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Did it ever occur to you that the smells of Thailand and BKK are from the humid climate ? Or do you think downtown Jakarta smells like Vancouver ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
If you have nothing good to say about the whole country or the whole continent then why not fuck off west ? They have all the red tape and regulations you want there.
Loy toy thinks he has the same clout as Merriot international, Hilton ect.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
No maybe other creatures have displaced the local creatures in the area....happens all the time. Human beings need a place to swim too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
The water is safe considerinng some Russian family can spend the whole year on the other side of the planet and then jump into the warm humid water in Thailand without getting sick.
The only fucking bullshit you hear in bars and restaurants is that the water is dirty and untreated, from bullshitting people like you. That is what I was led to believe. That is the only reason I got onto this topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
As OhOh proved, every other beach city in the world deals with the water the same way. If you don't like beaches then so be it, but Pattaya's problems are no different then anyone else's.
You get your head out of your ass and go tour one of the 2 water treatment plants because you seem to have a hard time believing that they exist.
Something is feeding these treatment plants in Pattaya, unless you are part of the conspiracy crowd that claims the plants dont exist. I never said 100% of the grey water in Pattaya gets treated but assholes like LoyToy have the rumor going around that you are literally swimming in shit and piss, as if there is no water treatment plants in Pattaya.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydog
Other then Dubia, I can guarantee that there is some grey water getting into every beach town in the world.
Ahem!! Not quite.Quote:
Originally Posted by socal
All countries have "Methods/Systems" to manage their pollution. Some countries manage the problem better and than others.
The UK, Japan, US, Aus and most EU countries have strict controls and a population who demand them and are backed by regulatory control - local and central governments. China is being pressurised by it's growing urban population and a government recognition that it still has someway to go to meet "global" standards, but it is investing in the new cities, as they are developed, and the older cities as well.
Thailands cities, tourist areas and rural communities do not appear, to me, to have the same desire to match these standards.
Posters here imply "control" in Patters is somewhat lacking or no existent. I don't personally know what the situation is regarding Pattaya but my knowledge of Bangkok and rural areas indicates a lack of lack of "will" exists.
After reading Socal's posts on this entire thread it is clear to me that he is trolling this thread. Nobody could be so naturally stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydog
Alright, proved was a little heavy but you put a few things into context.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
What I really think it is, is just a reputation that is dieing hard. The first thing I quoted in the original post was that Pattaya beach HAD water quality issues in the 90's. I don't deny that. That generation (posters here)has kept the reputation going even though the problem has been dealt with.
As new people like the Russians and Chinese move into Pattaya, the myth will eventually die.
So in Phuket, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and Australia, you think that every new house and everyones grey water gets treated and none makes it into the sea ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
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Generally "smelly" sewers are found where the sewage is not transported away quickly enough. As Thailand has pretty large rainfalls throughout the year the means of "transport", the rainfall, is sufficient.Quote:
Originally Posted by socal
The cause of the odour is due to blocked sewer pipes, fully or partial, inadequate gradient on the pipes or after a heavy rain storm inadequate "capacity" in the combined sewer/storm water system. If the system cannot contain the sewage it overflows into the street, the sea or the watercourses.
Due, some believe to climate change, countries weather patterns are changing. In the UK, flash storms and floods are occurring more frequently. The UK regulator has modified the design requirements to match the new conditions but there are a lot of repair/refurbishment schemes still awaiting approval/funding.
Looks like I'll have to remind you about the OP Topic (The urban myth that Pattaya beach is "dirty") even though you created it. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by socal
Pattaya, in fact the whole of Chon Buri Province has a major problem and that is development versus infrastructure availability.
You continue to quote hotel chain publicity stunts and there is absolutely no chance these foreign companies could do anything about the pollution problem on Chon Buri Provinces beaches even if they wanted to.
As you can maybe tell water supply and waste water collection is another pet subject of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by socal
Australia is one of the most water short countries in the world. Consequently they have very high monitoring of the usage of fresh water along with stringent collection of storm water, grey water and foul water. There are fights going on as we speak between the farmers who have historically taken water from Australian rivers for their crops and the cities which are running short. Mexico and Brazil are moving along in the same direction.
Without the water stolen from Syria, Palestine and Jordan, Israel would cease to exist. Libya has developed a very good water system, hence the interest of the "Western Powers"
China, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam have their own water war going on as well.
Let me give you an example from the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
Glasgow is a very large city in south western Scotland. The city originally was a major industrial area. Industry has shrunk leaving large areas derelict. These derelict areas (brown sites) have been bought up by property developers for housing, retail or "clean" industry.
Before permission is given to develop the land, and therefore allow the developers to make a profit, a "plan" has to be in place to both ensure a supply of fresh/drinking water and a method of disposing of the waste/rain water. As Scottish Water had been unable to provide one or both of these a conflict between them and the Glasgow City Council, who wanted the tax revenue and had people to house, arose. This was only solved by the Scottish parliament voting additional funds for Scottish Water to build the infrastructure.
Other countries such as South Africa are having great difficulty in getting anyone to pay for this type of infrastructure and hence there is a great scarcity.
:dtroll: Die thread.
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Originally Posted by socal
So you don't swim in any beaches...They are all too "dirty" in your mind. So Pattaya is really no diffrent then anywhere else.Quote:
Looks like I'll have to remind you about the OP Topic (The urban myth that Pattaya beach is "dirty") even though you created it. :rolleyes:
The water in the beach is cleaner now then it was in the 90's.Quote:
You continue to quote hotel chain publicity stunts and there is absolutely no chance these foreign companies could do anything about the pollution problem on Chon Buri Provinces beaches even if they wanted to.
^I actually don't think socal is a troll. He is just stu...well he has problems.
He is about to hit China with the hole he has dug himself into. Just like a blind ass mole he keeps on digging. How long has he been in Thailand?
I don't think socal is in Thailand. Canada perhaps...Quote:
Originally Posted by aging one
And the only reason some would even suggest that is because the major foreign hotels were told to stop pumping their waste directly into Pattaya Bay or get out.Quote:
Originally Posted by socal
I was here in the late 80's/ early 90's and went swimming regularly at both Pattaya and Jomtien........no problems. In fact the best beach was at Rayong, absolutely pristine and now that is a cess pit as well.
Come on Socal, stop kidding us Gipper, your pulling our leg. :)
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Originally Posted by socal
So basically, Pattaya is not the only place on earth that has some water issues.Quote:
As you can maybe tell water supply and waste water collection is another pet subject of mine.
Australia is one of the most water short countries in the world. Consequently they have very high monitoring of the usage of fresh water along with stringent collection of storm water, grey water and foul water. There are fights going on as we speak between the farmers who have historically taken water from Australian rivers for their crops and the cities which are running short. Mexico and Brazil are moving along in the same direction.
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2011/06/5531.jpg :)Quote:
Without the water stolen from Syria, Palestine and Jordan, Israel would cease to exist. Libya has developed a very good water system, hence the interest of the "Western Powers"
Loytoy or any of the bullshitters have no facts, they have proven nothing. You are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by aging one
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Originally Posted by socal
Is that how you get business at a beachfront hotel ? Pump shit into your own beach ? hell, why not use the swimming pool as a holding tank ?Quote:
And the only reason some would even suggest that is because the major foreign hotels were told to stop pumping their waste directly into Pattaya Bay or get out.
It was actually the hotel industry that lobbied the city to figure something out.
garbage, not worth a response.Quote:
I was here in the late 80's/ early 90's and went swimming regularly at both Pattaya and Jomtien........no problems. In fact the best beach was at Rayong, absolutely pristine and now that is a cess pit as well.
How many of these high class guest's, just say at the Royal Cliff who are paying well over 7,000 Baht per night swim at these beaches Socal?Quote:
Originally Posted by socal
You really are a dump fuck.
Used to go there as a regular weekend get away. Never went to down to the beach. On the hotel grounds nor outside the grounds. As it was usually visited by Pattaya scum, never mind how clean or dirty the water is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
Stopped visiting about 8 years ago. Wife at the time refused to mingle with scum. :(
Are you telling us Porkies Tavelmate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelmate
I questioned you about how you knew so much about pattaya and you quoted this.
Been once.
tis was enough.
It the people that goes on and on and on and on, what a nice place it is.
When clearly it is the exact opposite.
It's a cesspit for whore mongers.
I know your a lot of things but not as a liar as well. :mid: Sad when someone resorts to this shit.