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    @betty - the resort where I stayed at was Badladz Dive Resort, which was ideal for me since it was only few minutes walk from Muelle Pier and in between Sabang and White Beach - I visited both. The coastline on White Beach is bigger and has cream colored sand. Sabang has a small beach or coastline only, but it's the place for pubs, girly bars and there are also many diving resorts.

    Badladz Dive Resort has a sister resort, Badladz Beach Resort. Last time I checked, rate there was 1.5 to 2k per night. As a client of Badladz, I was allowed to use the pool & beach in the sister beach resort. Pics of those are in the later parts of my thread. If you want to relax, I would recommend Badladz Beach Resort since they have their own private beach. If you want to visit White Beach or Sabang, just hire a tricycle (trike).

    I also visited 2 waterfalls during that trip - the large Tamaraw Falls and smaller Aninuan Falls, which required a bit of walking to get there.

    IMO, you could prolly have a 3-5 day holiday in PG for 10k pesos or less, but then I'm a local. If you want to dive or go on boat trips, Badladz can arrange it for you. The owners are a Canadian man & his Filipino wife.

    The South African guy - forgot his username here - he has stayed at both Badladz Beach resort & the dive resort on diff occasions; I recommended it. AFAIK, he enjoyed both stays.

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    why not Sri Lanka

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    Quote Originally Posted by TizMe View Post
    Panglao Island is another place that I enjoyed.
    There is now a direct flight connection from Korea to Panglao. Mostly Korean tourists there. Alona beach used to be a paradise. I no longer enjoy it, really. I was there when tourism was not even a distant concept and then from the beginning with the first basic resort. Mostly for divers. You can get into the water at the beach but better not swim out because of crazy boat drivers, very dangerous. But accomodation from very cheap and ok 200m from the beach to luxury hotel. A number of attractions on the main island Bohol. The spectacular Chocolate Hills, a swinging rope bridge over a wild river. Butterfly farm. I had a few fireflies in my bedroom occasionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    This looks really nice
    Looks like the only good thing to come out of Manila, as the old joke goes.

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    I didn't realise that the Philippines has such a wealth of interesting and beautiful places to visit.

    Thanks for your hotel suggestions, Katie, I may well stay there.

    Sri Lanka is great, Badders, you must've enjoyed my Sri Lanka thread (and related Nepal thread) - just too far to fly; I want 5 hours or less to fly. I really enjoyed Vietnam last year, Danang and How An except as Takeovers mentions the direct flights from Seoul mean endless Korean tourists and Chicken&Beer bars, it'd be nice to get away from Koreans for a while (nice as they are in a Korean sort of way...). I wanna try somewhere new, so that's Saipan, Philippines, Hong Kong or Taipei; I wanting beach and a bit interesting, so that rules Saipan out(until another day).

    I used to do lots of diving, so maybe an easy day trip with a couple of very easy dives could be on the cards, my PADI/BSAC/TDI accreditation is probably no more than 15-20 years out of date...
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    @betty - I really enjoyed my stay in PG, and would go there again, given the chance. However, there are other places to visit and more mountains to climb!

    As I've stated, I visited Badladz Beach resort & enjoyed the vibe there, very peaceful and with their own private beach. If you (and your wife) would like to watch a nice sunset, hire a trike to bring you to White Beach - on a good day, the sunsets there would be so great. When I went there, it was slightly cloudy (it was Sept), but still the sunset was nice. Feb or March would be a great time to visit here, as the chance of typhoons is less. For the purpose of my trip, I liked my stay at Badladz dive resort since it was midway of White Beach and Sabang Beach.

    BTW, if you book that beach resort, you'd need a ticket to Muelle Pier of PG, then from the pier, take a trike to the resort. Trike to the resort should cost 150 to 200 php. Motorbike taxis from Muelle to White Beach was 100 php, as I remember. Trike rides were 150 php.

    Cheers! If ever you do visit PG and Badladz, you owe me a coffee!

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    If nothing else a morning flight to BKK and be on Koh Chang for dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    @betty - I really enjoyed my stay in PG, and would go there again, given the chance. However, there are other places to visit and more mountains to climb! Cheers! If ever you do visit PG and Badladz, you owe me a coffee!
    It's about 50/50 at the moment because looking at flights and arrivals, I'd likely be in Manilla next Friday night or Saturday morning, and I can imagine that's gonna be a bad time to be travelling to PG (even though I really like the looks of the place). The hotel you stayed in close to the jetty is available, looks to suit my purpose, and is $40 a night on Agoda.

    So, the other option is a flight to Kalibo with Air Seoul. Just wondering what kind of advice for transportation to Boracay, any places to stay and stuff to do other than diving (I might do one day of diving wherever I go, but that'll be it). I wanna relax on a balcony (with my laptop) overlooking a beach. I want sit in coffee shops with my laptop, have some beers in interesting bars, have a walk around for a km or 2 here and there, maybe go on a trip somewhere picturesque, maybe 5 days in total, no wife in tow because she has to stay home and look after her puppy...

    I'm reading through these two excellent threads, some great info, thanks.

    https://teakdoor.com/philippine-forum...pt-2015-a.html
    https://teakdoor.com/philippine-forum...pt-2015-a.html (Boracay Sept 2015)

    Edit: scrap the Boracay idea, I don't like the look of that place at all... Maybe there's some other interesting places to go on the main island, and stay in Boracay for a couple of nights?

    I think I could handle this for a couple of days:

    https://www.agoda.com/en-gb/bahari-beach-resort/hotel/caticlan-malay-ph.html?checkin=2019-02-09&los=5&adults=1&rooms=1&cid=1646623&tag=655ae14 6-37bb-9ba8-bc0b-05cd2dbc81a0&searchrequestid=642405da-140f-41ae-9fa0-dba04648c2d6&travellerType=0

    Now, just gonna research if much to do around town.
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    Thinking about times gone by, and Davis on this thread, this seemed somewhat appropriate:



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    @betty - If you fly to Manila on a Friday night, you'd have to stay at a hotel, since the boats from Batangas port to PG don't travel at night - they have a cut off, 2 or 3 pm only, I think. It would be better to arrive on a Sat morn (early arrival, maybe 5 am?) then taxi or bus immediately to Batangas port & boat to PG. That way you can still enjoy the morning or half day. It's good to travel on a Saturday morn bcos there's less traffic. There are balconies at Badladz beach resort. They also have this metal garden chair set on the back lawn, it's overlooking the beach. Nice place for your Gay Macbook Air while you surf TD.

    Re: Boracay, I think the flights land during daytime as well, since the speed boats to the island operate only during the day. The planes actually land near Caticlan port (or Kalibo Airport, depends on your airline). Caticlan or Kalibo is part of Panay island, then you'll ride a boat (5-10 min) to get to the small island of Boracay.

    The resort where I stayed in Boracay is called Alice in Wonderland Resort, owned by a Japanese consortium. There were only 1-storey bungalows, but each had a small porch. There's also a central area where they serve breakfast, and a small pool. Room there was ~1k pesos when I stayed. However, it may not suit your bourgeois needs , so I would also point you to La Carmela de Boracay. Rooms there are 3.5 to 5k, with balcony, swimming pool, and depending on your room, can have a sea view.

    I found Boracay more touristy and pricey than PG. The sand is whiter and finer in Boracay, and there are more establishments in terms of food and shopping. You can also be a "joiner" in a boat tour (island hopping) - just ask around. A friend of mine did that; he was with his wife & son. Some ppl like Boracay more (bcos it's more touristy). However, I liked PG more, bcos I was able to see waterfalls, hike a bit, and it was generally more peaceful. It suited my needs & frame of mind at that time. However, diff strokes for diff folks.

    Go to the Boracay news thread, re: the closure of Boracay. I remember that I posted a YT vid there of some vloggers and their opinion of Boracay after it reopened late last year.

    BTW Boracay is also a fave destination of Koreans, bcos of the direct flights. When I visited, there was a large K group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    @betty - If you fly to Manila on a Friday night, you'd have to stay at a hotel, since the boats from Batangas port to PG don't travel at night - they have a cut off, 2 or 3 pm only, I think. It would be better to arrive on a Sat morn (early arrival, maybe 5 am?) then taxi or bus immediately to Batangas port & boat to PG. That way you can still enjoy the morning or half day. It's good to travel on a Saturday morn bcos there's less traffic. There are balconies at Badladz beach resort. They also have this metal garden chair set on the back lawn, it's overlooking the beach. Nice place for your Gay Macbook Air while you surf TD.

    Re: Boracay, I think the flights land during daytime as well, since the speed boats to the island operate only during the day. The planes actually land near Caticlan port (or Kalibo Airport, depends on your airline). Caticlan or Kalibo is part of Panay island, then you'll ride a boat (5-10 min) to get to the small island of Boracay.

    The resort where I stayed in Boracay is called Alice in Wonderland Resort, owned by a Japanese consortium. There were only 1-storey bungalows, but each had a small porch. There's also a central area where they serve breakfast, and a small pool. Room there was ~1k pesos when I stayed. However, it may not suit your bourgeois needs , so I would also point you to La Carmela de Boracay. Rooms there are 3.5 to 5k, with balcony, swimming pool, and depending on your room, can have a sea view.

    I found Boracay more touristy and pricey than PG. The sand is whiter and finer in Boracay, and there are more establishments in terms of food and shopping. You can also be a "joiner" in a boat tour (island hopping) - just ask around. A friend of mine did that; he was with his wife & son. Some ppl like Boracay more (bcos it's more touristy). However, I liked PG more, bcos I was able to see waterfalls, hike a bit, and it was generally more peaceful. It suited my needs & frame of mind at that time. However, diff strokes for diff folks.

    Go to the Boracay news thread, re: the closure of Boracay. I remember that I posted a YT vid there of some vloggers and their opinion of Boracay after it reopened late last year.

    BTW Boracay is also a fave destination of Koreans, bcos of the direct flights. When I visited, there was a large K group.
    Thanks for all your valuable info, Katie.

    Now, let's be very very clear: I do not have a gay MacBook Air, because they are for men that like men... I have a very manly MacBook because that's what real men use; if you don't believe me ask Papillion or Mr Sausage.

    I do like the look of PG very much, but also like the ease of flying directly to Kalibo then maybe staying at a nice beach place close to Caticlan for a couple of days and maybe Boracay for a couple of days (I don't think I could handle more than 2 or 3 days on Boracay as it seems a bit one-dimensional; and if I came across any fire-wavers, endless K-people, never-ending hawking of products then I may be forced into a frenzy...). I may spend the next 10 days researching then go back to work on the 17th...



    Or I may just get on with it and book somewhere.

    What I have learnt is that the Philippines looks great, I should've visited years ago.

    I found this (might be some interesting places to visit rather than just doing the beach?):
    Suggested itinerary on the WEST coast of Panay Island from Boracay going south

    1. Boracay - most popular beach in the Philippines
    2. Malay - Nabaoy River, Pangihan Cave, Nagata Falls, Agnaga Falls, Naasug Point, Malay Ecological Park, Motag Living Museum
    3. Nabas - wind tubines, Hurom-Hurom Cold Springs
    4. Pandan - Malumpati Spring
    5. Libertad - Maanghit Cave, Ati Cave and Bungan-Bungan Spring
    6. Sebaste - Igpasungaw Waterfall
    7. Culasi - Malalison Island
    8. Tibiao - hot kawa-bath, white water river rafting, Bugtong Bato Waterfall, rice terraces, Tibiao Bakery, pottery, fish spa
    9. Anini-y - Nogas Island, scuba diving

    Suggested itinerary on the EAST coast of Panay Island from Boracay going south

    1. Boracay - most popular beach in the Philippines
    2. Malay - Nabaoy River, Pangihan Cave, Nagata Falls, Agnaga Falls, Naasug Point, Malay Ecological Park, Motag Living Museum
    3. Nabas - wind tubines, Hurom-Hurom Cold Springs
    4. Kalibo - Bakhawan Eco-Park, Tigayon Hill
    5. Tambak - oysters
    6. Capiz - Roxas City
    7. Carles | Estancia - Gigantes Island Boat Tour, Lighthouse of Gigantes Island and Bakwitan Cave of Gigantes Island
    8. Iloilo - Batchoy Indulgence

    http://www.thelonerider.com/2016/dec...han_cave.shtml
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    That's much more travelling than the max two hours bus ride you initially envisioned.

    Don't plan too tight a schedule, getting around in the Phils can be very tiring & hazardous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Where to go for a short Philippines trip?
    If it is a short trip you are looking for then I heard that there is a girly bar in the phils that is staffed entirely by dwarves.

    I am not into girly bars myself but it would be worth a diversion to see a place like that!

    Or take a walk on the wild side and let Miss Katie do a number on you with her climbing ropes and straps. She will blindfold you and take you up the Khyber Pass with a goretex strap-on I heard!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I want sit in coffee shops with my laptop, have some beers in interesting bars, have a walk around for a km or 2 here and there, maybe go on a trip somewhere picturesque, maybe 5 days in total, no wife in tow because she has to stay home and look after her puppy
    ....and the MacMini?

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    Betty just one thing that nobody's mentioned to you as a first time visitor, the Philippines is a very different destination for foreign travellers than Thailand as far as personal security goes. Just be a bit more aware of your surroundings, and keep your valuables out of sight. Enjoy your holiday!.

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    @betty - Stroller is right, don't plan too tight a schedule. It can take many hours from point A to B when travelling in PI, especially in the Visayas region (which Panay Island is a part of).

    Example: I've been to the town of Bugasong in Antique province twice, as I stayed with a good friend/ colleague who is from there. It took me average of 4 hours by bus to travel from Caticlan port to Bugasong Town. I took the 2go ferry. (look at a map while you're reading this)

    To get from Caticlan port to the town of Tibiao (where there's Tibiao ecopark, zip line, trail for hiking, etc), takes maybe 3.5 to 4H from Caticlan port. My friend and I planned to go to Tibiao ecopark with her kids, but wasn't able to go due to Xmas/NY festivities and she had mom and daughter duties. It was OK with me, since I was just a guest and her hometown was a welcome change from my usual scene. But I digress.

    Tibiao ecopark is a bit far from the main road. You'd have to arrange some form of transport to get there.

    To get to San Jose town (from Bugasong) took us an hour or so. We went there to get stuff for NY eve celebrations.

    In my Boracay trip, from Caticlan port, we had to travel to Roxas City port, to catch our ferry back to Batangas. It took us 6 hours to get there and we barely made it in time for check-in to our ship. Google maps and some blogs will tell you it's just 4 hours, but if travelling by public transport (we went by bus and trike), with all the stops and transfers, it took us 6 hours. The reality is different.

    If I were you and I had only 5-6 days, then I'd base myself in PG. Soak the sun for 2-3 days, then if I felt like it, ask the resort ppl of where to go in the vicinity. In PG, you could visit Tamaraw Falls and swim in the pool there. You could also trek to nearby falls but you'd have to hire a guide. When I visited PG, they were making a road in the mountains to make wind turbines. Maybe you could visit the turbines there too. You could also visit the town of Calapan - the capital of the province. Just people watch, see the provincial capital and eat at a Jollibee! Lol. Maybe there's a Starbucks there too, for your bourgeois tastes.

    Edit after seeing Headwork's post - he's right. Buy a padlock (the combination type) for your bags. If you're going to do a lot of transfers, it's better to bring a backpack than a suitcase - easier to haul it in buses, trikes or minivans. When travelling in PI, I always use a backpack, so I can carry it on my lap in buses, jeeps or trikes, or wear it on motorbike taxis!

    P. S. There are also places in Panay Island that I wouldn't advise a white foreigner to go to, especially in the mountains. If you had a local friend guiding or taking care of you, I would feel better. But if you're alone, then don't be too adventurous. Stick to the tourist trail. There are some rebel groups / insurgents in the mountains (and some towns, coz they have to get supplies) in Panay Island.

    BTW, to get from Caticlan port to Iloilo city takes 6-8 hours, depending on traffic and number of toilet/ rest stops.
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    @loopy dahlink - the invite to join me in hiking in PI is still open. If blindfolds are your kink, I'll blindfold you and tie your arms in ropes before we hike the knife edge (cliffs) and "kiss the wall" parts of Mt. Halcon or Mt. Guiting Guiting.

    @betty - you could also check out Bohol Island, but don't base yourself there. Base yourself in Panglao Island, Dumaluan Beach (maybe Villa Umi Resort - check out my Bohol thread) or Bohol Beach Club. The Dubay Resort where I stayed might be too proletariat for you. Don't stay in Alona Beach - lots of C tourists when I was there. But do go there for the afternoon/ dinner and some ppl watching.

    From Panglao Island, you can go on a boat your (Island hopping, snorkeling, dolphin watching). You could also see the tarsier sanctuary, python sanctuary, Chocolate Hills, Hanging Bamboo Bridge, etc - all in a day tour. You can be a joiner in an organised tour or hire your own motorbike. But make sure you have travel insurance if you'll do that!

    Edit: Tizme has stated it, but I'll say it again. From Bohol Island, you can take a ferry (fast ferry, 2H, 400 php OR slow ferry, 3.5H, 200 php) to the south of Cebu island. You can base yourself in Panglao and go on a day trip to South Cebu and just explore the small towns there. There's also canyoneering in Kawasan Falls (look it up on YT, many vids), but Kawasan Falls is a bit far from the port - you'd have to base yourself somewhere in Cebu Island. You don't even have to go to Cebu City (that's in the North) if that's not your fancy. You can also go whale watching in Donsol, Cebu. Forgot if it's in the North or South Cebu - see a map.

    So you can base yourself in Bohol and just explore from there, coz as Takeovers said, there are direct flights from Korea.

    BTW, Kalibo airport is 1.5 to 2H away from Caticlan port, depends on time & traffic. So even if you flew into Kalibo (there's an Air Asia flight), you'd have to travel by bus, minivan or taxi. Almost same as if you flew in to Manila and went to Batangas Port + Puerto Galera.

    BTW is my browser fooling me, or are the pics back up in my Boracay & Sagada threads? They were gone before due to the Photobucket purge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    If it is a short trip you are looking for then I heard that there is a girly bar in the phils that is staffed entirely by dwarves.

    I am not into girly bars myself but it would be worth a diversion to see a place like that!

    Or take a walk on the wild side and let Miss Katie do a number on you with her climbing ropes and straps. She will blindfold you and take you up the Khyber Pass with a goretex strap-on I heard!

    You would be sadly dissapointed. I think you are talking about the hobbit house in manila. Not really a girly bar, more just a bar staffed by dwarves.

    Google says it is permanantly closed, so no idea. Looking at on line reviews, definately give it a swerve.

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    Canyoneering in Kawasan Falls, Cebu by Travel Beans. I've watched a few vids from this couple. They're a young Brit couple and have travelled Thailand and PI extensively. They've also done a vid about TH and PI; I thought they were spot on.





    Edit: seems Photobucket has restored the links to my pic threads. Yay!
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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    If I were you and I had only 5-6 days, then I'd base myself in PG. Soak the sun for 2-3 days,... You could also visit the town of Calapan - the capital of the province.
    Presumably there is a proper road & bus service by now?
    When I went 20 years ago, it was 4 hours on a dirt track, cramped into the back of a Jeepney - not an enjoyable experience. Had to go there for the only ATM which would accept my Coconut Farmers bank card.

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    @stroller - a lot can happen in 20 years. Yes, the main highway is now cemented from PG to Calapan, all the way to Bulalacao Port, located at the south of Mindoro island. There are also minivan and jeepney services from PG to Calapan, located near the town proper (Poblacion). The journey takes ~2H now.

    If you scroll through my 2016 PG thread, I used the PG-Calapan Road on the way to Tamaraw Falls. I hired a motorbike driver and took pics along the way.

    https://teakdoor.com/philippine-forum...pt-2016-a.html (Pretty Good in Puerto Galera (Sept 2016))

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    Ok, I'm booked in the Philippines; leave my apartment midday Friday, and if all goes to plan should arrive back almost exactly 7 days later.

    Flying in on the worst airline I've ever flown (that I promised myself I'd never fly again...), so that should be a good start. I expect terrible check-in experiences followed by early boarding, waiting on the tarmac in the plane for several hours (just like when I flew them to Danang - I was wrecked, fell asleep, woke up hours later happy that we'd landed, but no, still in Seoul, hadn't taken off yet - 3 hours on the tarmac...) then the worst legroom I've ever experienced; this time I paid $30 each way to get the emergency exit/front row aisle seat so leg room shouldn't be an issue.

    Landing in Manilla then off to PG as suggested by folks here (Katie ferry style). I booked 3 nights up the Sabang hills with a hill/sea views balcony (can do some work on the manly laptop while feeling relaxed) and decent wifi ($30 per night including breakfast) then a couple of nights in the place Katie stayed at ($40 per night). Then boat back to Manilla for a 11pm flight to Seoul.

    Thanks for all your suggestions, especially Katie, and I'll be making a photo thread if I make it out of Manila onto the PG bound boat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    but she was actually fuming...
    Bets, you know what they say "never go to bed on a wasted opportunity", least that's what i think they say. Now ref your wife funing, you need to get to the bottom of this, or perhaps she does looking at the piccy......
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