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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    I saw those and they are buttass ugly. Functional yes. But that aside Toots I don't want to sell my Hilux. I have it set up exactly how I like it and use it to go offroading with a few Hilux groups.
    Man of your means, just buy one and use the bed and give the remaining vehicle to some local.

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    The pond on your ride looks like the perfect place to fish....

    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    Man of your means, just buy one and use the bed and give the remaining vehicle to some local.
    Twas what I was thinking...buy a used pickup, shitcan the bed, weld a piece of plate on the frame along with some channel for side rails, add a toolbox and winch just abaft the cab and I'm your uncle.

    Or even get a couple of wide pieces of deck plating (the ones with the cross hatching on them) for each side to roll the 4 wheeler up on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Twas what I was thinking...buy a used pickup, shitcan the bed,
    See the thing is, I do not want another vehicle at the place. Just more maintenance and upkeep, especially since it will sit most of the time. I was hoping to find a place to fab up a flatbed and get estimate and then compare that to the cost of buying a Toyota Champ, taking the bed and selling the Cab chassis. Buy the cheapest model available since I won't keep it. Might be cheaper. Still gathering info and options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    ^

    As for trailers, I was talking to someone about this just yesterday. One day I would like a small boat and the easiest way is to have a small trailer rather than pay exorbitant marina fees. I was told that in Thailand you bizarrely need a commercial license to row a trailer, yet of course the vast majority of 'aliens' in this damn country are denied a commercial license because that would imply that they are working. It's great, isn't it.
    In Australia you cannot turn your motorcycle lights off.

    And as far as a trailer goes, A mate in Bangkok just imported a Jeski trailer from Australia, under certain conditions there is no import duty, and is fitting a towbar to his raptor to drag the trailer around.
    he used to drag his old trailer from Bangkok to Hua Hin regularly and never had any trouble with the Police, he also has no special endorsement on his license.

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    Thanks Moose. On a group ATV ride a few guys were trailering their ATVs. I had mine in the Bed. We all had to pull over and wait as the roadstop BIB were looking to exploit some baht from guys with trailers. So it's definitely a crap shoot.

    I will likely go with a trailer and deal with the road stops versus buying a specific type hauler.

    Right now my ATV fits in the bed no issues but having the bed sides makes it a tight fit with the wheel well inside the bed. A flat bed eliminates them which is nice.

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    Australia has some sort of reciprocal deal with Thailand.
    If the trailer is made in OZ, you do not pay import tax.
    Australia has very good quality control of that sort of thing and a very good trailer is reasonably priced there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose65 View Post
    Australia has some sort of reciprocal deal with Thailand.
    If the trailer is made in OZ, you do not pay import tax.
    Australia has very good quality control of that sort of thing and a very good trailer is reasonably priced there.
    I would be very careful importing a trailer as an individual, not saying it cannot be done, but it will not be worth the hassle.

    I imported trailers from the US that had vacuum systems built into them. The amount of paperwork and time it took to get them registered was not worth it. We had to get engineering certificates to prove that they were designed correctly, the trailer was too wide so we had to narrow them by about 50 mm, the rear and side lights did not meet Thai spec, it took well over a year before we could legally get them on the road.

    If it was me, I would buy a new registered trailer here in Thailand and be done with it.

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    It is also a requirement in Thailand that if you change a vehicle from its original design e.g change the pickup tray, a registered engineer has to sign off on the design. If they want to be especially difficult, they can request drawings and photographs. If you buy a bed/tray locally the supplier may be able to do this. It's not too difficult, but is another hassle and depends very much on who is manning the desk at the LTD on any particular day. A financial consideration can sometimes clear the way.

    Barty's advice (above) can always be believed. His experience in such matters is probably unequalled on this board.
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    All understood on new tax and reg to convert to flatbed. My wife is on top of all that stuff.

    Appreciate the input.

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    At the risk of being too simplistic, couldn't you knock up some ramps for the truck bed out of Ali? even a small winch at the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose65 View Post
    And as far as a trailer goes, A mate in Bangkok just imported a Jeski trailer from Australia, under certain conditions there is no import duty, and is fitting a towbar to his raptor to drag the trailer around.
    he used to drag his old trailer from Bangkok to Hua Hin regularly and never had any trouble with the Police, he also has no special endorsement on his license.
    Went on a few rides with Tony, known on forums as BKK Tony, he ended up converting an old van to carry his motorbikes inside, instead of setting up a trailer.

    A serious issue in the cities and towns here is some fuckknuckle on a scooter not realizing the situation and darting in behind you without even seeing the fully loaded trailer you're pulling. Or if noticing it, in the final seconds before his reincarnation, not being able to understand how a trailer works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    At the risk of being too simplistic, couldn't you knock up some ramps for the truck bed out of Ali? even a small winch at the back.


    Well I have ramps and use them for now. The issue is the bed wheel well width and the wheel base on the ATV do not align. The tires hit but not enough to ride up on them but enough to wedge the tires in-between them which is a PITA. Additionally the bed is about a foot short. Too bad they do not offer a long bed 4 dr optioned truck here like they do in the states with the Tacoma.

    With a flat bed the bed wheel wells are eliminated adding about 6"inches on each side. Plus with a flat bed I can have a foot or so added and all done. Then update the govt here on the mod and done. Life is very simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    A serious issue in the cities and towns here is some fuckknuckle on a scooter not realizing the situation and darting in behind you without even seeing the fully loaded trailer you're pulling.
    Yep, exactly my concern. That or someone rear ending me not paying attention to the trailer lights. In the states a trailer is perfect but folks there are well accustomed to them. Here they are a foreign thing hanging off the back of a vehicle.

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    Close call and a lesson learned.... Hopefully

    My wife and I went out to lunch in the city and about 20 minutes in we got a frantic call that our car park area is on fire. My FIl saw it and was hosing it off and then my niece went over ( after my FIL called her) and they got it out. We grabbed up our lunch and blazed home.

    Having been a volunteer fireman for Fresno County FD for 4 years, I was telling my wife on the way back the key is to understand the ignition point and the elements. As expected that went over her head.

    So we get to the house and the small fire was out and the damage was very minimal, mostly as my FIL smelled it and called my niece. After I looked at the area and what had been moved it was clear the ignition point was the 1/4 full tile sealer my wife wanted to keep and it was put on the back side near a bunch of ground coconut husks in bags. While as a liquid, its not flammable but what some forget is the vapor can and will become combustible exposed to heat in a tightly sealed container and it is hot and sunny today.

    While this was a human error and a lack of material understanding, This is why some may say on here I keep my place too clean etc but let me tell you, this is the first house fire I have had in my entire life. I do not keep any 1/4 full containers of any solvent, cleaner etc that will likely sit for an extended period of time, especially flammables but here in Thailand its all about saving every baht.

    I sat with my wife and FIL and said, we dodge a bullet. This could have been a big issue. My wife agreed and understands. I told her you can save 10 bht but look at the risks, especially around here where it gets incredible hot even in the shade.

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    Yikes, that is a close call.

    Any pics our video, otherwise it didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    Thailand its all about saving every baht.
    A wise man once said.."Penny wise and Pound foolish".

    Lucky the FiL noticed. Suggest installing a couple wifi heat and smoke detectors. Only about 1,000 baht each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Yikes, that is a close call.

    Any pics our video, otherwise it didn't happen.
    Not many pics. After clean up and torched wall.








    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Lucky the FiL noticed. Suggest installing a couple wifi heat and smoke detectors. Only about 1,000 baht each.
    Yeah, he said he smelled something burning and saw the smoke. Thankfully my niece lives and works about 5 minutes away and came right over and hosed it out.

    Unfortunately the area is not a location to put a fire or smoke detector ( we have them in our house though). It was along the back side/corner of our car park. Honestly Norts its a simple mistake to make when you do not know the materials. I saw many a fire in Fresno where it started by the hot water heater or the house furnace as people stored house cleaner solvents or gas cans near them not considering the pilot light as an ignition source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    Honestly Norts its a simple mistake to make when you do not know the materials
    Sure is and I myself who knows better have done simular. Off to the store room to check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Sure is and I myself who knows better have done simular.
    Me too. Ever open a half full container of Gasoline after its been hot? Never thought about the oxygen and potential reaction and having it ignite. I will tell you, training at the FD you learn and see a lot of shit you never think of. More interesting is the people at home who store non compatible materials near each other never thinking about it or transferring a material from its original container to a container that it will eat or react with?

    Anyway today was just a a lesson to remind me to check on stuff around here.

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    Pick up beds are simple bolt ons. Another option if you aren't too worried re the styling, take the bed off cut it and let in a band and reseat the mounts, same with the gate.. You'll be c7 inches wider at the back but a professional job and respray should do it. The liner would be the biggest issue I'd imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    Pick up beds are simple bolt ons. Another option if you aren't too worried re the styling, take the bed off cut it and let in a band and reseat the mounts, same with the gate.. You'll be c7 inches wider at the back but a professional job and respray should do it. The liner would be the biggest issue I'd imagine.
    Yeah. Beds and cabs are both bolt on and come off with relative ease. If I was back in states with a couple friends and some beer at my buddies shop we could knock something out in a weekend. Here, not really possible. Need a good plasma cutter and metal Fab tools.

    I am still searching around. For now I drive it up in the bed and it works so I do have time to look at options.

    I was looking at the bed and wheel wheels and with my truck already lifted 3", I could almost cut the bed wheel wells flat and not have my tires ever hit. That could work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    Need a good plasma cutter and metal Fab tools.

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    can it be true? Stumpy doesn’t have a full set of chainsaws?



    I can hear taxi guffawing or maybe choking from here!

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    What are those little red tags for, the ones hanging off the hooks on that 4 wheeled lawnmower thingy you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    What are those little red tags for, the ones hanging off the hooks on that 4 wheeled lawnmower thingy you have?
    Since you asked so nice and you do not know, that red strap hanging off the winch hook is so you can set the winch in free spool and pull the cable or synthetic line out verses grabbing the hook which has a clip that can pinch your hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    can it be true? Stumpy doesn’t have a full set of chainsaws?
    Damn. I need a Plasma Chainsaw.

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