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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    For 20 Baht you'll get a cup of pellets to feed the fish and a shot of the gardener's Ya Dong.
    Feck that.

    I'm thinking an IPA with a single malt shot to follow once the suns sets. Perhaps a fishing rod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    I'm thinking an IPA with a single malt shot to follow once the suns sets. Perhaps a fishing rod.
    I agree KW. It could be a catch and release program just to show Mendy how to catch fish in his own pond....

    I think the Jetty or pier should have a fridge on the shore right at the entrance so beer is basically within arms reach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    I agree KW. It could be a catch and release program just to show Mendy how to catch fish in his own pond....

    I think the Jetty or pier should have a fridge on the shore right at the entrance so beer is basically within arms reach.
    Good point. Mendip already has a sala there. Maybe you can share with him the plans for your pool bar. He'll need a project between finishing the pier and starting work in November.


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    ^ I'm hoping to bring the work forward to September, once the daughter has finished her summer hols... it could get hectic!


    Anyway... lots of progress today.

    Although I hate to admit it, the gardener is a better and faster welder than me... I'm a geologist FFS... so I awarded him the welding contract while I got on with Chaindriting the wood. It pisses me off slightly that he gets the glamorous work while I do the shite... but it's for the greater good of the project.

    This Chaindrite is much darker than I anticipated but it's essential for protection against termites and the like, so so be it.



    The circular saw hasn't turned up from Lazada yet, so I decided to put on two coats before cutting the planks to length and I'll do a third coat once they're cut.



    Once all the wood had received it's first coat I went to check on the gardener's progress.



    He was going great guns although there was a lot of grinding going on to even up the edges. I think he wished I'd got the circular saw before cutting all the metal to length with an angle grinder.



    I do actually have a proper photogenic welding mask but the gardener prefers to use his 50 Baht specs from the local barbers. I've admonished him many times over this but you can only lead a horse to water, as they say. Much as I like welding, I don't miss the headaches and gritty eyes I always end up with.



    The hoopoe's nest box is in the gardener's garage and one of the hoopoe chicks kept it's beady eyes on the gardener. The parents were still feeding their young despite all the disruption which was nice to see... although there's been no sign of the magpie robin fledgling I popped into the nest box a couple of days ago. I'll have to check on it tomorrow but I fear the worst.



    I went back to my station and applied the second coat of Chaindrite to the wood and left it all out to dry... this was a rush as school pick-up was 2pm today because the teachers had yet another training day. My daughter's school must have the most highly trained teachers in the whole of SE Asia I reckon. How about thinking of the working parents for a change?



    So, 1:15pm and pushed for time...I checked on the gardener.... and he'd just finished!



    A great job! But also credit to the measurer and cutter of the constituent metal parts... it's all about the preparation.

    Pythagoras was spot on as well, even after all these years.



    Tomorrow I'll apply more primer around the welds and small end-pieces will be welded on to the open ends to keep out any moisture. And now I have to start thinking whether I'll leave the frame 'battle ship grey primer colour' or paint it. But what colour? Blue would match a lot of the house outside but would that look OK by the pond? These are questions I hadn't considered before.

    But of course, the elephant in the room... this thing weights a bladdy ton and there's not a hope in hell it will fit through the gate...



    Tommy clocked it immediately.



    But that is a problem for tomorrow. I have more immediate issues to take care of.

    After I'd got back from the school pick-up with my lovely young daughter, the wife said to me, and I quote, 'you're not expecting to get into bed tonight with those feet are you'?

    I looked down and had to concede she had a point.



    OK, so it was a rushed shower before I left for school but maybe I hadn't given my feet the attention they needed. With advancing years I find the feet the hardest part of the showering ritual and I'd completely missed that they were liberally spattered with Chaindrite.

    Closer inspection revealed an underling spatter of grey primer... and I did that a week ago.

    Have I really slipped that far after four months in Isaan?



    But bollocks to it... I'm too tired now.

    Anyway, this is the status at end of play... day 16ish?



    If I get a decent sleep tonight the jetty may get moved from the garage to check against the leg and plinth L-pieces for dimensions and the end pieces should be welded on. If the circular saw turns up tomorrow then major progress could be had... but already the wife is threatening a trip to Makro... so the day could be lost.

    We shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    there's not a hope in hell it will fit through the gate...
    Easy peasy. On its side and turn it through 90 degrees as you pass the right angle between the horizontal and the upright.
    It will still be heavy as fook. Have you got a trolley?
    Please make sure your daughter is there to video the whole process. That could brighten my day.


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    ^ Easy peasy hey... ya know, instead of considering the jetty transport to the pond as your 'entertainment', you could become part of the solution.

    Jump in your car and you could be here five hours later... or maybe the bright lights of the Korat metropolis are too daunting?


    Anyway, after my predicted trip to Makro there was little progress today. How is it when I go to Makro alone, I think of it, get in the car and 10 minutes later I'm there. When joined by my darling wife a trip to Makro becomes an 'outing', requiring showers, shirts without holes in and shoes that aren't spattered in paint. Furthermore, my trips work out at 5000 Baht max, today cost me almost 3 times that... cleaning products... toiletries... you name it.

    But I did get a rack of lamb chops!

    So... limited jetty progress today. But several small jobs were cleared... they all have to be done.

    There were six open ends to the metal frame that I wanted closed off. I think there's two choices... either leave the ends completely open so that any water ingress dries fast with a through-draught, or close off completely. Open ends on this jetty would have looked 'unfinished' I reckon... and if there are any low points where water collects, corrosion will soon follow. I discussed this with Ootai who recommended closing off the ends. As I mentioned before, he may be an Aussie and has a very strange choice of footwear, but he seems to talk some sense.



    Again, the gardener got the good jobs while I was traipsing around the cleaning products and toiletries aisles at Makro, but he did a great job!



    All welds were covered by primer, and when dry I applied a third coat of primer across the entire structure.



    This frame is strong... I've stood on it and tried to waggle from side to side and there's very little movement. No need for any X-bracing across the end I feel.



    This is now all ready for a couple of coats of black enamel paint that I found in the workshop. I think black will look pretty cool and I'll do all the painting in the gardener's garage, and then just patch up around the final welds to the L-pieces on the offshore legs and onshore concrete plinth, once the damn thing is installed.

    Oh... and while writing today's round-up... the big news of the day. My circular saw from Lazada finally arrived. It came with a free pair of gloves and a free pair of safety goggles, but sadly no wood disc... only three metal discs. But anyway, a quick trip to Do Home tomorrow and all the wood can be cut. But is there ever a 'quick trip' to Do Home for a non-Thai speaker. Again, the gardener will get the fun task while I'm probably cleaning out the chickens.

    All things going well, the jetty will be ready to transport to the pond on Saturday for dimensional control with the offshore legs and plinth.... so Shutree will get his wish and my daughter will be available to document the move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    There were six open ends to the metal frame that I wanted closed off.
    Cut all ends 45 next time, then there wont be any open ends after welding.

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    ^ Next time!

    But yeah, just don't know why that's never occurred to me before. Obvious when you think about it, and easy with my new circular saw.

    Thanks Lom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    and easy with my new circular saw.
    if it arrived on time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    It came with a free pair of gloves and a free pair of safety goggles, but sadly no wood disc... only three metal discs.
    It probably only came with metal blades because Bosch most likely didn't intend for the saw to be used with a wood blade. You can use it as a wood cutting saw, but it is not ideal. I am not even sure that you will be able to get a blade that will fit.

    For a little more than the cost of decent blade for the chop saw, you could just buy a 7” circular saw. Bosch, Makita and others make a decent 7” circular saw for about 1,500 – 2,000 Baht. Macktec make one for somewhere around 1,000 Baht.

    However, if you want to spend just a little more money, I would suggest getting a reciprocating saw. A cheap 220 volt one is under 2,000 Baht. With the right selection of blades you will be able to cut almost anything. They are also safer than most other types of saws, create a lot less dust and are somewhat quieter.
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    Well, this is a bit disturbing Barty... I think this comes under the category, 'I wish you'd said that a week ago'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barty View Post
    However, if you want to spend just a little more money, I would suggest getting a reciprocating saw. A cheap 220 volt one is under 2,000 Baht. With the right selection of blades you will be able to cut almost anything. They are also safer than most other types of saws, create a lot less dust and are somewhat quieter.
    A Reciprocating saw is a nice tool to have but won't cut square cuts because it's freehand use. I have one and it's great for cutting up stuff quickly to dispose of it or cut off things others saws can't get to. In the states we call them Sawzall.

    On a side note Mendy, On my manufactured wood decking I used the thin blade to cut the decking planks. Smoked a little but did the job. Just cut slow.

    I have a 7" circular saw for wood but have only used it a few times as I got lazy and just use the big chop saw for everything. It's not what it's intended for but....well.

    Happy Friday

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    See Mendy, this is why you need a shop. Store all the tools you buy and need. A project goes so much nicer with the right tools.

    I would love a nice band saw. I see them and have to walk away or I will buy one. Global house had a nice one on sale.

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    Mendip, you said in your thread about painting the jetty blue. I had visions of The Tower Bridge Blue...But, black nothing distictive about Prison Bar Black. Make your jetty stand out like other famous structures perhaps Golden Gate Bridge Orange, Buckingham Palace Gold or Britannia Blue. After all one has to appear dignified when lobbing Hand Grenades off the jetty.

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    One could be much more creative than that if going with a 'London Bridge' theme.

    Fake suicide vests and narwhal tusks would come into play.

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    A proper Brit would paint in red, white and blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    A proper Brit would paint in red, white and blue.
    Nah, British Racing Green.


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    There were many choices of colour to paint the jetty, but in the end black won simply because I found a near full tin of enamel black paint in the workshop. This has been used for all of our metal fences. My loyalties could get confused by painting it red, white and blue in Thailand and no way was I gonna try explaining 'British racing green' to the 'assistants' at Do Home.

    First thing this morning we turned the frame upside down and I applied two coats of black paint to the underside over a couple of hours, the plan being to turn it correct way up to later apply two coats of paint across the entire structure over the day.



    Meanwhile the gardener braved Do Home and came back with the mother load... couldn't get a 14 inch wood blade but 12 inches should get the job done, as they say.



    And it was as easy as that. When I think about the number of planks of wood I've hand-sawn through, or the number of metal beams I've cut with a grinder over the past 15 years when developing the house and garden, it really pisses me off. This was so easy.



    Like a shovel through the proverbial shit... I couldn't actually feel the wood.



    It has to be said that I was wearing flip-flops as well... should know better of course.



    The trouble with using a 12 inch wood blade was that I'd had to change the clamp position that had been factory set up for a 14 inch blade. This thing cuts through the wood so quickly that we were half way though when I realised the clamp wasn't set exactly 90 degrees to the length of planks. After 3 minutes we had a pile of cut planks, with slightly off ends.



    I was a bit annoyed, but thought, 'fuk it, it's only a garden jetty... it'll be alright'...

    ... and commenced with first Chaindriting the freshly cut ends and then applying the third coat of Chaindrite to all the cut planks.



    But of course, all the while getting more and more pissed off with myself. Once you know the ends aren't square, soon that's all you can see...

    I could've done this with an angle grinder.



    Eventually I said 'bollocks', I'm gonna have to cut the bad ends again. That is a job for tomorrow... disappointing but not the end of the world to be honest. To have crooked ends to the planks would forever piss me off... they need to be square and that's just the way it is. I'll use this operation to make all planks exactly the same length as they differ slightly due to the variation in the original 5 metre lengths. And I still have enough Chainrite to treat all the new ends.

    I'll put this down to experience... it could have been much worse.

    By lunchtime the black paint on the base of the frame was still tacky so I couldn't flip it over and get the first coat on the rest of the structure, so this was the status at the end of day... 16...?



    And the Chaindrited wood planks drying out. This gives an idea of how the floor of the jetty will eventually look.



    Tomorrow... in between helping the daughter with her science presentation and swimming 84 lengths with her, my aim is to apply two coats of black enamel paint to the frame and also to even up all the crooked ends of the wood and re-Chaindrite them.

    The topside lift onto the offshore legs is set for Sunday morning,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    It has to be said that I was wearing flip-flops as well... should know better of course.
    What could go wrong? Just ask loy toy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    'fuk it, it's only a garden jetty... it'll be alright'...
    But, you're garden jetty! If you use that reasoning you may as well as have paid somchai 100baht a day to build one...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    And it was as easy as that. When I think about the number of planks of wood I've hand-sawn through, or the number of metal beams I've cut with a grinder over the past 15 years when developing the house and garden, it really pisses me off. This was so easy.
    Yup, all about having and using the right tools!


    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    o have crooked ends to the planks would forever piss me off... they need to be square and that's just the way it is.
    Indeed they would! Best off to do it now, than wait 2 weeks or 2 months or when ever you get feed up enough to fix them!


    Mendy, it's really beginning to take shape!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Yup, all about having and using the right tools!
    Amen to that. My wife says why do you buy tools you do not use all the time, I said because when you have a job, the right tool makes it easy and it turns out right. You can never have enough tools as I see it.

    Point in case, few weeks ago I uprooted an old apple tree. It died. It was at the furtherest corner of the property. The stump was huge and heavy. I pulled the truck out, zipped out the winch line, Attached a strap and winched it across the yard and had a local guy come and take away for free as he wanted the wood. Took 15 minutes tops.

    Nice Job Mendy. Looking forward to the first cast from the pier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Point in case, few weeks ago I uprooted an old apple tree. It died. It was at the furtherest corner of the property. The stump was huge and heavy. I pulled the truck out, zipped out the winch line, Attached a strap and winched it across the yard and had a local guy come and take away for free as he wanted the wood. Took 15 minutes tops.
    Mind you, not much opportunity to post on the daily moan thread over that.

    You should have used a grinder. (Loy Toy does battle with a modified Angle grinder and loses.)
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    Not seeing gloves and assume all other PPE including eye protection wasn't even thought of. STOP card submitted and you can expect a personal visit from HSE department with a warning letter

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    I remember the LT whack job. Someone else did a big hack body job with grinder. Forgot who. I don't know how people can use power tools without gloves, safety glasses and shoes or boots. Man I appreciate having all my limbs and eyesight.

    But whatever works.

    Hey Mendy. On that Chop Saw you will appreciate wearing safety glasses if one of the wheels let's go. I have had one go and shit flies everywhere. Same with shoes when welding, burning slag goes deep through skin quick.. Think of your daughter. Just saying.

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