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    This is you BB, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Non of what you are saying is true.
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    Really? It would seem that even the ultra cautious Centre for Disease Control agrees with me (walk, run or bike outdoors, no mask recommended for both vaccinated and unvaccinated people):

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    You're not in danger from walking down the street or being sat on the beach without a mask on.
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    ...an infographic from the CDC...just common sense...
    You need to get a grip of yourself, BB, because it sounds like the fear has totally gripped you and you're on the verge of losing the plot about getting what is, for most people, a bit of a sniffle. Pull yourself together and do a bit of reading on the subject beyond what you're told by the organs of project fear.
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    What, you're saying that graphic supports your comment on...


    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    The absurdity of wearing a mask outdoors.



    You're almost as wrong on this as you invariably are on football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    What, you're saying that graphic supports your comment on...







    You're almost as wrong on this as you invariably are on football.
    It's pretty obvious what it says.

    Has Covid affected your ability to read and think straight too? Bloody ell, it's some disease, this.

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    The graphic mentions two out of five outdoor scenarios when a mask isn't needed.

    That doesn't highlight 'the absurdity of wearing a mask outdoors'.

    Are you wearing yours over your fucking eyes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post


    The graphic mentions two out of five outdoor scenarios when a mask isn't needed.

    That doesn't 'highlight the absurdity of wearing a mask outdoors'.

    Are you wearing yours over your fucking eyes?
    ...Situations which I highlighted in my replies, if you had shown the ability to read, because it could be argued that attending a small gathering with friends/eating outside is actually a fairly enclosed spaced (see the BBC article about standing at bus stops, being in outdoor markets etc).

    I'd try highlighting these things in crayons for you Covid crazies next time, if I could...

    And, to set the record straight, because I have to, I follow the rules where I am and wear a mask outside when I'm walking down the street. Even though it's fucking horrible and ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Obsessively Compulsive Anxiety Syndrome.
    Much more of a detriment to one's well being.
    Quite, Jeff. The panic, anxiety and other restrictions are worse for most people's health than the disease itself. Even Cy has become a Covid zombie and is now showing signs of mental malfunction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    You're almost as wrong on this as you invariably are on football.
    A low blow

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    So the Thai Provicial Governer is passing enforceable "RULES" that it's citizens, foreign citizens in Thailand and foreign LTR's in Thailand have to obey.

    Are Third World countries allowed to make "RULES"?

    Where is Liz's/BBC's video where she states her governments laws are subservient to a Third World provincial "RULES".

    Bojo is awaiting the Trans Atlantic mail boat to see the latest "RULES" from The Department of State spokeswoman before he instructs all embassy staff to evacuate by RAF bombers.

    Daily Mail headline:

    Locals are getting uppity.

    Gunboats Leave Portsmouth for the Cambodian Gulf.

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    he Three Remaining UNSC Members Russia, China and India Call For Calm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    The panic, anxiety and other restrictions are worse for most people's health than the disease itself.
    Again, not true.

    Ask the people dying in queues outside Indian hopsitals which is worse.

    It doesnt get much more permanent that dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    It's pretty obvious what it says.

    Has Covid affected your ability to read and think straight too? Bloody ell, it's some disease, this.
    So you are going to be one of the problem farangs that gives us a bad name by not following the rules of the land ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Again, not true.

    Ask the people dying in queues outside Indian hopsitals which is worse.

    It doesnt get much more permanent that dying.
    Fact: most people aren't gonna be affected by the disease as they are asymptomatic or get little more than a sniffle. It kills less than 1% of people, most of whom are either sick and/or old, and Covid has hastened their unfortunate demise. For a slightly larger number, they'll get sick for a couple of weeks, but will recover at home. A slighty smaller number will require hospital support but will again recover.

    Fact: for people who have been locked down and been subjected to the fear-mongering about a bug that a 74 year old overweight Donald Trump took 3 days to recover from, they've seen their mental health suffer, businesses collapse and other illnesses go undiagnosed. Often because they were too scared to expose themselves to the virus by going to the docs.

    I deal in facts, not fear. You're extremely unlikely to die from this and there's a solid argument for the measures we've been subjected to, and the constant fear-mongering, being worse than the actual illness itself.

    We need to get a sense of perspective here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    So you are going to be one of the problem farangs that gives us a bad name by not following the rules of the land ?
    Shut up, dickhead, and learn to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Again, not true.

    Ask the people dying in queues outside Indian hopsitals which is worse.

    It doesnt get much more permanent that dying.
    A little bit of context here for you about the situation in India as well:

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    The mainstream media’s reporting on the ‘COVID crisis’ in India has clearly been governed by a global approach to messaging that appears to aim at ramping up fear of ‘new variants’ and coerce compliance to vaccination during a period of increasing resistance, both in India and abroad. However, as somebody who lived in India for 8 years in total until December 2019, and as the fundraiser for a food bank in Bihar that has been alleviating the hunger caused by lockdowns
    [1], I have daily contact with people in India as well as some context for the figures being presented amidst the ongoing alarm.
    Firstly, the media are presenting cases and deaths in whole numbers that sound horrendous until you convert them to percentages of India’s huge population of 1.4 billion people. The current daily death rate in India of 2,600 is equivalent to 126 deaths per day in the UK, way below our peak rate and closer to what we are experiencing now. See the graph produced by JHU below to understand the context
    [2].
    Secondly, even as the alleged COVID deaths reach their peak more people die of diarrhoea every day in India and have done for years, mostly due to a lack of clean water and sanitation creating a terrain ripe for the flourishing of communicable disease
    [3].
    Thirdly, Delhi, the focus of the media’s messaging, and the source of many of the media’s horrifying scenes of suffering, has the most toxic air in the world which often leads to the city having to close down due to the widespread effects on respiratory health [
    4, 5, 6]. This even led to Sonia Gandhi and her son Rahul having to flee the city in November 2020 until the air quality improved [7].
    Fourth, high stake assembly elections are going on in some of India’s biggest states at present [
    8]. Delhi’s toxic air has been a political football for years that neither dominant party addresses directly, preferring to call on individuals’ collective efforts to tackle the problem. Therefore, blaming the soaring respiratory problems that require oxygen on a COVID surge skilfully diverts attention from the ongoing political neglect of this urgent public health issue.
    Fifth, respiratory diseases including COPD, TB, and respiratory tract infections like bronchitis leading to pneumonia are always among the top ten killers in India [
    3]. These conditions are severely aggravated by air pollution and often require oxygen which can be in short supply during air pollution crises. Delhi even saw its first oxygen bar open in 2019, where wealthier residents can pay for a 15-minute blast of oxygen during toxic periods [9].
    Finally, the Indian government’s focus on vaccine procurement risks diverting resources from tackling urgent public health issues including access to clean water, sanitation, clean air, and treatments for other communicable diseases. An article in the British Medical Journal reported on disrupted access to TB vaccinations due to lockdowns [
    10], with TB known to cause around 1.4 million deaths in the country annually.
    According to my contacts on the ground, people in Delhi are suffering from untreated respiratory and lung conditions that are now becoming serious. I’ve also had breathing problems there when perfectly healthy and started to mask up to keep the particulate matter out of my lungs. I used to suffer from serious chest infections twice yearly during the big changes in weather in India, usually November/December and April/May. When I reluctantly masked up that stopped. My contacts have reported that the usual seasonal bronchial infections have not been properly treated by doctors afraid of getting COVID, and due to people’s avoidance of government hospitals out of fear of getting COVID. Undoubtedly, these fears will have been fuelled by the media’s alarmist coverage of the situation. Consequently, the lack of early intervention means many respiratory conditions have developed life-threatening complications. Also, people from surrounding rural areas often travel to Delhi for treatment as it has the best healthcare facilities and people can go there for a few rupees by train. This puts pressure on Dehli’s healthcare system during respiratory virus seasons.
    Until now, my contacts report that vaccine take-up among the working classes and other minority groups has been low due to widespread mistrust of government-funded vaccination camps. In the context of successive governments’ neglect of other longstanding public health problems that disproportionately affect India’s working class, the rolling news coverage of COVID and lockdowns are perceived as attempts to coerce vaccination compliance. Also, many perceive COVID as a disease more likely to affect the wealthy living in gated urban environments with air conditioning; therefore, a reluctance to comply endures. Vaccination is now being promoted over cheap early treatments that were previously widely available, and while vaccine take-up has increased, so have deaths concordantly as displayed in the graphic from John Hopkins University below [
    11]. While correlation does not equal causation, most people I have spoken to do not believe this is merely a coincidence. Given the widespread availability of the data online, and anecdotal reports of adverse reactions and deaths, suspicions of the vaccination campaign remain.
    When we consider the current media coverage of India’s alleged COVID crisis in the context of the multiple factors presented above, clearly people’s concerns are not unfounded, and all is not what it seems.
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    India’s Current ‘COVID Crisis’ in Context - Left Lockdown Sceptics

    I certainly don't agree with everything on that site. I'm pro-vaccine, pro-lockdown (in most cases) and see the benefits of wearing a mask in confined spaces when combined with social distancing and regular hand-washing.

    That article is an informative read though (relatively low death rates compared to what other countries have experienced and a country already with some of the worst respiratory illness numbers in the world) and digs deeper than the usual suspects' pictures of funeral pyres and an imminent apocalypse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Shut up, dickhead, and learn to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Fact: most people aren't gonna be affected by the disease as they are asymptomatic or get little more than a sniffle. It kills less than 1% of people, most of whom are either sick and/or old, and Covid has hastened their unfortunate demise. For a slightly larger number, they'll get sick for a couple of weeks, but will recover at home. A slighty smaller number will require hospital support but will again recover.

    Fact: for people who have been locked down and been subjected to the fear-mongering about a bug that a 74 year old overweight Donald Trump took 3 days to recover from, they've seen their mental health suffer, businesses collapse and other illnesses go undiagnosed. Often because they were too scared to expose themselves to the virus by going to the docs.

    I deal in facts, not fear. You're extremely unlikely to die from this and there's a solid argument for the measures we've been subjected to, and the constant fear-mongering, being worse than the actual illness itself.

    We need to get a sense of perspective here.
    Trump & Boris had the best medical care and or got lucky, two or three of my friends died from this, one of whom was in perfect health, with excellent medical coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Trump & Boris had the best medical care and or got lucky, two or three of my friends died from this, one of whom was in perfect health, with excellent medical coverage.
    Condolences regarding your friends. It's extremely unlikely you're gonna be severely affected if you're in reasonable health although there are obviously very rare cases when the worst happens to people who we wouldn't expect it to (I too had a friend of a friend who ran marathons in his mid-50s who died).

    However, Bo Jo and Trump got lucky? Trump was out in 3 days and over 99% of people who recover are just getting lucky as well?

    Jesus Christ, KW. Stop scaring yourself senseless.

    This is from the UK's chief scare-mongers (Bo Jo and his Chief Scientific Adviser) on the Kent variant:

    "Previous work suggests the new variant spreads between 30% and 70% faster than others, and there are hints it is about 30% more deadly. For example, with 1,000 60-year-olds infected with the old variant, 10 of them might be expected to die. But this rises to about 13 with the new variant. This difference is found when looking at everyone testing positive for Covid, but analysing only hospital data has found no increase in the death rate. Hospital care has improved over the course of the pandemic as doctors get better at treating the disease."

    Ten people out of 1,000 over 60 year-olds may have been expected to die, but the Kent variant might mean 13 would perish. That's 13 out of 1000 people that might die. For younger people it's even less.

    The facts are out there and we need to stop this unnecessary panic: the mortality rates are low, hospital care is better as we know much more than we did a year ago and the vaccines are working. This constant fear is not doing any of us any good.
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    Remember back when deeks was the idiot for living in the mask freedom zone.
    Same same is an English phrase that even Thais understand. This bullshit won't be over until 60-70% of the population have had it or been vaxxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    two or three of my friends died from this, one of whom was in perfect health
    All fuckassery asside, Sorry, You may not want to hear this, a nurse in the US was trying to warn people that once they get that ventilator into people they tend not to survive, the hospitals didn't care because they made 17,000 per patient, it was all about turnover. obviously her social media is all cancelled and she lost her job.
    Again, sorry.

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    what is it about masks that get panties so twisted ?

    is it anxiety attacks ? masculinity impinged ? deep recalcitrance ?

    cotton surgical masks are easy as fcuk to wear and you can even buy fancy ones to match your handbag if you are afraid of colour mis coordination

    half the world seems to be suffering from abject insecurity and spending so many hours to justify their lunacy and most people look at them saying WTF ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    A little bit of context here for you about the situation in India as well:
    I do note the information on COVID deaths was from May of last year and not from his year after COVID is burning through India. I am curious how those deaths from diarrhea etc. stack up against the COVID deaths this year.

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    same as expats riding motorcycles here without wearing a helmet, whinging when they get fined but keep doing it.
    the law about masks applies to everyone so if you refuse to wear a mask when outdoors, pay the fine and stop whinging about it or you could go to court and have a holiday at the governments expense as well as being fined

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    what is it about masks that get panties so twisted ?

    is it anxiety attacks ? masculinity impinged ? deep recalcitrance ?

    cotton surgical masks are easy as fcuk to wear and you can even buy fancy ones to match your handbag if you are afraid of colour mis coordination

    half the world seems to be suffering from abject insecurity and spending so many hours to justify their lunacy and most people look at them saying WTF ?
    This. Exactly this.

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