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The air quality in Chiang Mai is shit today, and it's probably going to get worse.
https://teakdoor.com/Gallery/albums/u...2/shit_air.jpg
From http://aqmthai.com/
That last indicator (PM10) shows fine particles in the air - basically soot particles upto 10 micrometres in diameter.
Thailand says the safe level is 120. :(
In the UK, the scale is:
low 0 - 49
moderate 50-74
high 75-99
very high >99
Basically, it's the central corridor, but I thought Phrae was OK, but according to that graph it's as shit as Chiang Mai. Glad I live in Udon.
It is awful today. I have never had my eyes burn like they did this morning when I went to the market. Like fire!
I'm staying inside and praying for rain.
Sounds lovely, I'll be there in a couple of weeks...
I've been considering Chiang Mai as a possible retirement spot someday, but the air-quality issue for several months per year is the number one drawback.
yes, don't come here, it is horrid
So it's actually not that bad? I like Chiang Mai a lot, but I've heard many negative reports about the air quality during certain months of the year- is it over-blown?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
As a resident, your actual knowledge of the situation is way more valuable than a sarcastic comment.
some days it is nasty, like today, it makes your eyes water when you go out and your throat sore
I cycled over to the zoo yesterday, just a few km, and one of my eyes was quite red
beach time!
^
My wife has some minor respiratory issues, and I'm worried that she might not be able to handle poor air quality for extended periods of time- I really need to get up there and check it out for myself.
So the 'burning period' is from when to when (generally)?
Around now for a month or two.
This is advice from the UK government on air quality.
Daily Air Quality Index - Defra, UK
https://teakdoor.com/Gallery/albums/u...ity_advice.jpg
low 0 - 49
moderate 50-74
high 75-99
very high >99
Obviously, very high in the UK = normal in Thailand, so make adjustments accordingly. :rolleyes:
yes, my kid gets Bronchitis and even Pneumonia from common colds then exacerbated by the poor airQuote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
in hospital at this very moment
I am not sure the pollution is due to burning at the moment; the situation of CM is a bit like Mexico city in that it is in a "bowl" of mountains, so if you get a stable pressure system sitting on top of it, the air just gets trapped along with the build up of pollutionQuote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
It just baffles me, really, as every time I've been there the place has been just stunning- the air quality was great, no haze in the air- as I said, I'll need to do some proper reconnaissance in a couple of years.
Sorry to hear about your kid- that sucks.
it only happens this time of the year though
she is getting better, so thanks
^^^^ Sorry to hear that Andy hope it's not to bad for your kids, what do you do to minimise the problems, do you have your children wear those masks?, make them stay indoors more on bad days?
Tried to look at the link from benbaa, but could not get much from it since I cant read Thai and determine the location of the measurements.
Any information about good websites publishing air-quality warnings for the whole Chiang Mai area (maybe with English place names) would be appreciated.
not much you can do, except hope it doesn't happen againQuote:
Originally Posted by larvidchr
staying indoors is too boring for her, and she loves school
Red clappers going like the clappers and few more Iranian curry exhausts will waf it all
All of these photos are from March in recent years.
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2012/02/1843.jpg
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2012/02/1845.jpg
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2012/02/1847.jpg
And here's one from July.
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2012/02/1849.jpg
You get the idea.
Here's an even better (and more current) one.
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2012/02/1851.jpg
Hope the youngun gets better soon. Terrible seeing you kids sick...and not too nice for them either.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
All the best.
That's no good Andy.Hope the little one gets better soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
I just looked up and can't see any of those red dotsQuote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
mind you, it is a bit hazy
I spent February and March 1991 in Chiang Mai. It was surprisingly hot and dry (first time in Thailand), but never smoky downtown. Did I just get lucky that year, or did this now regular phenomenon (like the annual flooding) start a bit later?
I don't read Thai either (except for a few letters), but on that website, downtown Chiang Mai has the ID code 35t, so look for that in the left hand column. If you use Google Chrome, it will do a half-arsed "translation" of some bits of the page, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by larvidchr
Still shit according to my info:
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2012/02/2652.jpg
Yes, bluddy awful this month (especially). The past few years have been a lot cleaner - at least where we are. I can only imagine (and probably wrong, too) that this time around there's been that much more that can burn off, after all the rain last year.
The weeds and crap at our piece of mountain land were up to 5 metres high towards the end of last year - never seen it that high (and thick) before. It took ages to cut it all down (and still ain't finished, either).
We were actually expecting not to see much foul air this year - seeing as a lot of locals have gradually stopped burning so much over the last few years. This year seems to have brought an amazing amount of forest fires in our area, so maybe it's more the uncontrolled fires that are making the air foul, rather than than the locals burning their fields - we haven't actually seen that much of field burning, either.
Whatever - hope it disappears very soon - as it will do after a bit of rain.
Ta
not so bad today, there is a nice breeze clearing a lot of it away
On Monday last week it was awful, and incredibly there was some sort of bike race going on up the steep windy road to Doi Suthep. They weren't looking too happy half way up, would be healthier to ride with a mouthful of cigarettes
Finally rain! A nice big storm blew in here this evening. Hope it washed away some of that noxious haze.
^ Yep same here, first rain for a long while
Ditto huge thunder lightening on mekhong Strange as rain is getting earleir each year for last 5 according to the local farmers
It's not just CM, the air in Bangkok hasn't been too great lately. My kid has bronchitis, and I suspect it's the smoky air that is largely to blame. Would like to get him out of here, but the only alternative at present is Tokyo, and I think compared to cesium the Bangkok air is the lesser of two weevils.