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    Pattaya beach 2020 and beyond

    With covid19 and the decline of western currencies, there's a lot of prognostications that the era of Pattaya growth is over. This presumably means the city will be catching up and getting ahead of its issues , one of them being the alleged Pattaya beach water quality issues.

    So where are we at today ?

    Maybe we should ask the esteemed Pattaya pioneer, Loytoy. How are those city council meetings going Loytoy ? Any talk of improving water drainage and whatnot ?

    Anyway, in the news:

    Pattaya City Mayor visits Pattaya Beach, addresses claims of “wastewater” draining into beach, states the water simply appeared dark due to sediment after heavy rain

    Pattaya City Mayor visits Pattaya Beach, addresses claims of "wastewater" draining into beach, states the water simply appeared dark due to sediment after heavy rain - The Pattaya News

    The Pattaya City Mayor visited the Pattaya City beach today to inspect two drains located near Walking Street that caused a controversy on social media yesterday.
    The Mayor, Sonthaya Khunpluem, was referring to a post on social media that went viral on several Facebook pages and groups with the above photo, claiming that the material being released into Pattaya Bay was wastewater, such as sewage, without clear proof. The photo was taken by an anonymous concerned citizen and then sent to major Facebook groups such as We Love Pattaya, stated the Mayor.


    Mayor Khunpluem told the Associated Thai press that these claims, which hurt the image of Pattaya, were false and strongly distorted after inspecting the area with a team of reporters and other City Council members.

    The Mayor stated that the water coming from the drains was regularly tested by the city and was one hundred percent rainwater and not wastewater from sewage drains and that there is no crossover between the two systems.
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    This isn't a dog and pony show.

    I am planning a trip back to Pattaya sometime in the future and Ill want to swim in the beach with my family. And the unfair stigma around the beach pisses me off.

    Some pseudo insiders are gonna think I'm ignorant for swimming in the water. At a beach no less

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    Two months ago it was a criminal offence to step on a Pattaya beach, now they're so desperate to get people onto their precious though somewhat polluted beaches that evidence in the form of image bruising pics are deemed fake.

    But anyone unsure about the truth doesn't need pics, just walk by that sewage hub anytime day or night and tell us if it's sediment you smell or shite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    This isn't a dog and pony show.

    I am planning a trip back to Pattaya sometime in the future and Ill want to swim in the beach with my family. And the unfair stigma around the beach pisses me off.

    Some pseudo insiders are gonna think I'm ignorant for swimming in the water. At a beach no less

    Are you for real ?
    Swimming in the sea, and especially around Pattaya ? Bad luck for your family to have you it seems.

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    Not to worry – The Thai Governments got their finger on the pulse on the world…

    And they realize international tourism isn't in the cards.


    http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1968875/pattaya-launches-b160m-facelift-to-boost-tourism

    Pattaya launches B160m facelift to boost tourism Published 16 AUG 2020

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    WORK IN PROGRESS: The City of Pattaya will spend 160 million baht to redevelop the landscape over a 4-kilometre stretch of Pattaya Beach.

    Pattaya will spend 160 million baht to improve the city's beach landscape in a bid to attract local tourists.

    The landscape redevelopment on a 4-kilometre stretch of Pattaya Beach will start in October and is expected to be finished by the end of the year, Sonthaya Kunplome, mayor of the City of Pattaya, said on Saturday.

    "The City of Pattaya needs to change its tourism strategy to draw local tourists to the city," Mr Sonthaya said.

    As well as landscape beautification, such as replacing pavements, the new project will involve building car parking spaces for tourist coaches and vehicles and for local visitors, and incorporate underground public toilets.

    The landscape project -- starting from North Pattaya and running to Walking Street -- would rebuild walkways, redevelop gardens and plant more trees.

    Mr Sonthaya said the Pattaya Council approved the 160 million baht budget with the hope the beach landscape redevelopment will "add a new magnet" to the area's sluggish tourism industry.

    In financial terms, Pattaya was one of the hardest-hit tourism areas when the Covid-19 pandemic intensified. Before the outbreak, the city lured 10 million visitors each year, with about 80% of tourists coming from abroad. The largest groups of visitors came from China, Russia and India.

    As foreign tourists disappeared, the city worked to improve infrastructure and landscape to prepare for its recovery.

    In terms of environmental projects, the city will launch a beach restoration project on a 3.5-km stretch of Jomtien Beach which has been affected by coastal erosion.

    The sand filling to cost 600 million baht will replenish the coastline from Lung Sawai restaurant to Jomtien Soi 11. The work is expected to start early next year.

    About 680,000 cubic metres of sand will be required for the project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by questionsreplies View Post
    Are you for real ?
    Swimming in the sea, and especially around Pattaya ? Bad luck for your family to have you it seems.
    You are just a dumb fuck who thinks that other beaches shoot their street runoff into outer space. Guess what cocksucker, they don't. Pattaya is no worse than any other beach

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Not to worry – The Thai Governments got their finger on the pulse on the world…

    And they realize international tourism isn't in the cards.


    http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1968875/pattaya-launches-b160m-facelift-to-boost-tourism

    Pattaya launches B160m facelift to boost tourism Published 16 AUG 2020

    Pattaya beach 2020 and beyond-c1_1968875_200816084407-jpg

    WORK IN PROGRESS: The City of Pattaya will spend 160 million baht to redevelop the landscape over a 4-kilometre stretch of Pattaya Beach.

    Pattaya will spend 160 million baht to improve the city's beach landscape in a bid to attract local tourists.

    The landscape redevelopment on a 4-kilometre stretch of Pattaya Beach will start in October and is expected to be finished by the end of the year, Sonthaya Kunplome, mayor of the City of Pattaya, said on Saturday.

    "The City of Pattaya needs to change its tourism strategy to draw local tourists to the city," Mr Sonthaya said.

    As well as landscape beautification, such as replacing pavements, the new project will involve building car parking spaces for tourist coaches and vehicles and for local visitors, and incorporate underground public toilets.

    The landscape project -- starting from North Pattaya and running to Walking Street -- would rebuild walkways, redevelop gardens and plant more trees.

    Mr Sonthaya said the Pattaya Council approved the 160 million baht budget with the hope the beach landscape redevelopment will "add a new magnet" to the area's sluggish tourism industry.

    In financial terms, Pattaya was one of the hardest-hit tourism areas when the Covid-19 pandemic intensified. Before the outbreak, the city lured 10 million visitors each year, with about 80% of tourists coming from abroad. The largest groups of visitors came from China, Russia and India.

    As foreign tourists disappeared, the city worked to improve infrastructure and landscape to prepare for its recovery.

    In terms of environmental projects, the city will launch a beach restoration project on a 3.5-km stretch of Jomtien Beach which has been affected by coastal erosion.

    The sand filling to cost 600 million baht will replenish the coastline from Lung Sawai restaurant to Jomtien Soi 11. The work is expected to start early next year.

    About 680,000 cubic metres of sand will be required for the project.
    Ever cause for a good moan about the state of Pattaya infrastructure and works, but once through the chaos, mismanagement and inconvenience the finished product is superior to what was, and well worth the wait.

    Aside from several motorways for more efficient travel to and from, main city projects in my time include: widening Thappraya road from Pattaya to Jomtien. Anyone remember what it was like navigating one lane each way, esp in rain or through an accident? If they left it as it was, Jomtien would be dead by now.

    The Sukhumvit subway, hell for months but it works, sends through traffic 1.5km ff, and has eased congestion considerably.

    Pattaya beach widening and promenade, much better than before, though they're still tinkering which is what they do best.

    Jomtien promenade, cleaner, more attractive and safer than before.

    Jomtien 2nd Road through wasteland, brilliant, breathed life and commerce to a chunk of Pattaya where there was none before.

    Other important stuff like sea quality, pollution, broken and unsafe roads, flooding, blackouts, sewage and more don't count; maybe there's not enough scope for graft to keep their interest, so we just have to live with it.

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    Well, I've been visiting Pattaya for seashore vacations 25+ years and thoroughly enjoy it. Driving there is another story.

    I/we would lodge in a good hotel across the street from the beach in Jomtien. Walk across the street, plop my ass in lounge chair under an umbrella and enjoy the day while vendors sold me anything I needed. A grand way to kill a week. Many enjoyable days spent there over the years.

    The beach vacations will continue - the vendors and vacationer support that is established will remain and will adapt to whatever the "New Normal" will wind up becoming.

    And, I, my family and my friends, will return and enjoy our seaside vacations.


    The only real gripe I have is the damn "no beach chair and umbrella days" - a jackass came up with that idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Ever cause for a good moan about the state of Pattaya infrastructure and works, but once through the chaos, mismanagement and inconvenience the finished product is superior to what was, and well worth the wait.

    Aside from several motorways for more efficient travel to and from, main city projects in my time include: widening Thappraya road from Pattaya to Jomtien. Anyone remember what it was like navigating one lane each way, esp in rain or through an accident? If they left it as it was, Jomtien would be dead by now.

    The Sukhumvit subway, hell for months but it works, sends through traffic 1.5km ff, and has eased congestion considerably.

    Pattaya beach widening and promenade, much better than before, though they're still tinkering which is what they do best.

    Jomtien promenade, cleaner, more attractive and safer than before.

    Jomtien 2nd Road through wasteland, brilliant, breathed life and commerce to a chunk of Pattaya where there was none before.

    Other important stuff like sea quality, pollution, broken and unsafe roads, flooding, blackouts, sewage and more don't count; maybe there's not enough scope for graft to keep their interest, so we just have to live with it.
    Good post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Well, I've been visiting Pattaya for seashore vacations 25+ years and thoroughly enjoy it. Driving there is another story.

    I/we would lodge in a good hotel across the street from the beach in Jomtien. Walk across the street, plop my ass in lounge chair under an umbrella and enjoy the day while vendors sold me anything I needed. A grand way to kill a week. Many enjoyable days spent there over the years.

    The beach vacations will continue - the vendors and vacationer support that is established will remain and will adapt to whatever the "New Normal" will wind up becoming.

    And, I, my family and my friends, will return and enjoy our seaside vacations.


    The only real gripe I have is the damn "no beach chair and umbrella days" - a jackass came up with that idea.
    Yeah Pattaya has the most lively beach in the whole country. In Phuket , they have all kinds of different rules that takes away from it

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    What Pattaya city needs to do, is build a dock structure over those fucking runoff drains. So the utter numpties can't see it. Why they haven't thought of this is beyond me.

    I should try and get ahold of water works. Maybe Loytoy should pass on this recommendation.

    Loytoy. Why don't they build a dock structure over those drains ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    This isn't a dog and pony show.

    I am planning a trip back to Pattaya sometime in the future and Ill want to swim in the beach with my family.
    Your 'family'? Your wife you mean?
    Or have you propogated?

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    Dub post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Your 'family'? Your wife you mean?
    Or have you propogated?

    his wife’s brothers

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    I have some history with the local Nongprue council including Pattaya and Chon Buri district offices about the management of waste and storm water.

    I have submitted diagrams, plans and even built scaled down models of existing council built drainage systems proving they will fail even when they are in the process of installing the systems.

    I have proved that the storm water drains are illegally connected to sewerage lines and the water is terribly polluted.

    I have warned the council that walls will come down and property will be damaged well before it happened and history proves what I warned them about happened.

    Myself, including a number of other local concerned residents, both farang and Thai, have given up trying to deal with people who either will not listen or don't have the power to make decisions or take action.

    Sad really as many families suffer terribly when there is substantial rain as such disasters could easily have been avoided.

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    Dumping local sewage just adds to the pollution in the upper gulf.
    Look at all the sewer pipes dumping into the water just north of Pattaya beach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I have some history with the local Nongprue council including Pattaya and Chon Buri district offices about the management of waste and storm water.

    I have submitted diagrams, plans and even built scaled down models of existing council built drainage systems proving they will fail even when they are in the process of installing the systems.

    I have proved that the storm water drains are illegally connected to sewerage lines and the water is terribly polluted.

    I have warned the council that walls will come down and property will be damaged well before it happened and history proves what I warned them about happened.

    Myself, including a number of other local concerned residents, both farang and Thai, have given up trying to deal with people who either will not listen or don't have the power to make decisions or take action.

    Sad really as many families suffer terribly when there is substantial rain as such disasters could easily have been avoided.
    Certainly being local, you know where some bodies are buried. I just wonder how much better they can really make it. Arent you and the industrial estates down wind from Pattaya beach ? or does water from there end up in Pattaya ?

    Anyway the city of Pattaya could start by covering up the big drains that stick out like a hard-on in a Speedo.

    Here's my plan. Build something around it, then clad it. So the dopey public isnt staring at the runoff drains going into the water.


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    Very Thai solution, hide the problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Certainly being local, you know where some bodies are buried. I just wonder how much better they can really make it. Arent you and the industrial estates down wind from Pattaya beach ? or does water from there end up in Pattaya ?

    Anyway the city of Pattaya could start by covering up the big drains that stick out like a hard-on in a Speedo.

    Here's my plan. Build something around it, then clad it. So the dopey public isnt staring at the runoff drains going into the water.

    Such a suggestion is worthy of a place for you, in the Thai cabinet as an advisor, or perhaps as a consultant to a corrupt construction company.
    Absolute fucking genius Socal.

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    ^ it's probably already being planned. Perception is everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    ^ it's probably already being planned. Perception is everything.
    You fucking dummy. You travel to Asia in order to avoid the reality of home grown solutions because those solutions should have to be funded.
    Your selfishness aligns nicely with the corrupt morons running the dump. As an irresponsible sex tourist, your conscience is clear. Idiot.

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