Noppadon Pattama said on Tuesday.

The legal adviser and close aide of Thaksin said this in an interview on a programme on FM 102.75 radio station.

Mr Noppadon admitted Thaksin visited Malaysia but the former prime minister did not hold talks with a Pulo leader as reported, he said.

He also denied Thaksin visited Malaysia in the capacity of an adviser to the government under Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, adding that there were attempts to make this a political issue.

If members of the Democrat Party had a picture of Thaksin's meeting with the Pulo leader, they should show it to the public, Mr Noppadon said.

Thavorn Senneam, a Democrat MP for Songkhla, insisted he had obtained information that Thaksin claimed he was the prime minister's adviser and asked the Malaysian leader to invite core members of some separatist groups for talks.

The MP said he had never said he had a picture of Thaksin holding talks with a Pulo leader.

Mr Thavorn, a deputy interior minister in the former Democrat-led government, said the question over whether Thaksin had really held talks with a Pulo leader stemmed from the lack of proper coordination between him and those in charge of security affairs.

While in the previous government, he had talks with some separatist groups and what he did was acknowledged by the 4th Army Region commander, he said.

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen was reported by a news agency today as saying that more than 10,000 supporters of Thaksin were expected to travel to Cambodia to see for the former Thai prime minister, who would arrive in Siem Reap on the afternoon of April 14 from Laos.

Hun Sen reportedly said that after meeting his supporters Thaksin would proceed to Phnom Penh to play golf with him on April 16.

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He, Thaksin. is looking a little fat.
Probably all that BS he comes out with.

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You must be a real fat porker if that is the case. :)

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hilarious liar isn't he ?

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he is totally delusional - probably thought he could just command them to be good and he would give them some land.

his songkran speech is likely to be a hubris filled laugh for the rational

Yes I am a fat porker, because of what I eat and drink.
Not because of the BS from every time I open my mouth.

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Yes I am a fat porker, because of what I eat and drink.
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But you whole argument that BS from mouth is related to getting fat is totally shot down by Mark. He is still skinny, but makes Thaksin look honest. :chitown:

all he has to do is to prove where he WAS rather than tell us where he was not.

Every politician is a liar, part of the job description, far from a disqualifier.


"Thai Justice System" - "Jumbo shrimp? It's like military intelligence. The words just don't go together." (George Carlin)

Prosecution of anyone with real power here is by definition arbitrary and politically motivated. The so-called "felon on the run" label used so freely here, just as with the whole Thai system of government has no credibility internationally,

The Thai people have the system of government they deserve, let them have the consequences of their choice, give him enough rope to hang himself, and if things get so bad down the road that it's worth risking civil war, the opposition can always stage another coup.

But in the meantime let's give this government a chance to be effective and stop requiring it to be managed by remote control from Dubai.

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all he has to do is to prove where he WAS rather than tell us where he was not.

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you may wish to think about that ?

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Every politician is a liar, part of the job description, far from a disqualifier.


"Thai Justice System" - "Jumbo shrimp? It's like military intelligence. The words just don't go together." (George Carlin)

Prosecution of anyone with real power here is by definition arbitrary and politically motivated. The so-called "felon on the run" label used so freely here, just as with the whole Thai system of government has no credibility internationally,

The Thai people have the system of government they deserve, let them have the consequences of their choice, give him enough rope to hang himself, and if things get so bad down the road that it's worth risking civil war, the opposition can always stage another coup.

But in the meantime let's give this government a chance to be effective and stop requiring it to be managed by remote control from Dubai.

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They've had more than enough time.
An incompetent bunch led by an incompetent PM, who if the script is not written, storms out because she can't answer the question.
Old Maggie proved that beauty is not necessary to be a leader.

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Yes I am a fat porker, because of what I eat and drink.
Not because of the BS from every time I open my mouth.

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But you whole argument that BS from mouth is related to getting fat is totally shot down by Mark. He is still skinny, but makes Thaksin look honest. :chitown:

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Mark has NEVER been found guilty, or charged, of breaking any laws.

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Mark has NEVER been found guilty, or charged, of breaking any laws.

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He was accused of covering up illegal donations by failed petrochemical firm TPI Polene to the Party during the run-up to the 2005 elections (as of 2010, the scandal is still under investigation).

Abhisit Vejjajiva - News - The Jerusalem Post

Ultimately, the Constitutional Court of Thailand acquitted Abhisit and the Democrats of bribery, and instead banned Thaksin's Thai Rak Thai party for the same charges.[41][42]

Abhisit Vejjajiva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

yep squeeky clean is our mark ,

want to buy a bridge ?

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Yes I am a fat porker, because of what I eat and drink.
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But you whole argument that BS from mouth is related to getting fat is totally shot down by Mark. He is still skinny, but makes Thaksin look honest. :chitown:

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Mark has NEVER been found guilty, or charged, of breaking any laws.

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With a one sided judiciary you would expect him to?

Back to the actual discussion, rather then trying to side track it. Mark has continually lied which you expect from a politician but unlike Thaksin he has never taken the blame for anything caused by his decisions or admit to any mistakes.
Maybe an Oxford educated boy from Newcastle is not required to.

The voting public decided who were the murdering low life liars (Dems and their Patrons) and who were the credible high ground truthsayers (PT and khun Taksin).:)

remember that little factual truth you PAD yellow nutters

You can't argue with that

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want to buy a bridge ?

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trying to resell the one you just bought ?

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factual truth

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ah thaskin , the deluded leading the stupid

Bangkok Pundit has a piece on this today....worth a read. Wont post the piece, but click the link to view.

Did Thaksin met with the Deep South insurgents in Malaysia? | Asian Correspondent

Did Thaksin met with the Deep South insurgents in Malaysia?

h/t Teakdoor for the Khong Wah newspaper link



(so he reads us too! Nice...and it should be a hat tip to Mid really, as he posted it)

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Yes I am a fat porker, because of what I eat and drink.
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But you whole argument that BS from mouth is related to getting fat is totally shot down by Mark. He is still skinny, but makes Thaksin look honest. :chitown:

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Mark has NEVER been found guilty, or charged, of breaking any laws.

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With a one sided judiciary you would expect him to?

Back to the actual discussion, rather then trying to side track it. Mark has continually lied which you expect from a politician but unlike Thaksin he has never taken the blame for anything caused by his decisions or admit to any mistakes.
Maybe an Oxford educated boy from Newcastle is not required to.

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Oh, I see. Unlike Thaksin who has repeatedly admitted to:
1: Making money from the devaluation of the Thai Baht.
2: Making a 2 billion US dollar deal in 1 week if changing lecislation re the foreign ownership of Thai companies.
3: Check the facts before posting BS.

^ Incorrect, only a guy with a British passport could get away with that lot :)

I can see from some of the anti-democratic ponging residue left here by the PAD yellow nutter forces of evil supporters that they just don't like this electoral democracy caper.:)

Must be hard to take the fact that the voting public shoved it right up your puff boys riggot, leaving you all so wonderfully deserving bitter and twisted, and of course gay, which goes without saying.

Yep a landslide elction victory for the 4 times elected khun taksin, the greatest thai public servant ever, and made so by the voters

You can't argue with that
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