Pattaya Traffic Police Bundling Charges

[FarangRed]

Where did he get the money to pay the fine?

I believe a phone call got it down to 200baht and he paid it, but thats not the point, 1,200baht is still way too much for basically a student.

The point is he broke the law

[dirtydog]

^And he paid his fine, do you have a problem with that?

[FarangRed]

With your money^

[dirtydog]

^Nope, his own money, as I said in the beginning, like any responsible father who is woken up 3 hours into his sleep for shit like this I done the responsible thing, and told them to fuk off.

[superman]

If they enforced the laws and fined people in this country for their insane driving habits, the police wouldn't bother with tea money as Thailand could then afford to pay them a proper wage.

The police should be paid by bonuses. A percentage of the fine going to the police station fund and divided equally at the end of the month /year, whatever. The more fines the bigger the bonus. So then the cops have some incentive to work.

[hazz]

If they enforced the laws and fined people in this country for their insane driving habits, the police wouldn't bother with tea money as Thailand could then afford to pay them a proper wage.

The police should be paid by bonuses. A percentage of the fine going to the police station fund and divided equally at the end of the month /year, whatever. The more fines the bigger the bonus. So then the cops have some incentive to work.

^I believe this already done with the official fines that they issue. I also understand this is how the bribes works too, which is why being put on an inactive post hurts so much..... you loose your share of these two pots

[superman]

which is why being put on an inactive post hurts so much..... you loose your share of these two pots

Not if it's pooled.

[jandajoy]

A percentage of the fine going to the police station fund and divided equally at the end of the month /year, whatever. The more fines the bigger the bonus. So then the cops have some incentive to work.

Very rural Italy. Towards the end of the month you WILL get fined, payday looms.

[alwarner]

If they enforced the laws and fined people in this country for their insane driving habits, the police wouldn't bother with tea money as Thailand could then afford to pay them a proper wage.

The police should be paid by bonuses. A percentage of the fine going to the police station fund and divided equally at the end of the month /year, whatever. The more fines the bigger the bonus. So then the cops have some incentive to work.

^No. They have more incentive to fine people to feather their nests.

[superman]

The thing is that if you've done no wrong, then you won't get legitimately fined. No fines to be paid unless official receipt it issued. The more people that then abide with the laws make it harder for the police to make the bonus payment target. The incentive is then to make the police work even harder.
How many times have you driven past a police check point only to see them sitting on their arses eating food ? Even the opportunity to earn bribes doesn't seem to motivate them.

[Dino]

I don't understand the 100% helmet rule when they allow kids to ride without them, food vendors to drive bikes without them, and truckloads full of Thai workers standing up in the back of a pickup spewing black smoke and driving full speed down Sukhimvit.

And honestly, what good is a 120b plastic helmet going to do anyone? If they wanted to enforce the law, they should make everyone wear REAL helmets. I wear one already. Don't understand how a spaghetti bowl strainer on your head is going to protect anything during a crash.

Or could it be that some pooyai owns a cheap plastic 120b helmet company and made a few calls to a few other pooyais, who in turn made some calls to police chiefs, and so on.

[Bettyboo]

There have been massive amounts of road checks going in and out of Bkk on the major arteries over the last year or so...

I got stopped a few days ago (only 2nd time in 18 months) whilst dring into Bkk from Nakon Pathom; I have no idea why, but the guy was very polite and said 300 baht at the station whilst pointing to a brand new blue sign (didn't bother trying to read it...) partially hidden behind a stationary police vehicle... I had no idea where the local police station was so I gave him 100 baht and was on my way...

When driving, you will be stopped from time to time, they have mobile traps they set up which will catch you.

I was quite pleased with meself, insomuchas I didn't even think about the corruption or anything, just felt happy to be on my way quickly, having spoken to such a pleasant local chappie...

[hazz]

I don't understand the 100% helmet rule when they allow kids to ride without them, food vendors to drive bikes without them, and truckloads full of Thai workers standing up in the back of a pickup spewing black smoke and driving full speed down Sukhimvit.

And honestly, what good is a 120b plastic helmet going to do anyone? If they wanted to enforce the law, they should make everyone wear REAL helmets. I wear one already. Don't understand how a spaghetti bowl strainer on your head is going to protect anything during a crash.

Or could it be that some pooyai owns a cheap plastic 120b helmet company and made a few calls to a few other pooyais, who in turn made some calls to police chiefs, and so on.

That's easy to explain:

there are three types of law in thailand

1) Laws you can ignore, with impunity
2) Laws you can bribe/licence your way into ignoring
3) Laws that you really have to watch out for and can land you in jail

The difficulty is working which laws fall into which catagory. Its really a rather complex matter of who you your parents and children are, how rich you are or appear to be, whats your job, how close you are to you know who.

If it sounds complex, don't worry, even the police find it hard at times... more so because there are two similar but competing sets of rules flying about; Sakada 1.0, oppitimised by the yellow shirt leadership, and sakada 2.0 by the red shirt leadership.

the important thing to remember as a foreigner is; that under both these systems your are at the bottom. Both systems are exceptionalist and assume everything thai is superior. so just because you see a food vender getting away with a petty crime like no insurance, no helmet, red lighting does not mean that you can. And don't think you can ever get away with executing a policman in the middle of a nightclub; just because the son of some poo yah did