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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    ^^here we go again...
    There you go again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    ^ Have a bacon sandwich you fucking old wanker.
    Glug glug glug eh LT. Glug glug glug......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post

    Read up on the subject [ have kids here ] in theory we don't have a population density to support dengue spread, but with new roads and more people working in towns and cities, coming and going, they bring the virus with them.


    My kids go to school in the town, towns have population densities that support dengue, people exposed to the virus can transport the virus back to their villages.
    I don't understand much of your post. Dengue cannot be transmitted from person to person. It is transmitted by mosquito bites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    I don't understand much of your post. Dengue cannot be transmitted from person to person. It is transmitted by mosquito bites.
    I'm not being argumentative (sad that I have to qualify that with you), but I think he knows that. Mozzies are the vectors, but humans as the host can transport the virus to a places far beyond where a carrier mozzie could go, where the local mozzie vectors can re-spread the infection.

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    Hope your son gets better soon. It's a miserable illness, spent over a week in bed but felt weak and feeble for a good month after

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    ^^Wow. Totally lost me there. I'm honestly not clear at all what you're saying. That humans carry the mosquitoes on their person? Sorry, just don't understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^^Wow. Totally lost me there. I'm honestly not clear at all what you're saying. That humans carry the mosquitoes on their person? Sorry, just don't understand.
    Cool you're reaching out and asking.
    No, humans don't carry the mosquitoes. A human gets bitten and becomes infected, and carries the virus to another place whereupon a local mosquitoe bites him and then, as the vector, spreads the disease to a person in the new location. The virus is now in that new place, spread locally by mozzies, but taken there initially by the human carrier.

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    ^Cool. Got it. Had me lost for a bit. I had dengue in 1979 in Sri Lanka....hopefully never again. At first I thought it was a relapse of malaria that I got in Vietnam ten years earlier, but it wasn't....I thought the dengue was worse. Kicked my ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^Cool. Got it. Had me lost for a bit. I had dengue in 1979 in Sri Lanka....hopefully never again. At first I thought it was a relapse of malaria that I got in Vietnam ten years earlier, but it wasn't....I thought the dengue was worse. Kicked my ass.
    Some that have experienced both will certainly swear that dengue is more volatile and dangerous, yet never receives the attention nor imagined reputation that is associated with malarial varieties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    A human gets bitten and becomes infected
    Yes
    A human cannot pass that on, so no matter where they move to can't transmit the disease.
    only mossies.
    I need to get my head round this.
    pls explain more. ta




    Ok after a word in my ear i see it is possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    Yes
    A human cannot pass that on, so no matter where they move to can't transmit the disease.
    only mossies.
    I need to get my head round this.
    pls explain more. ta




    Ok after a word in my ear i see it is possible.
    Further to that, just a little sideline... the last time I had it and knew it after the hospital, and was at home, I noticed mozzies in my bedroom attempting to bite me which was/is very unusual, and it occurred to me that perhaps in being infected my body was emmiting a pheromone sort of thing to attract the mosquitoes. The virus needs to spread.
    Just a thought based on the coincidence of me being infected and mozzies very unusually coming into the air-conned bedroom.

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    If you have the virus and a mosquito of the variety that can carry the virus bites you it then becomes infected with the virus, in a area with a high population like Rawai the virus is then easily spread to other people who then spread it to other mosquitoes when they bite these infected people, its a never ending cycle that can only be stopped by the local government fogging the whole area, which they do not do, they only flog the houses where someone has been infected not the surrounding properties

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    Lets get the facts straight, our son went to the Dibuk hospital with flue symptoms plus a very bad headache after he had these symptoms for several days
    They did not give him a blood test to check what was wrong with him even though dengue fever is all over Rawai, and sent him home with common pain killers throat lozengers and penicillin which we already had given him
    After 7 days and his headaches becoming unbearable (he had not slept for 4 days) i sent him to the Bangkok hospital where they gave him a blood test that confirmed he had dengue and admitted him on the spot( after being paid 50K baht up front)
    His condition is now improving and he has been shifted from the ICU unit to a room, his headaches and now bearable and they want his blood count correct before they release him from hospital

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    Quote Originally Posted by petercallen View Post
    its a never ending cycle that can only be stopped by the local government fogging the whole area, which they do not do, they only flog the houses where someone has been infected not the surrounding properties
    You are right. It's quite dumb to spray in very localised limited areas. I guess the budget for fogging is directed somewhere else. In my city (Hatyai) they fog entire neighbourhoods at 4 am whenever anyone rings up to complain that there's too many mozzies, even without any reports of dengue. After my last bout my Mrs was ringing every couple of months. She got very paranoid about mozzies. She even got some packets of some sort of powder from the council and was sprinking it in all the neighbours' fish bowls to kill wrigglers (although I think if there's fish, there would be no wrigglers/larvae).
    Unfortunately, there's a swamp at the end of my soi, and that is never treated. There will always be mozzies coming in from the swamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petercallen View Post
    They did not give him a blood test to check what was wrong with him even though dengue fever is all over Rawai, and sent him home with common pain killers throat lozengers and penicillin which we already had given him
    May be because Dengue Fever cannot be tested for until 4+ days after onset of fever. And even if after 4 days and Dengue Fever is confirmed there's nothing much they can give a person other than what your son has already been given. There is no magic bullet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    May be because Dengue Fever cannot be tested for until 4+ days after onset of fever.
    Just asking.. google may be required... is it 4 days after onset of fever or 4 days after the mozzie bite? I did a lot of reading when I got dengue, and I seem to recall that the latter is the case, but I may be wrong. Once fever is evident, it means the virus is rampant in your body.
    Could be Peter's hospital was remiss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Just asking.. google may be required... is it 4 days after onset of fever
    When I came down with the fever the hospital said I had to come back in 4 days to be tested for Dengue. That I did and it was confirmed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    or 4 days after the mozzie bite?
    If you were to go to the hospital every 4th day after being bit by a mossie you may as well stay at the hospital permanently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Just asking.. google may be required... is it 4 days after onset of fever
    When I came down with the fever the hospital said I had to come back in 4 days to be tested for Dengue. That I did and it was confirmed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    or 4 days after the mozzie bite?
    If you were to go to the hospital every 4th day after being bit by a mossie you may as well stay at the hospital permanently.

    Symptoms usually start 4 to 7 days after you are bitten by an infected mosquito. Sometimes it may be as long as 2 weeks before you start having symptoms. Symptoms of dengue fever may include: Sudden high fever.

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    Slightly less than 2 years ago, after a day of feeling pretty crap, M'Sahib made me go to hospital (Dibuk, the same one that Peter said sent his son home without testing), where I had a blood test, type 2 (Hemorraghic) Dengue confirmed, and admitted as a patient for 6 days. On a drip for fluids for all that time, with blood tests taken every 4 hours, temperature and BP every 2 hours if I remember rightly. Once my white blood cell count was high enough, was discharged. Total bill came to 40,000 baht which I thought was pretty good, as was the room which was spacious, en-suite etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    If you were to go to the hospital every 4th day after being bit by a mossie
    Beside the point. I was asking about the pathology.



    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    Total bill came to 40,000 baht
    Jeepers! Even my few days at Sikarin and a week at Hatyai Hospital didn't come to half of that. I think my few days at private hospital Sikarin was 10,000 and a week at the government hospital was 7k including meds. Sikarin charge for every last cotton bud or bandaid used.

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    my wife is a community health worker,she she knows when there is any case's of dengue,last week at a mooban near us she reported a case,3days later another,what she found strange was the 2 case's were in the same street with only a few house's apart.[KORAT]

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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    my wife is a community health worker,she she knows when there is any case's of dengue,last week at a mooban near us she reported a case,3days later another,what she found strange was the 2 case's were in the same street with only a few house's apart.[KORAT]
    Why is that strange to her? (It makes sense to me.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Why is that strange to her? (It makes sense to me.)
    And me. If you have one case, there's likelihood, there'll be other cases close by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Why is that strange to her? (It makes sense to me.)
    The nature of the viral beast. It makes perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    And me. If you have one case, there's likelihood, there'll be other cases close by.
    As it's much more closely systematic, less random.
    Rather logical.

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