Thailand: Police revolt against transfers to far South

Police revolt against transfers to far South | Bangkok Post: news

Police revolt against transfers to far South

• Published: 27/12/2012 at 05:11 PM
• Online news: Local News

The police chief has pleaded for cooperation from investigators who are refusing to put their names in the draw for random transfer to vacant positions in the restive far South.

Pol Gen Adul Saengsingkaew commented on the police investigators' refusal to take part in the draw for assignments in the southernmost provinces on Thursday.

He said the region needs more than 100 officers, but only about 30 had volunteered for assignment there.

While it was quite normal for officers not to want to be away from their families, they should put the country's needs ahead of themselves. The police chief said that he had been assigned to the South for three years as a more junior officer.

Investigators, a position in most police stations, have submitted a letter to the police chief, questioning the policy to select 150 detectives from the pool of more than 6,000 officers to be posted in the South, based on a random drawing. The drawing has been scheduled for Jan 7.

Pol Lt Col Kaisaeng Tawilwong, who represents the discontented investigators, said they were not protesting against being transferred to the South, but against the selection process. Most of the officers whose names would be drawn were 40-50 years old with tremendous family responsibilities.

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Pol Lt Col Kaisaeng: Better selection process is needed to transfer police officers to the South. Photo by Somchai Poomlard.

He also asked why the ballot concernedonly investigators while officers ranked at the superintendent level have to be assigned to the region.

As the upset officers have now exhausted all options to plead with their superiors, it is possible they will ask the Administrative Court to issue a temporary injunction to suspend the draw, he said.

The prospect of assignment to southern provinces has caused concern among police officers' families, given news reports of almost daily attacks in the deep south in the provinces of Yala, Narathiwat, Pattani and Songkhla.

The security forces were on Wednesday put on full alert in Hat Yai district of Songkhla province and pictures of four insurgents distributed to law enforcement agencies as part of precautions against possible violence during the New Year festivities.

The four insurgents were identified as Wankhoyari Sarayoraseh, 25, Abdulhalem Jehkhu, 25, Paming Jehkhae, 30, and Muhamad Mudolasae, 27, all of Narathiwat province.

The reports said intelligence units had warned security forces the men might try to sneak into towns during the New Year festival to set bombs.

In response to the warning, combined forces of military, police and defence volunteers have set up checkpoints on routes leading to Hat Yai.

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The days of up and over the trenches are long gone , it's everyman for theselves now , self preservation is the order of the day , I'm staying home fook you , :)

The Bf of my friend's daughter has chosen to go, he sees it as a fastrack.
Better money and a quicker promotion path.

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The days of up and over the trenches are long gone , it's everyman for theselves now , self preservation is the order of the day , I'm staying home fook you , :)

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Even better, why don't call the whole thing as it applies to the restive south.

Rubbing salt into the wounds.

Can we petition to send Officer Duangchalerm? He's a great shot at close range and he has experience killing at least one person. Plus it would make his father look like a better politician putting his own blood before the blood of the weak which is what usually happens in Corrupt Ol' Thailand.

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The Bf of my friend's daughter has chosen to go, he sees it as a fastrack.
Better money and a quicker promotion path.

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The southern violence will never end , there is easier ways of making money rather than putting your one and only life on the line , promotion in the south is a free run to your local temple , one way , :)

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The Bf of my friend's daughter has chosen to go, he sees it as a fastrack.
Better money and a quicker promotion path.

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The southern violence will never end , there is easier ways of making money rather than putting your one and only life on the line , promotion in the south is a free run to your local temple , one way , :)

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It might end, if Thai instigation and intervention would cease.

The cause and effect derives from Bangkok.....[not them]

Has been for 100 + years.

Why go, no tea money to be had there!

Serving in South national duty: police chief - The Nation

Serving in South national duty: police chief

The Nation December 28, 2012 1:00 am

The National Police chief said yesterday that while it was understandable some police investigators were not happy with the system of random selection for deployment in the deep South, they should view the task as serving the country.

Police Commissioner Pol General Adul Saengsingkaew said he had worked in the deep South for more than three years and had never complained.

He was responding to reports that some police investigators would be filing complaints with the Police Commission against the policy of drawing lots to deploy investigators to the three deep South provinces of Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat. The complainants have alleged that the policy is discriminatory and unfair, as it covers 600 investigators only and not other positions.

They threatened to forward the complaint to the Administrative Court if the Royal Thai Police refused to listen.

"Our fellow investigators should consider that by working the in South, they are working and making sacrifices for the country. I understand that they would not be happy because they have to work far from home. They possibly have problems," he said.

The draw, which takes place on January 7, is being held as only 30 investigators have put their names forward for the 100 available positions in the South.

Asked if he would take action against the investigators making complaints, Adul said he had just received the reports and would look into it at a later date.

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South post lottery draw upsets cops | Bangkok Post: news

South post lottery draw upsets cops

4,000 names go in hat for jobs no one wants

• Published: 28/12/2012 at 12:00 AM
• Newspaper section: News

A group of specialist police investigators are protesting against a lottery system which could result in them being transferred to the far South.

Pol Lt Col Khaisaeng Thawilwong, representing 76 officers from Provincial Police Region 4 who oppose the plan, yesterday submitted a letter to the Royal Thai Police headquarters in Bangkok, asking it to review the order for investigators to enter their names into the random draw.

National police chief Pol Gen Adul Saengsingkaew plans to select officers at random from a pool of about 4,000 specialist investigators nationwide and send them to fill vacant postings in the restive South.

The draw has been scheduled for Jan 7.

Pol Lt Col Khaisaeng, who is currently posted in Khon Kaen province, said the group of officers was not protesting against being transferred to the South, but rather against the random selection process.

Most of the officers whose names would be drawn were 40-50 years old with family responsibilities, he said.

With the protest letter handed over yesterday representing the last avenue of appeal against the move to their superiors, Pol Lt Col Khaisaeng said the officers would now consider asking the Administrative Court to issue a temporary injunction to suspend the draw if their demands were not addressed.

The prospect of assignment to the southern provinces has caused anguish among police officers' families, given news reports of the near-daily attacks in Yala, Narathiwat, Pattani and Songkhla, he said.

According to the Southern Border Provinces Police Operation Centre, at least 280 police officers were killed and nearly 1,200 injured in the far South between 2004 and 2011.

Pol Gen Adul has pleaded for cooperation from investigators who are refusing to put their names in the draw, but has refused to reconsider the order.

The police chief said the region still needs about 150 specialist investigators, but only about 30 had volunteered for assignment there.

He said if they refuse to take part in the draw voluntarily, they may be forced to do so.

While he acknowledged it was normal for officers not to want to be away from their families, they should put the country's needs ahead of their own, he said.

The police chief said he had been assigned to the South for three years as a junior officer and had never complained.

Pol Gen Adul said he had asked Provincial Police Region 4 to investigate whether the officers had violated the police code of conduct.

According to the Deep South Watch, a Pattani-based research body focusing on the southern violence, about 17,000 police officers are stationed in the far South.

Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung, who oversees the police force, yesterday slammed the protesting officers for lacking discipline.

Mr Chalerm said officers are duty-bound to act on the orders of their superiors.

Police officers deployed to the South are entitled to more welfare benefits than those stationed elsewhere, he said.

"If you are unhappy, you should quit. The 76 officers should face a disciplinary investigation," Mr Chalerm said.

The deputy PM also said he will visit Malaysia from Jan 8-10 to hold talks with Malaysian authorities.

He declined to specify what topics will be discussed, but said the situation in the far South would improve after the talks.

Transfer to the South!

They didn't pay the 300,000 baht entrance exam fee for that!

bit like the thai version of the russian front, those caught taking bribes,not putting there country before themselves (mentioned in the report) not upholding the high ideals of the force, should be sent to the front.

^Agreed. Send all the feckless idle scammers and defaulters to the south as a punishment posting.

Before you comment Jeff you can fuck off too.

The police are revolting ? Hardly news.

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The police are revolting ? Hardly news.

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The whole policing system need to review and appraise itself.

Amounts to nothing short of a well designed criminal organisation.

Revolting internally. Heh...

The people should take the rebellious side.

It's not the police that should be sent down to the south to resolve the unrest , it's the bargirls that should be sent down to appease the rebels , well it would keep them happy for short time and a few long timers thrown in , :)

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It's not the police that should be sent down to the south to resolve the unrest , it's the bargirls that should be sent down to appease the rebels , well it would keep them happy for short time and a few long timers thrown in , :)

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Still is quite the industry down deep south....
Servicing the "good" Islamic Malays that regularly border-cross.