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    No self respecting Muslim would step in a pup full of old gammons. These bacon obsessed Little England types will lap it up. I for one will be avoiding the group, I'd rather enjoy my pint without jingoism and the Tommeh Ten Names brigade mouthing off about how brown people are to blame for their shit lives.

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    ^^The man's a buffoon, tax, and you know it.

    Probably fed with a catapult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    I'm sure you may find the NZ export of meat is not for Muslims.
    Don't be so sure. From what I can see most supermarkets here in KSA sell NZ beef.

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    Of course a pub boasting that it isn't halal is not aiming for muslim patrons.

    Duh!
    well it was aiming for muslim patrons before.

    announcing that it is "now halal free" implies that previous to the announcement it was in fact halal, and why was it halal if not to attract muslim patrons. there are plenty of less than orthodox muslims who enjoy a drink but still insist of halal meat even if non halal meat is served in the same establishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    You're arguing with an ex NZMAF Meat Inspector. Every single sheep killed is halal. You're arguing with a person from NZ which is a country of 4.5 million people and 40 million sheep. I spent years in the export meat works and I know what I'm saying is true. They trialled live sheep exports from Australia and NZ, but it didn't last long because the animal welfare crowd got involved.
    The live export of sheep from Australia has been going on for the last 60 years and NZ has been trying to re-introduce live export as it makes more money per head.

    You mean find that NZ meat is Halal though its not Tayyib which is the true clean process of Halal,which is practised by many Muslims.

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    Australia still exports live sheep to the middle east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Australia still exports live sheep to the middle east.
    OK, I'll take your word on that. I recall reading about a kerfuffle from animal rights activists. NZ caved, I assumed Oz did too.
    Nonetheless, all sheep slaughtered in NZ (give or take a few small provincial abbatoirs) are halal. They go to that trouble for a reason, Chico, and the main reason is exports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    The Retox Group have put signs up saying their bars are now Halal free. My suspicion is that this is less to do with any animal welfare issues and more a gimmick to pander to the Muslim hating tattooed English chavs and Chang vest wearing Cheap Charlie’s who make up their main customer base.
    I cant understand why a successful group like Retox would leave themselves open to accusations to racism and bigotry like this.
    and one question is: why would you care ? does anyone normal notice such things ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    OK, I'll take your word on that. I recall reading about a kerfuffle from animal rights activists. NZ caved, I assumed Oz did too.
    Nonetheless, all sheep slaughtered in NZ (give or take a few small provincial abbatoirs) are halal. They go to that trouble for a reason, Chico, and the main reason is exports.
    with as you say you where in the meat trade,You do understand Tayyib?

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Don't be so sure. From what I can see most supermarkets here in KSA sell NZ beef.
    you may find the live export of meat is much preferred due to religious beliefs and practices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    with as you say you where in the meat trade,You do understand Tayyib?
    No, and it's an irrelevant question. I stated the fact that millions of halal sheep carcasses are exported from NZ and almost all sheep slaughtered in NZ are halal...for a reason.

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    Retox are particularly strong when it comes to marketing, drawing in customers when their food and service is no better then dozens of other similar establishments that they compete with.

    Look at the company banner name Retox which is intended to to be the reverse of Detox whereby one abstains from drinking alcohol and using chemicals and to clean their system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    you may find the live export of meat is much preferred due to religious beliefs and practices.
    That statement may have some validity, but your other claim that NZ meat exports are not for Muslims is, well, bologna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Read it, it means nothing. A sheep export slaughterhouse does not kill pigs on the same line. Regardless of halal requirements, NZ health requirements dictate this. Your article is ill-informed and is actually about the payment for "certification". All the sheep are halal and that is why the Middle East buys them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    but your other claim that NZ meat exports are not for Muslims is, well, utter rubbish.
    Rephrased that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Probably fed with a catapult.
    .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    . Rextox attracts a lot of English Hooligans who are very Anti Muslim. I very much doubt this move has been made in the interests of animal welfare
    I'm trying to give a fuck but all I can think is you know where they all are so great, go somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    The Retox Group have put signs up saying their bars are now Halal free. My suspicion is that this is less to do with any animal welfare issues and more a gimmick to pander to the Muslim hating tattooed English chavs and Chang vest wearing Cheap Charlie’s who make up their main customer base.
    I cant understand why a successful group like Retox would leave themselves open to accusations to racism and bigotry like this.
    isn't it ironic - throughout the centuries Scots were known as a fierce patriotic warrior people who kept the Romans & English at bay.

    fast forward to today and they're the biggest liberal, refugee/muslim arse licking SNP voting faggots on planet earth.

    What Scottish Gary is advocating is that animals should suffer lingering deaths so his Muslim brethren don't feel offended.

    Don't you have bigger fish to fry? The price of a bottle of beer on walking street is scandalous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter View Post
    What Scottish Gary is advocating is that animals should suffer lingering deaths so his Muslim brethren don't feel offended.
    I think Maanaam already mentioned it, but they're not the only religionists that cause lingering deaths in slaughtered animals.

    In the interests of equal time...Shechita

    Shechita is performed by a highly trained shochet. The procedure consists of a rapid and expert transverse incision with an instrument of surgical sharpness (a chalaf), which severs the major structures and vessels at the neck. This causes an instant drop in blood pressure in the brain and immediately results in the irreversible cessation of consciousness. Thus, shechita renders the animal insensible to pain, dispatches and exsanguinates in a swift action, and fulfils all the requirements of humaneness and compassion.

    There are some doubts about the underlined parts in the quote from chabad.org.

    When Ritual Slaughter Isnt Kosher: An Examination of Shechita and the Humane Methods of Slaughter Act
    https://www.animallaw.info/article/w...-slaughter-act

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    Sounds a bit better than what Death Row inmates get in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter View Post
    isn't it ironic - throughout the centuries Scots were known as a fierce patriotic warrior people who kept the Romans & English at bay.

    fast forward to today and they're the biggest liberal, refugee/muslim arse licking SNP voting faggots on planet earth.
    Last I heard 55% weren't.

    49% voted Snatzi 2015 and will drop even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    and one question is: why would you care ? does anyone normal notice such things ?
    I drink in there every Sunday in life and watch the football. I thought that some folk might be interested that a British owned pub chain operating in Pattaya would suddenly ban all Halal food products. I thought that some folk here might be interested in debating the reasoning behind his highly unusual decision.
    Then along comes a dullard like you who doesn't care yet still makes the time and effort to read the posts and make one of his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    I'm trying to give a fuck but all I can think is you know where they all are so great, go somewhere else.
    If you don't give a fuck then why bother posting you lumpen twat. Just scroll right past.
    Last edited by Scottish Gary; 05-09-2018 at 12:08 AM.

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    Does Shrewed punter who is about as shrewd as a dry roasted peanut not feel embarrassed post slavering shite like that?

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