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i need some help locating a breeder for German Shepards, would love to have a puppy soon,, in the next 8 weeks before i get home again, i am located near Korat and Burrirum,,any help please???, here is a photo of just what i want,, beautiful dog,,
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Go to the army camp just outside of Pak Chong on the Mittraparp Rd coming from Korat, they have them for sale there..6,000bt a pop..
Really ? wonder if they are good temperament, we looking for another dog for a good watchdog.....but has to be good with kids also.
But would prefer a border collie....seen any BC's ?
A couple words of advice when looking for a purebred dog in Thailand:
1. Ask where the parents came from- contact those breeders (they might be in the States or Europe) to confirm they actually shipped those dogs to Thailand
2. Also confirm the pedigree with the original breeders, and look for ancestors with various titles and certifications- it's also very important to look for hip and eye health clearances- this isn't a guarantee of a 100% healthy dog, but it greatly increases the chances of getting one
3. Don't be in a rush- first pick is very important if you can swing it (even if it's more expensive)- if you have to wait for the next litter to get first pick, wait.
4. DON'T be cheap about the process- you're not going to get a top-quality dog for 6K- expect to pay at least 20K, and possible 50K or more depending on your needs/desires- this dog will be with you for up to 14 years or more- a healthy dog is worth any amount of money compared to one that ma have genetically inbred health or behavioral problems.
Cough cough....crap...excuse me.
We bought a pure bred Jack Russell from the breeder here for 7k and she is a wonderful little dog, top quality in looks and nature. When we went tot eh breeder, this pup was not for sale as they had a female and a male puppy for sale and we only wanted a female. The female they had did not have the nice markings we were looking for and then this other little pup ran out and we asked about her. They said she was their daughters pup and that they were keeping her to show. We asked nicely and they sold her to us and she has turned into a great little dog.
I also had a dog in Oz, Border Collie, for 18 years and she cost an amazing $0 when i got her as a pup and she was an extraordinary dog, would sleep on my motorbike, sit in a helicopter, chase big bad buffalo and swim in crocodile infested waters...oh and surf also.
So, 20k and god forbid...50k for a dog here is outlandish.
I do agree to shop around and wait and do agree to buy from breeders and not JJ market or such.
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You do not get a top-quality dog in Thailand for 7K- it's great that you got a nice dog, but don't tell me what I said is 'crap' because you don't know what you're talking about.
Go to the Thai Kennel Club and get in touch with a few top breeders and see what their puppies go for- if you want the pup of a champion that's properly registered with a real pedigree, you're going to pay for it- 20K-50K is what they go for (I saw one champion Boxer go for 100K).
I spent over a year looking for the best Golden Retriever I could find in Thailand- I flew to a couple different places to check out litters- I wasn't looking for a 'bargain' but rather the best dog out there from a breeding and health perspective (and that's what I got).
I've got no idea about German Shepards in general but there was an article in the NZ Herald the other day about one (Police dog) that bit a toddler. Ironically enough during a 'dog safety' demonstration at a school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nawty
yeah...doubt i would get a GS...hear a lot about them in Oz also.
As for the Kennel club....this dog is registered and has parents that are champions....champions of what i dunno....but they are.....i have her certificate and it is mounted above her pillow where she sleeps.
20k to now a quoted 100k is crap....in this country....not saying that people are not asking those prices, they are, but they are crap and as usual, the Thais are just overcharging for crap as they usually do....same same swimming pool theory.
We called a Thai Border Collie breeder about there pups...they wanted 30k and if we wanted to visit them, we had to pay a 5k non refundable entry fee to their home.....:rofl:....fuck off....crap and a joke and more crap....
You can get quality for cheaper....same same you can get a pool quoted for 1 million baht that you can actually get built for 400k.....crap
Why is it 'crap'? All the top dogs in Thailand came from parents imported from either the States, Canada or Europe (the parents of my Golden came from the States and Canada)- it would cost at least 150K (probably more) to buy and have a breeding pair shipped over here- maybe 15-20 top-quality puppies will be produced from that pair (if that- the females can't be used as 'machines' and need time between litters)- do you think they're going to go for 5K each?
The best Goldens in the States go for 25K-35K (or more)- you have to expect that they will go for around the same here as it takes the same investment of time and money to produce the pups.
If you want the best you have to pay for it, no matter where you live.
I agree that paying a non-refundable 5K to look at a litter is ridiculous- I would avoid that breeder like the plague.
40k for a pure breed is the norm here. The same numbers I was quoted when looking for Boxer & Dobermans.
Was quoted 20k for a Husky though. Got brilliant blue eyes.
Just because it costs more over there does not mean it should cost the same here.
A top quality hooker in oz will cost you 20k....you can get the same or better here for longer time periods for a quarter of that....same same but different.
What does TH.CH and INT.TH.CH stand for in front of the names of dogs on a thai kennel club reg certificate ?
Guy by my wifes folks place breeds them. He's got this great set-up with air-conditioned pens and a huge run for them to play in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelmate
Actually it was so nice I felt vaugely jealous of them. :)
Specious argument- we're not talking about a 'service'- we're talking about a product- if you pay 50K for something from your home country, will you sell it for 10K in Thailand? Of course not- you're going to sell it at a profit if possible, just like with any other business- cars would be a much better comparison- a friggin' '09 Ford Mustang goes for 3.6mil in Thailand (saw it in the Bangkok Post)- it's less than 1mil in the States.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nawty
'CH' means 'champion'- I would guess TH is Thailand and INT is international.
Don't believe everything you see on a Thai pedigree unless you've personally looked into it- fake ones abound, and often duplicates are used for several puppies, even if they're not from the same litter.
So this little 7k dog has both parents as thai champions, all 4 grandparents as Int Thai Champions and 5 of the 8 great grand parents as Thai champions.
Missus called the kennel club to check on the registration after we bought her and is all correct.
now, whether this dog would also become a champion, i have no idea as I am not interested in that crap. But seeing as the breeders were keeping her for their own and to show, quite possible.
And all for 7k.....I thought 7k was expensive for a dog at the time.....especially a little dog....I mean she was not even a kilo in weight. Better value for a golden retriever though.
All i am saying besides the 40/50k price tags as being crap....is that you can look around and not get a ripoff priced hoity toity dog of comparable quality.
Our valuable and prized 7k....but now possibly worth 50k.....dog can bite the end of a rope and hang on for dear life as we swing her around in circles.....awesome little dog.....for 7 k......and pedigreed....and from champions upon champions lines of jack Russell.
Nasty little dogs they are!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nawty
Friend had one. Tried to rip my face off! Damn near tore my thumb. Tried to give it a mighty kick for the oversized rat to end up jaws clamped to my boot!
Needed a tetanus injection.
Mate said never happened before. Yeah right!
Paid him a visit with my German Shepard the following week. Needless to say the Jack shit Russel got put down. Apparently attacked a kid.
****FOR SALE****
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Going cheap [at] 50,000 baht.....yes...that's correct a bargain basement 50k for a little chapion upon champion dog.....parenst champions...grandparents international champions....great grand parents champions.
or will swap for Border Collie.....or one of these...
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See...awesome intelligent dogsQuote:
Originally Posted by Travelmate
Summat to look out for on my rides thru Khao Yai. :)
I wouldn't say what you said Failsafe was crap - as they are quite legitimate points. However, I don't see the need to pay big bucks for a top of the line show dog when all you want to do is have it in the yard as a pet or a deterrent to any uninvited guests. In fact, it would be a shame to do so.
Now I'm a fan of purebreds and a big fan of GSD. The GSD I bought in Thailand was 5k baht from a local breeder and I was able to see both parents. The price I thought was fair enough for a purebred bitch that was never going to see the inside of a show ring or likely to be bred. That price was without "papers" but what the hell did I want with them anyway.
cjustice - I'm not sure your plan to buy a GSD puppy and then leave is such a good idea. You average thai can't deal with them and an undisciplined GSD could mean problems while you are away. Mine got to 11months before I left and next time I'm back I'll have to correct a couple of bad habits that have developed in my absence.
I want a blue heeler.
I didn't say you had to spend top-dollar to get a nice dog- my other dog is a mutt I got for free and she's a great companion- if you want the best, though, you have to pay for it, even in Thailand.
Nawty is just having fun displaying his ignorance on the subject, but he's entitiled to his opinion.
The only thing I find unusual about that is the fact that "Jack Russell Terriers" aren't recognized as a breed by the Thai Kennel Club (though there is a separate club devoted to them) and I don't believe there could be any legitmate pedigree for one- the closet thing is a "Parson Russell Terrier".Quote:
Originally Posted by Nawty
I edited this to state that I found conflicting info, so maybe it is recognized- the English section of the Thai Kennel Club website is down so I can't check for sure.
If they aren't recognized, though, that would certainly explain why they are cheaper than other dogs that are actually recognized (and it's certainly possible you got an excellent deal- that doesn't determine actual value, though- perhaps the dog you have is worth 15K-20K).
Wanna buy it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
JJ...I would love a red healer also...wanna get a coupla healers and a coupla border collies sent over ?
Yes.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Nawty
But I only need one.
Unless you're thinking of breeding........ I might take a pair.
I reckon they'd go good in LOS.
What about Kelpies ?
yeah kelpies as well......3 awesome dogs and yes i would breed them....then we can sell em for 20/50k each.
Get a pair each and then we can swap the males around for a month or so to do their thing and we can swap some pups to get fresh blood in each pride.