With this being ANZAC Day and all, but with no disrepect to those that died, take the following quiz to see how you would fare in these circunstances.
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With this being ANZAC Day and all, but with no disrepect to those that died, take the following quiz to see how you would fare in these circunstances.
ralph.ninemsn.com.au/quiz.aspx?quizid=4953
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Nah ! can't be bothered - but I deeply appreciate the sacrifices that the ANZAC troops made in both world wars.
RIP
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^ Me, too. Those troops were feked by the Brits...
Everone gets fucked by the Brits {...and the Seppos} at one point or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
was not the gollipoli fiasco, churchills fuck up?
would have been brilliant if it had worked out.
A needless and terrible sacrifice at the end of the day
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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
yes and no.Quote:
Originally Posted by nedwalk
I think the whole Brits incompetence thing has been mythologised a little too much.
I think you will find it was the TurksQuote:
Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
The concept of the Galliopli campaign was brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingwilly
The implementation of of it was abysmal.
Non existant and/ inadequate maps of the area
Unsuitable landing ships
No preplanned re-supply backup
Dissent amongst Army commanders
Etc Etc Etc
I spent a couple of weeks in/on the Galipolli battlefield in the 70's driving a CAT excavator for a historical research group.
The guys that died in these wars - which ANZAC recognizes,Quote:
Originally Posted by noelbino
were poking they're noses in other people's business.
ANZAC day is over-rated, but worth remembering.
In those days patriotism led everyone by the nose.
The Australians and Kiwis got all the glory at Gallipoli but it seems to be forgotten that twice as many Brits died there as the combined Anzac force.
I was there in '98, incredible atmosphere when you grew up with the legend of Anzac.
Without wishing to minimise the significance of those who are prepared to risk injury and death fighting in whichever conflict embroils them, I do find this obssession with commemorating old wars somewhat futile and at best legitimises glorious sacrifice when the opposite is in fact often the case.
Time to let go of all that useless baggage and in any case remembering " lest we forget " presupposes one can learn from history which is of course utter nonsense. By all means wallow in sentiment if you think it somehow chastening but really it doesn't matter a jot, least of all to those rotting in the ground.
It seems that your wish is rapidly coming true, all the WW1 guys are gone and my Dad is one of the last of the WW2 vets and he's nearly 90.
I think that will be the end of it, I can't see any wars since then attracting a big following of commemorators.
Gallipoli was a mistake, that likely wasn't realized when the went there.Quote:
Originally Posted by beano
They went there.
They should not have. Oz and NZ are not very close to Gallipoli, are they?
As usual, those that went, were likely puppets.
Soldiers doing what they thought was their duty for King and country.
Thanks for your pointless contribution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milkman
I think 4th of July and Thanksgiving days are overrated also. I dont bother telling you that though, do i?
Gallipoli itself was not a mistake, the execution of the campaign however, was a series of mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milkman
Anzac Day to me is my old Dad standing in the rain at 6am as the sun comes up, wearing his medals and remembering his mates that died in North Africa, the Middle East and Italy.
For a lot of people in Australia it's just a day off.
I'm not trying to be flippant, not disrespectful.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingwilly
I have just come to believe that so many of the wars that have involved to much mutilation, permanent disability, and death were unnecesarry.
(Crimean war is one of many examples.)
We should remember the foolishness of the leaders and nation-states and the foolishness of nationlism, IMO.
Not the people that went there - as they were all a part of it.
I totally agree.Quote:
I think 4th of July and Thanksgiving days are overrated also.
That's your decision. I don't care.Quote:
I dont bother telling you that though, do i?
ok then, fair enough, but i think you are missing the point of anzac day thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Milkman
A very large part of ANZAC day is not about glorifying war, but sending a message of remembrance, thankfulness, and respect.
i,m happy to report beano, that i was more than impressed by the turn out here at the dawn service, for a country town per capita i reckon it was huge, and more so the young faces in the crowd,and although the numbers and ranks are thinning, the nrxt generation were marching proudly, i grew up seeing the poor old buggers who were gassed on flanders field march so proudly to be replaced by the brave soles who did the kokada trail [my unkles] and now the poor buggers on 'peace' keeping duties includeing my brother in law,
yep for most it is just a day off, but there as many remembering what the day off is all about
Exactly my point KW (post # 10)Quote:
Originally Posted by kingwilly
My dad was always heavily involved in the RSL and Anzac day was the big day of the year. He almost single handedly ran a footy "lightening premiership" to raise money for the widows and servicemen of returned soldiers for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by nedwalk
He lives in the city now, but he'd have been there today at the dawn service. He was never a man for the main march, doesn't like the drinking afterwards.
Funny, when I was 20 the government put all our birth dates in a barrel and if your birthday came out it was Nasho and off to Vietnam for you. I suppose missing out on that was my once in a lifetime lottery win.