China's first Hualong One nuclear reactor starts commercial operation

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31-01-2021, 02:29 AM
David48atTD

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BEIJING (Reuters) - China National Nuclear Corp said the first of its Hualong One units, third-generation pressurised water nuclear reactors, began commercial operations on Saturday.

The reactor in Fuqing in China’s southeastern province of Fujian was first connected to the grid on Nov. 27 last year, following more than five years of construction work.

“This marks that China has mastered independent third-generation nuclear power technology following the United States, France, Russia and others,” the company said in a statement on its official WeChat account.

The Hualong One units, designed to have a 60-year lifespan, have an installed capacity of 1.161 million kilowatts each, CNNC said.

China'''s first Hualong One nuclear reactor starts commercial operation | Reuters

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China's First Third-generation Nuclear Reactor Put into Operation - YouTube
31-01-2021, 02:32 AM
David48atTD

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31-01-2021, 02:35 AM
strigils

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Fuqing

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31-01-2021, 02:39 AM
strigils

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Originally Posted by David48atTD

The reactor in Fuqing in China’s southeastern province of Fujian was first connected to the grid on Nov. 27 last year, following more than five years of construction work.

so that is the first Fuqing reactor? :)

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31-01-2021, 02:42 AM
strigils

Oh...
31-01-2021, 02:45 AM
strigils

where is .. OhOh i want his explanation of Xi's personal selection of the site name. Just pure genius. :) i wasted a half a mouth full of Fitou on that not to mention some carpet magic.
31-01-2021, 04:00 AM
Backspin

Good work China. Nuclear energy has zero carbon emissions. But watch the neo Mathusians protest it anyway. Because they dont actually care about the environment
31-01-2021, 11:51 AM
harrybarracuda

Given the chinky reputation for build quality, I would imagine neighbouring governments have paid particular attention to wind patterns in the area...
31-01-2021, 01:10 PM
Klondyke

Harry never disappoints.

Perhaps if he dares to google about the building activities within 30 years in China - there are astonishing figures - and within 30 years in (please no names here) - I do not dare to place here an official link, waste of time, it goes lost within minutes...

Of course the quality of the construction is different as per Harry's criteria, but don't dare to google the critical situation of the zillions of bridges in (please no names here) ...
31-01-2021, 01:12 PM
Neverna

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Originally Posted by Backspin

Good work China. Nuclear energy has zero carbon emissions.

With regard to the production of electricity from nuclear fission, that's not exactly correct, Backspin. It depends on the exact technology used.
31-01-2021, 04:11 PM
harrybarracuda

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With regard to the production of electricity from nuclear fission, that's not exactly correct, Backspin. It depends on the exact technology used.

Although...

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if the fuel of a heavy-water reactor is changed frequently, significant amounts of weapons-grade plutonium can be chemically extracted from the irradiated natural uranium fuel by nuclear reprocessing.
31-01-2021, 04:58 PM
Listerman

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Although...

But if you are refering to this latest Chinese reactor that is not correct as PWR's do not use heavy water. However as the Americans clandestinely showed commercial PWR's were modified for Tritium production (another Nuclear warhead ingredient).

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Given the chinky reputation for build quality, I would imagine neighbouring governments have paid particular attention to wind patterns in the area...

If that is so, would you care to extrapolate why the British Government (and by extension the NII Nuclear Installation inspectorate) is allowing them and EDF to build Hinkley point C
31-01-2021, 04:59 PM
Neverna

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Although...if the fuel of a heavy-water reactor is changed frequently, significant amounts of weapons-grade plutonium can be chemically extracted from the irradiated natural uranium fuel by nuclear reprocessing.

Although...a pressurised water reactor is a type of light-water nuclear reactor.

But with China already having nuclear weapons and another 40 odd nuclear reactors, I'm not worried about China obtaining more weapons-grade plutonium.
31-01-2021, 05:02 PM
Neverna

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However as the Americans clandestinely showed commercial PWR's were modified for Tritium production (another Nuclear warhead ingredient).

As were magnox reactors in the UK.
31-01-2021, 05:02 PM
sabang

Would advise we don't let China steal the march in nuclear technology, which is likely to proliferate in coming years as a way to reduce carbon emissions.
Last I knew, France lead the world in the percentage of it's energy generated by nuclear.
31-01-2021, 05:03 PM
Listerman

Duplicate post
31-01-2021, 05:07 PM
Listerman

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Originally Posted by Neverna

As were magnox reactors in the UK.

Indeed, and in addition the burn up time of the fuel rods was also reduced to maximise Pu239 content.
31-01-2021, 05:53 PM
OhOh

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Originally Posted by strigils

Xi's personal selection of the site name.

"Fuqing is a county-level city of Fujian Province, China, it is under the administration of the prefecture-level city of Fuzhou"

Fuqing - Wikipedia

"Fuzhou was one of the first places in Fujian to be settled. At the beginning of the 2nd century bce,"

Fuzhou | China | Britannica

Been there for millennia.
31-01-2021, 07:09 PM
harrybarracuda

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Originally Posted by Listerman

But if you are refering to this latest Chinese reactor that is not correct as PWR's do not use heavy water. However as the Americans clandestinely showed commercial PWR's were modified for Tritium production (another Nuclear warhead ingredient).

If that is so, would you care to extrapolate why the British Government (and by extension the NII Nuclear Installation inspectorate) is allowing them and EDF to build Hinkley point C

A lot of people are asking exactly the same fucking question!
31-01-2021, 07:10 PM
harrybarracuda

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Would advise we don't let Chinastan steal nuclear technology

FTFY, although it's too late.
31-01-2021, 10:34 PM
Listerman

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A lot of people are asking exactly the same fucking question!

But you are missing the point, if Chinese technology is good enough for HMG and its regulator. Perhaps you could allude to why you consider it to not be the case.

There was a time when the UK was a world leader in nuclear reactor design, for example at AERE Windfrith, there was for a time the largest concentration of experimental nuclear reactors in the world

Winfrith - Wikipedia

But as the British government in their wisdom cut the research budgets, the Chinese have obviously continued developments in reactor design, to get where they are today.
31-01-2021, 11:30 PM
harrybarracuda

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But you are missing the point, if Chinese technology is good enough for HMG and its regulator. Perhaps you could allude to why you consider it to not be the case.

Because the Chinese copy everything; they have no history of creating, breaking, learning. So if these things go wrong because they've fucked something up, they have no experience of unfucking it. It's why I would never fly on a fucking Comac either. I wouldn't have gone for a Chinese design in a million fucking years. Or maybe I would after a million fucking years.

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There was a time when the UK was a world leader in nuclear reactor design, for example at AERE Windfrith, there was for a time the largest concentration of experimental nuclear reactors in the world

Except most of the technology for Winfrith came from Harwell, somewhere I know well having stood on the top of DIDO (I used to work next door at Rutherford).
01-02-2021, 03:28 PM
Shutree

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Fujian

Been there for millennia.

The place has been there for ever, the name I think is about 1,000 years old. Without looking it up, I remember someone telling me a story about how it got its name.

The joke works much better using the old Romanisation, Fukien.

The Fukienese migrated far down the coast and there are many in HK and Macau and Vietnam and, of course, Taiwan who identify their ancestral villages as being in Fukien. I have heard English speaking Cantonese people talk of 'the Fukien Chinese' and 'he went to a Fukien university', pun intended.
01-02-2021, 05:12 PM
harrybarracuda

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Originally Posted by Shutree

The place has been there for ever, the name I think is about 1,000 years old. Without looking it up, I remember someone telling me a story about how it got its name.

The joke works much better using the old Romanisation, Fukien.

The Fukienese migrated far down the coast and there are many in HK and Macau and Vietnam and, of course, Taiwan who identify their ancestral villages as being in Fukien. I have heard English speaking Cantonese people talk of 'the Fukien Chinese' and 'he went to a Fukien university', pun intended.

It sounds too close to "Fukushima" for comfort...

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